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Customizing SMF => Graphics and Templates => Topic started by: Gallardo994 on August 04, 2014, 03:02:44 PM

Title: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Gallardo994 on August 04, 2014, 03:02:44 PM
Hello guys.

Here's what I have now: er-mtaDOTnet/index.php?action=mapuploader
It has to look like that though (same code, outside of SMF): er-mtaDOTnet/uploader/

(I'm not allowed to post links so replace DOT with an actual dot)

I wanna use only that styling, without SMF theme's CSS. At all. Is there any way to get rid of SMF's styling completely on such pages? I'm using Custom actions mod at the moment. Thanks for help.

SMF version: 2.0.8
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Kindred on August 04, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
well, how did you generate that "action" page?

Any page built to use SMF's templates will use SMF's CSS...   any other page will not.

So, sicne you are using ?action=mapuploader, it would appear that you have some sort of mod to create new actions/pages within SMF...   which is why you are getting trhe CSS (because you are supposed to)

If you don't want the CSS, then just create the page outside of SMF.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Gallardo994 on August 04, 2014, 04:33:33 PM
Quote from: Kindred on August 04, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
well, how did you generate that "action" page?

Any page built to use SMF's templates will use SMF's CSS...   any other page will not.

So, sicne you are using ?action=mapuploader, it would appear that you have some sort of mod to create new actions/pages within SMF...   which is why you are getting trhe CSS (because you are supposed to)

If you don't want the CSS, then just create the page outside of SMF.
I generated the page exactly with custom actions. I'm moving from IPB and it didn't theme custom actions for me, which i really loved. Isn't there any option to get a similar result? I don't think that creating an HTML with same style would be an option.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Kindred on August 04, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
well, actually, building custom actions INSIDE the forum wrapper is exactyl what it was intended to do (and what dozens of folks ask for) so...

essentially - no - using the custom actions mod to build a page will always put it in the forum wrapper.
if you want a page out of the wrapper, then you should build it outside of the forum...

sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear...
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: ARG01 on August 04, 2014, 07:12:14 PM
Why do you want to have styling without SMF theme's CSS? Is it because you are using a Dziner Studio premium theme (Skyline) illegally along with a missing copyright?   ???
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Kindred on August 04, 2014, 07:51:53 PM
ah. I missed that.

Gallardo994,

You have removed/altered the SMF copyright. This is quote permissible, under the BSD license. However, by doing so, you have basically indicated that you feel that you don't need assistance form SimpleMachines. Hoever, as a group, we have chosen not to provide support to sites with removed/altered copyrights.

If you are indeed using a pirated version of the DZiner studios theme, that just compounds the issue.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Gallardo994 on August 05, 2014, 12:44:35 PM
I remade the footer and added copyrights back. That was temporary as far as I'm moving from IPB to SMF and trying to save a lot of things.

Yes, I used Skyline theme as a base. It was given by a guy who owns a subscription so that's not really illegal.

This way I suppose I have to create a full HTML page which fits the style. Thanks for replies.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Kindred on August 05, 2014, 01:08:13 PM
side note on the DZiner Studio themes...

actually, what he did is a violation of the dziner terms of service. He can use dziner studio themes on his own sites... but he's not allowed to share them. That would require your own subscription.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: ARG01 on August 05, 2014, 01:46:48 PM
Quote from: Gallardo994 on August 05, 2014, 12:44:35 PM

Yes, I used Skyline theme as a base. It was given by a guy who owns a subscription so that's not really illegal.

Yes, this is illegal. Only the original purchaser of the theme is allowed to use it. Giving it away and possessing the theme without permission is illegal.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Bloc on August 05, 2014, 01:57:52 PM
Quote from: Gallardo994 on August 04, 2014, 03:02:44 PM
Hello guys.

Here's what I have now: er-mtaDOTnet/index.php?action=mapuploader
It has to look like that though (same code, outside of SMF): er-mtaDOTnet/uploader/

(I'm not allowed to post links so replace DOT with an actual dot)

I wanna use only that styling, without SMF theme's CSS. At all. Is there any way to get rid of SMF's styling completely on such pages? I'm using Custom actions mod at the moment. Thanks for help.

SMF version: 2.0.8
The best way to remove styling from a particular "action=xx" is to do it in the theme. Everything has to end up there, so all you need to do, is to change index.template's calls to the stylesheets by checking the $_GET['action'] value and either fetch normal stylesheets or a custom one. It does require insight into a little PHP, but nothing over the top.An simple example, using default theme:

Gary: Solution removed since we don't condone support on illegal pirated themes.

Of course the theme's normal CSS will not show on that page, so you need to supply custom CSS to make it look nice.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Gallardo994 on August 05, 2014, 02:06:07 PM
Thanks, that solves my issue.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: ARG01 on August 05, 2014, 02:08:43 PM
Gee, thanks Colby.  [sarcasm]

It has already been stated by the SMF Project Manager that support would not be given due to the use of a pirated theme and copyright issues. Way to go.  ???
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Bloc on August 05, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: SimpMode on August 05, 2014, 02:08:43 PM
Gee, thanks Colby.  [sarcasm] ???
You  are welcome. [also sarcasm]

What I don't understand is why you mix CUSTOM THEME copyright issues with SMF copyright issues - or at least seem to be. SMF team may not give support to those that remove the SMF copyright, but is it their task to uphold the same for theme copyrights? If it were a free theme hosted here I can see the point - but for a paid theme on another site?

Anyways, I gave a reply to an interesting problem in a board meant for those kind of questions. Or at least it was last I checked...
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: ARG01 on August 05, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: Colby67 on August 05, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: SimpMode on August 05, 2014, 02:08:43 PM
Gee, thanks Colby.  [sarcasm] ???
You  are welcome. [also sarcasm]

What I don't understand is why you mix CUSTOM THEME copyright issues with SMF copyright issues - or at least seem to be. SMF team may not give support to those that remove the SMF copyright, but is it their task to uphold the same for theme copyrights? If it were a free theme hosted here I can see the point - but for a paid theme on another site?

Anyways, I gave a reply to an interesting problem in a board meant for those kind of questions. Or at least it was last I checked...

It's just good to know that you support those that use property that is clearly stolen from hard working designers.  :o
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Bikken on August 05, 2014, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: Colby67 on August 05, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
You  are welcome. [also sarcasm]

What I don't understand is why you mix CUSTOM THEME copyright issues with SMF copyright issues - or at least seem to be. SMF team may not give support to those that remove the SMF copyright, but is it their task to uphold the same for theme copyrights? If it were a free theme hosted here I can see the point - but for a paid theme on another site?

Anyways, I gave a reply to an interesting problem in a board meant for those kind of questions. Or at least it was last I checked...

Bloc, Bjorn, Colby67 and soon maybe Bolcy76,

I ones appreciated you and your work. Not much left of it though.

Instead of you deleting your accounts constantly on DS, i'll do it for you this time permanent. [no sarcasm]

Cheers.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Kindred on August 05, 2014, 11:08:35 PM
do note.... I merely answered the question regarding the Dziner Studio theme "legality"

the rest of it was due to not having a valid SMF copyright (which is still not present, correctly)

Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: ARG01 on August 06, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
QuoteWhat I don't understand is why you mix CUSTOM THEME copyright issues with SMF copyright issues - or at least seem to be.

Also note....  just to clear things up, at no point did I mention the SMF copyright.  ;)

Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Gary on August 06, 2014, 04:25:39 PM
Quote from: Colby67 on August 05, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
What I don't understand is why you mix CUSTOM THEME copyright issues with SMF copyright issues - or at least seem to be. SMF team may not give support to those that remove the SMF copyright, but is it their task to uphold the same for theme copyrights? If it were a free theme hosted here I can see the point - but for a paid theme on another site?
I don't condone offering support to illegally obtained themes as much as I would the SMF copyright itself. We can't force people to legally obtain the theme itself, or put theme copyright notices back that much is true, but in that situation we do report the site to the theme's author where they can take over the issue. In this case, it's up to Bikken to determine what kind of action he wants to take.

Quote from: Colby67 on August 05, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
Anyways, I gave a reply to an interesting problem in a board meant for those kind of questions. Or at least it was last I checked...
Sure. So long as the theme is being used legally, which is even more important in the case of paid-for themes.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Bloc on August 08, 2014, 12:28:36 PM
Quote from: Gary on August 06, 2014, 04:25:39 PM
Quote from: Colby67 on August 05, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
What I don't understand is why you mix CUSTOM THEME copyright issues with SMF copyright issues - or at least seem to be. SMF team may not give support to those that remove the SMF copyright, but is it their task to uphold the same for theme copyrights? If it were a free theme hosted here I can see the point - but for a paid theme on another site?
I don't condone offering support to illegally obtained themes as much as I would the SMF copyright itself. We can't force people to legally obtain the theme itself, or put theme copyright notices back that much is true, but in that situation we do report the site to the theme's author where they can take over the issue. In this case, it's up to Bikken to determine what kind of action he wants to take.

Quote from: Colby67 on August 05, 2014, 02:21:08 PM
Anyways, I gave a reply to an interesting problem in a board meant for those kind of questions. Or at least it was last I checked...
Sure. So long as the theme is being used legally, which is even more important in the case of paid-for themes.

Uhm, what happens if a free theme suddenly is transformed to a paid one? Who will check these changes? And can anyone put a 5$ price on theme,so you will then deny anyone that you find "hasn't paid" for it, to ask questions that other members are allowed to reply to? This seems very unfair to me, seeing at the people that would suffer the most are the ones who put out free themes, get them ripped off and get NO payment whatsoever. While those that sell themes and occasionally experience someone who have themes they cant show being paid for, get the full protection here? What about the ones that use themes they bought, but no longer is in any "club"? Do they also get the same scrutiny?

I am not looking for an answer to this, because I already suspect what you will reply. That is quite apparant. But something is off here.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: ARG01 on August 08, 2014, 01:01:08 PM
Colby67, it was clear that the OP was using a pirated theme and that I, representing DzinerStudio along with an SMF staff member decided to deny support. SMF does not deny support for paid themes because they think that they should, they do it out of respect for the designer. The OP posted here at SMF only because he knew that he would not get support on a stolen theme over at Dziner Studio. I know that and you know that.

As a fellow designer, it is your complete lack of respect that I have issues with. Maybe you will understand that when someone steals one of your designs and then asks for support.

I respectfully recommend that this topic be locked.
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Antes on August 08, 2014, 02:29:58 PM
I think this topic does its job.

The thing all of you miss, which is very normal... when you take this to court (I mean the real one) they find the OP not guilty because of good faith. So stop nagging, learn law, just because you own a ****** doesn't mean you can hit everyone's head...
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Kindred on August 08, 2014, 03:01:36 PM
Actually, Antes, you are incorrect about the courts.

"good faith" counts for very little...  and ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse.

However, you are correct that the OPs question was answered and the thread has degenerated
Title: Re: Completely remove CSS styling for custom actions pages
Post by: Antes on August 08, 2014, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: Kindred on August 08, 2014, 03:01:36 PM
Actually, Antes, you are incorrect about the courts.

"good faith" counts for very little...  and ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse.

However, you are correct that the OPs question was answered and the thread has degenerated

You are missing this little thing; Good faith, in this way; The OP is actually tricked, because if you read this post;

Quote from: Gallardo994 on August 05, 2014, 12:44:35 PM
Yes, I used Skyline theme as a base. It was given by a guy who owns a subscription so that's not really illegal.

Still wrong? Yes
Guy needs to remove the theme from site? Yes
Do you have right to dictate the guy? No

Lets hope this clears some stuff for people who sends me pm and blocks me.