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Title: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: David on January 10, 2004, 07:50:45 PM
Well time for another peak into the SMF admin center.  I can feel the excitment all of you are having right now.  ;)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Tom on January 10, 2004, 08:05:43 PM
AEWSOME!!  :D

Thanks!
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: dennis on January 10, 2004, 08:12:23 PM
That is really nice!!  Can't wait to see it soon.

I wonder if it still uses pop-ups.  I don't really like pop-ups, they can be a drag. 

As of now, on my beta -3.1415 test site, there seem to be some kind of conflict with javascripts in my mod; pop-ups in Permissions screen do not work.

I would love to see we don't use pop-ups

-Dennis
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on January 10, 2004, 08:23:20 PM
The conflict, as I thought I warned you, is due to errors in your javascript in places.  Try turning on script error notification in your browser, and then navigating to the page that has the problems.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Anguz on January 10, 2004, 11:08:27 PM
that's really neat, thx for the preview, David... and congratulations to all the developers! :D
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: sneedo on January 10, 2004, 11:19:36 PM
alright now lets release this masterpiece :D
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: austinderrick2 on January 11, 2004, 12:59:35 AM
Looking good. :D

How'd you get that smudge effect on the website as shown in the first SS? I wanna use that on my site too... :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: morph on January 11, 2004, 01:05:26 AM
Quote from: austinderrick2 on January 11, 2004, 12:59:35 AM
Looking good. :D

How'd you get that smudge effect on the website as shown in the first SS? I wanna use that on my site too... :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Photoshop


And its looking GREAT! Good job so far Devs!
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: David on January 11, 2004, 02:56:32 AM
Quote from: $morph on January 11, 2004, 01:05:26 AM
Quote from: austinderrick2 on January 11, 2004, 12:59:35 AM
Looking good. :D

How'd you get that smudge effect on the website as shown in the first SS? I wanna use that on my site too... :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Photoshop
Actually Macromedia Fireworks. ;)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Cadish on January 11, 2004, 03:00:40 AM
What happens when you say that the admins cannot maintain the forum anymore?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: David on January 11, 2004, 03:11:19 AM
Quote from: Cadish on January 11, 2004, 03:00:40 AM
What happens when you say that the admins cannot maintain the forum anymore?
You can't modify the permissions of the administrator membergroup.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: klumy on January 11, 2004, 04:14:17 AM
WOW !!
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: writeto on January 11, 2004, 04:32:24 AM
Beautiful work. Better be careful or people will begin to expect it.

Andrew
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Owdy on January 11, 2004, 04:51:43 AM
Quote from: dennis on January 10, 2004, 08:12:23 PM
That is really nice!!  Can't wait to see it soon.

I wonder if it still uses pop-ups.  I don't really like pop-ups, they can be a drag. 

As of now, on my beta -3.1415 test site, there seem to be some kind of conflict with javascripts in my mod; pop-ups in Permissions screen do not work.

I would love to see we don't use pop-ups

-Dennis

Pup-ups? Where?  :o Permissions area?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: morpheus2008 on January 11, 2004, 06:51:27 AM
What version will have this permissions pop up and how is it accessed

tia
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: olger901 on January 11, 2004, 08:22:54 AM
w00t Wicked Sick !!!  8)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: austinderrick2 on January 11, 2004, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: David on January 11, 2004, 02:56:32 AM
Quote from: $morph on January 11, 2004, 01:05:26 AM
Quote from: austinderrick2 on January 11, 2004, 12:59:35 AM
Looking good. :D

How'd you get that smudge effect on the website as shown in the first SS? I wanna use that on my site too... :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Photoshop
Actually Macromedia Fireworks. ;)


Well yah, I knew it was a photo editor.... (You guys don't laugh easy do you :S)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: dennis on January 11, 2004, 09:51:50 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on January 10, 2004, 08:23:20 PM
The conflict, as I thought I warned you, is due to errors in your javascript in places.  Try turning on script error notification in your browser, and then navigating to the page that has the problems.

-[Unknown]

Hi Unknown,

Just to let you know that I have solved the conflict problem in my site.  It is cool now.  :D

-Dennis
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: dennis on January 11, 2004, 09:58:48 AM
Quote from: ­Owdy on January 11, 2004, 04:51:43 AM
Quote from: dennis on January 10, 2004, 08:12:23 PM
That is really nice!!  Can't wait to see it soon.

I wonder if it still uses pop-ups.  I don't really like pop-ups, they can be a drag. 

As of now, on my beta -3.1415 test site, there seem to be some kind of conflict with javascripts in my mod; pop-ups in Permissions screen do not work.

I would love to see we don't use pop-ups

-Dennis

Pup-ups? Where?  :o Permissions area?

Yes, in "Edits Groups and Permissions", and click on one of those many "advanced" links.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: nil on January 14, 2004, 07:36:34 PM
Will this be in the next beta?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Alexandre P. on January 14, 2004, 08:57:14 PM
(No more beta please, a final version also availible for us, poor non-Charter Members :P )
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on January 14, 2004, 09:01:19 PM
Okay, can do.  It'll just be about 4 or 5 months.... don't worry, I'll remember not to release any betas in the mean time.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: sneedo on January 14, 2004, 09:11:44 PM
4 or 5 months :o  that's no good ;)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: morph on January 14, 2004, 09:20:04 PM
Ahem..
/me gets on the soap box

It will be done, when its done.. Now let them man go at his own pace :). And if you can't take it, go to some remote place where you aren't around a computer for alittle while :P.

/me steps down
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: eFishie on January 14, 2004, 09:21:08 PM
But we need SMF! Our energy on all our forums is depleting!
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 14, 2004, 09:32:05 PM
Heh so was mine until I finally upgraded it to SMF :) http://www.thenewwwbl.com/forums/index.php
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: eFishie on January 14, 2004, 09:34:36 PM
Your forum was awesome, until I showed up. :P
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Pete on January 15, 2004, 12:17:42 AM
I was reading this topic and I'm the sort of person who can't resist making a point if it's only a minor one.

The big thing with all the permissions in isn't a popup, it's an expanded combo box. David has clicked open a combo box at the bottom of the screen, that has expanded upwards rather than downwards sue to limited space.

:)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: David on January 15, 2004, 12:19:53 AM
Pete, welcome and yes that is true.  The Advanced links however popup in a new window via javascript.  This reminded me as I thought of a proposal for a different method last night. :)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Tyris on January 15, 2004, 02:34:52 AM
note for those who didnt realise:
Feho asked for no more beta's... this is a bad thing as its basically been promised that the next BETA is a public BETA... so... yeah... bring on the next beta!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: nil on January 15, 2004, 01:35:38 PM
Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: morph on January 15, 2004, 02:27:28 PM
It was around. If I remember correctly it was somewhere in the Update thread.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Tyris on January 15, 2004, 09:32:14 PM
I've no idea where I heard it... but I've read every english public topic... so its here somewhere ;)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: SparkieGeek on January 15, 2004, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: Sexy Nil on January 15, 2004, 01:35:38 PM
Where did you hear that?

Quote from: Jeff Lewis on December 24, 2003, 07:24:26 PM
Just another update....we have released our final Charter Member only beta before we release a public beta version...we're getting much closer everyone :)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Tyris on January 15, 2004, 09:51:33 PM
yeah, that'd be the one :)
I think somewhere else as well tho... (or another person backing that up... myeh)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: nil on January 15, 2004, 10:00:43 PM
Just trying to make sure that privleged "Charter Member Only" info is kept from the hands of the greedy general public. :P
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: albatroz on February 06, 2004, 10:53:50 AM
The rights model is quite interesting, but I would suggest, don´t use fancy colors and fonts
as they are not so required on the admin part, they steal screen space.

Take a look at www.deluxeportal.com it is not as cool or fast as SMF is , but implements what
we are all talking about. BTW is "having a user in more than group" allowed in SMF?

If I pay the charter member fee and download my beta. Will it have the user groups/forums
rights feature included?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Grudge on February 06, 2004, 11:06:38 AM
The only reason the colours are used is to show what colour you want the member groups to appear in the who's online list. I don't know what the fancy font's are for.

the permissions features are included with all SMF installations so I don't really know what you mean by "Will it have the user groups/forums
rights feature included?"
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: albatroz on February 06, 2004, 11:26:01 AM
It seemed to me that the fonts of the text box that appear on the right listing the rights
are a bit BIG.

About the "features included" comment is because I didn´t know if the downloadable version is the last version
or a previous more stable version.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Grudge on February 06, 2004, 11:33:16 AM
Charter members only get stable betas. The current version is about a month/two newer than the one they have - purely as we try and give it out at stable points
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on February 06, 2004, 02:29:58 PM
However, it of course does have a permissions system and management, although it's management panel was written more hastily and is currently being redone.

Let's not get started on Deluxe Portal - we have a member here who had that and after switching from it to stop getting load averages in alarming ranges.

Yes, SMF has the ability to put a member into more than one member group.  There is the "primary group" and then "additional groups."

The difference in fonts is only a function of the Safari browser, (which is what David uses.) as far as I know.  I believe they are the same normally.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: orange on February 08, 2004, 05:23:30 PM
Will SMF include the ability to manually assign people to user levels, rather than having to do it based on number of posts?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on February 08, 2004, 05:31:32 PM
YaBB SE even allowed you to assign people to groups, what do you mean?

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: orange on February 08, 2004, 06:24:11 PM
Oh I know you could assign people to groups, but the user level (Newbie, Junior Member, etc) seems only to work with post count, as far as I can tell.
I'd like the ability to use the Newbie field for other purposes than how many posts someone has made.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Grudge on February 08, 2004, 06:51:13 PM
I think in this case you'd have to just create another membergroup called Newbie which isn't post based and has the same permissions as the other one. The reason is if you asign them to newbie they'll just get unasigned if they have more posts than that. Just have one newbie that is post based and one that is not and give them same name, permissions etc. Your members would be none the wiser
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on February 08, 2004, 07:06:30 PM
I think you'll find the membergroup/postgroup system in SMF more to your liking.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: orange on February 09, 2004, 04:19:28 AM
Excellent, sounds like SMF will deal with all my needs there then :)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: manuel71 on February 22, 2004, 02:24:28 PM
Can't wait to update my forum with SFM !!!!  8)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Dem0n on February 22, 2004, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: manuel71 on February 22, 2004, 02:24:28 PM
Can't wait to update my forum with SFM !!!!  8)

Why wait? Become charter ;)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Cccddd on February 23, 2004, 09:33:00 PM
Why become CM just for the software? Wait a couple weeks :p
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Webby on February 25, 2004, 04:11:53 AM
That's what I'll do.....wait.....  It looks great and the performance is.......WOW !
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Acf on February 25, 2004, 12:57:50 PM
any screenshots from the template system??
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Cccddd on February 25, 2004, 03:21:15 PM
uhhh... do you want screenshots of the code or the webpages you think exist for editing templates :p
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Owdy on February 25, 2004, 03:22:29 PM
Quote from: ­ ªcf on February 25, 2004, 12:57:50 PM
any screenshots from the template system??

Some ;)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/oskunoma/theme1.png

http://koti.mbnet.fi/oskunoma/theme2.png
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: pulpitfire on February 25, 2004, 03:28:12 PM
cool...thanks.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: pseudoelmo on February 27, 2004, 01:57:46 AM
Quote from: Cheschire on February 23, 2004, 09:33:00 PM
Why become CM just for the software? Wait a couple weeks :p

Because of the amazing support system.  They really are top notch.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: pseudoelmo on February 27, 2004, 01:58:43 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on February 06, 2004, 02:29:58 PM
Yes, SMF has the ability to put a member into more than one member group.  There is the "primary group" and then "additional groups."
Could you explain the difference between Primary groups and Additional groups?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on February 27, 2004, 02:09:09 AM
The primary group is the main, displayed group.  In my case, my primary group is "Lead Developer."  Any given member can only be in one primary group.

I, however, am also in other groups.  These include "Project Manager" (administrator) and "Team Member."  The groups are "additional groups" because they are in addition to my primary group.  They are not displayed, and are there only for permissions.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: pseudoelmo on February 27, 2004, 02:16:31 AM
Is it possible to display all of the groups?  I use things like "Reviewed Vendor" and "Site Owner" to let users know things about other users.  It would be beneficial to have a toggle option to enable listing all of the groups to which a member belongs.

I'm guessing that "Simple Machines Hero" is your title, correct?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on February 27, 2004, 03:10:45 AM
That is my post group.  I have no title.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: pseudoelmo on February 27, 2004, 04:08:07 AM
Ok, so a person can have up to four text lines in their display thing, then, correct?

Primary Group
Post Group
Custom Title
Picture Caption Text

Is there any way to get more?  I could deal with those four, I guess. 
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on February 27, 2004, 04:12:24 AM
Right now, I see having the additional groups listed as a mod.  I'm sure someone would be willing to write one (thought Cheschire was, in fact?) for you, but I don't think it's that useful for most of the user base.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: pseudoelmo on February 27, 2004, 04:20:17 AM
I don't want to bother anyone with something like that.  It's not a top priority.  I can just use "Reviewed Vendor" as the title and "Site Owner" or "Ambassador" as the Primary Groups...  I don't think any site owners will ever also be ambassadors, so it should be ok.  Also, being an RV shouldn't grant any more permissions (at least, I can't think of any right now), so it would be fitting as just a title and not a member group.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Cccddd on February 27, 2004, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on February 27, 2004, 04:12:24 AM
Right now, I see having the additional groups listed as a mod.  I'm sure someone would be willing to write one (thought Cheschire was, in fact?) for you, but I don't think it's that useful for most of the user base.

-[Unknown]

uhh... nope. wasn't. could add it to my todo list tho.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Anguz on February 27, 2004, 12:59:53 PM
can't you just add the extra titles you want for a person, as custom titles in their profile? showing all the groups by default for everyone, could be messy on the left of those messages, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Cccddd on February 27, 2004, 02:17:56 PM
which is why its a mod and not a default feature :p
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Anguz on February 27, 2004, 07:02:50 PM
Quote from: Cheschire on February 27, 2004, 02:17:56 PM
which is why its a mod and not a default feature :p

I know, what I mean is, why do a mod for it if custom titles could be enough (-_^)
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Cccddd on February 27, 2004, 08:16:48 PM
custom titles isnt automatic tho. this would automatically list all groups the person is a part of.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: zxbbs on February 28, 2004, 01:59:58 AM
very good !!
why not add reply below
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: pseudoelmo on February 29, 2004, 02:42:36 AM
Quote from: Anguz on February 27, 2004, 12:59:53 PM
can't you just add the extra titles you want for a person, as custom titles in their profile? showing all the groups by default for everyone, could be messy on the left of those messages, wouldn't it?

The problem arises when a person is rather dynamic in nature and qualifies for numerous things.  AFAIK, you can only have a single Custom Title.
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 01, 2004, 08:23:38 AM
I don't think it would be all that difficult to add more text fields as needed...
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: B on March 01, 2004, 01:06:02 PM
Why not allow more than one custom title (in the same text field) separated by commas or something?

B
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Tyris on March 02, 2004, 03:27:00 AM
hmmm... arent custom profile fields already activated...?
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: B on March 02, 2004, 11:32:17 AM
Dunno... *points to rank* ;D Can you have the custom profile fields show up in each post?

B
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on March 02, 2004, 10:54:18 PM
Quote from: B on March 02, 2004, 11:32:17 AM
Dunno... *points to rank* ;D Can you have the custom profile fields show up in each post?

B

Wouldn't they be rather useless otherwise?

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: Tyris on March 02, 2004, 10:56:21 PM
yeah, thats part of the template system...
what I meant to say in the last post is that Admins can now add profile fields for users to fill in and of course display them anywhere in the template...
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: B on March 03, 2004, 10:44:21 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 02, 2004, 10:54:18 PMWouldn't they be rather useless otherwise?

-[Unknown]

Not necessarily...you could have some things you want to show up in a profile view but not every time someone posts. Can't think of any right now, but I'm sure there are some... lol ::)

B
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: B on March 03, 2004, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: Tyris on March 02, 2004, 10:56:21 PM
yeah, thats part of the template system...
what I meant to say in the last post is that Admins can now add profile fields for users to fill in and of course display them anywhere in the template...

Okay, that's cool...what about profile fields that are restricted where only Admins can edit them?

B
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: [Unknown] on March 03, 2004, 02:59:46 PM
That can also be done, of course ;).

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: Permissions Screenshots
Post by: B on March 05, 2004, 11:12:29 AM
Cool...then I guess that would solve the multiple custom titles problem. ;D

B