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Title: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Fenderen on October 20, 2016, 08:37:19 AM
Seriously - been using this forum for like 5 minutes and the Verification is already killing me. EVERY time I want to post a reply to a topic I have to go through the verification. IT TAKES AGES AND IS ANNOYING!  >:(
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Illori on October 20, 2016, 08:39:55 AM
sorry it is all we have at this time to try to combat spammers. it will go away after a few more valid posts. your post count does not increase if you post in chit chat.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Fenderen on October 20, 2016, 08:46:32 AM
Oh really? It will take me ages to get through this? How many posts am I supposed do make before I can avoid it?
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: vbgamer45 on October 20, 2016, 09:02:17 AM
I believe it is 10 posts
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on October 20, 2016, 10:06:19 AM
10 posts in boards where posts count.

Sometimes admins do bump post counts to bypass this.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: tinswap on December 10, 2016, 10:18:46 AM
i am new here and this is pissing me off already too.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: TemplateJuggler on December 10, 2016, 11:21:09 AM
I saw that too, but it was not the verification that frustrated me, but the difficulty of the captcha. I usually had to spend few seconds on each character to be able to figure out what are they. Then when I finally hit the Post, it turned out it was not right. I think I will not see that anymore, but still, SMF's captcha is too difficult to read in my opinion.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: vbgamer45 on December 10, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Maybe time for reCaptcha.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: TemplateJuggler on December 10, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Yes, I especially like the one where I only need to click on a checkbox.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: vbgamer45 on December 10, 2016, 01:13:52 PM
Yes, I especially like the one where I only need to click on a checkbox.
+2
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Colin on December 10, 2016, 03:18:38 PM
Maybe time for reCaptcha.

+3
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 10, 2016, 05:45:49 PM
except, recaptcha depends on a 3rd party service  which can (and has) change(d) without notice... and thus violates the precept that SMF is coherent in an of itself.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: live627 on December 10, 2016, 06:31:47 PM
SMF is coherent? LMFAO xD
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Colin on December 10, 2016, 06:40:11 PM
except, recaptcha depends on a 3rd party service  which can (and has) change(d) without notice... and thus violates the precept that SMF is coherent in an of itself.

Why is it a bad thing to use a free API for something that does its job better than proprietary technology?
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Illori on December 10, 2016, 07:17:01 PM
Why is it a bad thing to use a free API for something that does its job better than proprietary technology?

when it changes it and then the mod has to be updated as it is now broken and the very few people here that can update the code have busy lives so it can take time.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 10, 2016, 07:57:07 PM
Because, if we include it in the core product, then we have to release an update version in order to,patch any changes...  we ran into this alreayd with paypal...   and you have seen the delyas in getting the 2.0.13 release out the door...   when a third party system changes or breaks, we have to update EVERYONE ASAP....
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Colin on December 10, 2016, 08:25:58 PM
Oh sorry I wasn't clear. I was suggesting we use the mod on this site, not include the functionality in the core.

However, the urgent update issue should go away with proper API versioning (which google recapatcha implements)
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 10, 2016, 09:28:34 PM
and yet, time and again, third parties have proven unreliable in that regards.

Also, if we install a MOD here, then people will ask "Why can't I have this in the core product, since it's part of the main system"

In reality, the best option is NO CAPTCHA at all -- get 2.1 released and use the questions feature with the multiple answers and multiple language support - because THAT *IS* a core feature.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: live627 on December 11, 2016, 12:33:11 AM
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Also, if we install a MOD here, then people will ask "Why can't I have this in the core product, since it's part of the main system"
Highly skeptical - proof?
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 11, 2016, 12:43:24 AM
Experience...

Be skeptical all you want. People believe that this forum represents the core product... which is why we work our best to keep it as the core product.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: 青山 素子 on December 14, 2016, 12:04:36 AM
Maybe time for reCaptcha.

That's been broken for years, so I wouldn't advise using it as a new system, unless there is no other/better alternative.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: vbgamer45 on December 14, 2016, 12:11:15 AM
Maybe but at least it is readable when using i am not the robot option.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: live627 on December 14, 2016, 02:51:14 AM
why not use http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3824

is very readable
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on December 16, 2016, 10:37:26 AM
Why not questions, which even has a core product upgrade path?
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 16, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
if we were to implement a mod, it would be the questions mod, which, as Arantor notes, is a core feature in 2.1
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: live627 on December 16, 2016, 05:52:58 PM
do it
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Steve on December 17, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
+1
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: equinoxmatt on December 18, 2016, 04:59:29 PM
Agreed.  This was a huge annoyance when I first started on these forums.  Nearly made me give up.  God knows how many people have signed up, tried to post and given up.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on December 19, 2016, 03:40:35 AM
if we were to implement a mod, it would be the questions mod, which, as Arantor notes, is a core feature in 2.1

I even backported 2.1's code to 2.0 specifically for this purpose. Although changes in 2.1 now mean the upgrade might not work as intended, it certainly worked 100% as expected when I wrote it now almost two and a half years ago.

You guys had a solution for this, following every recommendation you yourselves have been giving for years, and even when people went out of their way to make this possible to implement, it wasn't adopted because adding a mod is apparently too difficult. I see nothing has changed since I left the team, where everything is discussed to death and nothing ever gets done.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Sandman1 on December 29, 2016, 11:41:31 AM
Can someone bump up my posts so I can upload an avatar?
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Irisado on December 29, 2016, 12:04:09 PM
We don't increase post counts just to facilitate the uploading of an avatar.  Once you have made ten legitimate posts (i.e. not spam replies or topics) you will be able to upload your own :).
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: d3vcho(); on December 29, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Also, not really the best place to ask it though...
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: BryanD on December 29, 2016, 01:27:24 PM
We don't increase post counts just to facilitate the uploading of an avatar.  Once you have made ten legitimate posts (i.e. not spam replies or topics) you will be able to upload your own :).

Really?  from another topic in this board seems it is done.

Hello frkweb, sorry for the inconveniences. I have bumped your post count a bit to bypass the captcha on posting.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Irisado on December 29, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
That was done for different reasons.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: BryanD on December 29, 2016, 01:35:15 PM
Besides for one being about posting and one being about an avatar there is precedent in this board that this practice has been done many times before for various reasons.  It is a practice that has been done since min post count was initiated.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 29, 2016, 01:39:39 PM
and yet, as stated - we are not going to do it.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: BryanD on December 29, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
Irisado, as you know, stated that:

 
We don't increase post counts just to facilitate the uploading of an avatar.

I merely stated that there is a precedent that it has been done.  No one until now has stated that it will not be done.  I would also appreciate if you would kindly lose the attitude, I have done nothing wrong! I am also more than happy if you wish to continue this is PM with you Kindred, but my point has been made.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 29, 2016, 01:46:31 PM
Brian,  there is no precedent for avatars or other post-controlled access. Only for issues with the captcha, as you already acknowledged...  they are two completely different requests - so Irisado was correct in the first place. :P
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: BryanD on December 29, 2016, 01:55:15 PM
There is a precedent, you and I both know that there is, we have both done such action previously.  I may be a natural blonde but I am not as dumb as I was :P  Also my name is correctly spelt on my display name, how can you get it wrong, Will? :P
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 29, 2016, 01:57:38 PM
stupid autocorrect...
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: BryanD on December 29, 2016, 01:59:58 PM
stupid autocorrect...

At least it did not autocorrect to something rude :P
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Colin on December 29, 2016, 03:17:38 PM
Wahoo

https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/pull/3744
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Irisado on December 29, 2016, 04:03:56 PM
Besides for one being about posting and one being about an avatar

A very salient caveat, which highlights that the point you were making was not correct.  Just to be clear though:

There is a precedent, you and I both know that there is, we have both done such action previously.

There is no record of which I am aware to suggest that someone had their post count boosted solely because they wanted to be able to upload an avatar.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on December 29, 2016, 04:16:11 PM
I see nothing has changed since I left the team, where everything is discussed to death and nothing ever gets done.

  (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thekrashsite.com%2Fpics%2Fdeadhorse.gif&hash=fcf9cf1fcb60f3d5fde62d52ed31a375)

Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: 青山 素子 on December 29, 2016, 05:19:51 PM
While there have been several instances where a forum admin would bump post count for an indvidual, it was usually over an issue with something functional (verification, manage e-mail notifications, etc) rather than decorative.

There is not a rule that all requests must be acted upon in an affirmative manner. It is up to the admin as to if the request is reasonable given the reason. It seems several of the admins feel that wanting to add an avatar isn't a good enough reason for manually bumping a user post count. Personally, I agree with that decision.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on December 29, 2016, 05:45:15 PM
Wahoo

https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/pull/3744

Interesting that the team has chosen to ignore its own long-standing policy to limit third-party APIs, and to keep putting new features in this late in the day. Small wonder it's 5 years since 2.1 was started and the third beta isn't out yet.

Also interesting that people think it's less irritating than questions, when my experience of the past few years trying both has shown to go the other way. 'Pick all the squares that contain sushi'... yeah, pick any 3 of the squares that look vaguely like they might contain it.

I also assume that it will be in use here almost immediately, which means you might finally get less spam here even though the tools were made available a couple of years ago to do the whole question thing.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 29, 2016, 07:06:51 PM
Arantor,

the one issue with the questions on this site remains the languages...  Yes, we could implement your back-port mod. However, then we have to write 20+ questions AND have the translated.

So yes...   we've decided to move past my initial disagreements with the third party, since reCPATCHA seems to be something that can be implemented faster than getting the questions written and translated
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: BryanD on December 29, 2016, 07:29:33 PM
I may be a wee bit outdated on it but is recaptcha not easier to crack as its more common?
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: nend on December 29, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
However, then we have to write 20+ questions AND have the translated.
Then a month later write 20+ more questions and have them translated as the previous questions will have been harvested by then.

I may be a wee bit outdated on it but is recaptcha not easier to crack as its more common?
It does have its negatives as the spammers no longer make the forum look busier. O:)
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on December 30, 2016, 02:37:54 AM
Arantor,

the one issue with the questions on this site remains the languages...  Yes, we could implement your back-port mod. However, then we have to write 20+ questions AND have the translated.

So yes...   we've decided to move past my initial disagreements with the third party, since reCPATCHA seems to be something that can be implemented faster than getting the questions written and translated

Because you couldn't have organised that in the last two years?
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Irisado on December 30, 2016, 05:35:18 AM
There simply are not enough translators to translate questions into all the languages which would be needed, and that has been the case for a number of years now.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Sandman1 on December 30, 2016, 09:54:00 AM
We don't increase post counts just to facilitate the uploading of an avatar.  Once you have made ten legitimate posts (i.e. not spam replies or topics) you will be able to upload your own :).

Do I really need to make ten legitimate posts in order to upload an avatar on the 2000 AD Online Forum? I don't have any interest for this site.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on December 30, 2016, 10:33:21 AM
No, you only need to make 10 posts to have an avatar here. We don't run the 2000 AD forum, we just provided the software.

You should probably contact their admin team or post on their forum, we cannot help you.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on December 30, 2016, 10:36:43 AM
There simply are not enough translators to translate questions into all the languages which would be needed, and that has been the case for a number of years now.

Great, so I wasted all that time and effort for nothing, good to know. I continue to be amazed at how disorganised the team is. Because you couldn't, say, spend a small amount of money paying a translation firm or anything. Or even Google Translate as a fallback. Or indeed pretty much anything except what was actually done.

You also should advise the team to stop recommending anti spam questions since it's somewhat in the vein of "do as I say not do as I do".
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Kindred on December 30, 2016, 12:18:17 PM
Why? Anti-spam questions are effective... and on a single language site, they are nearly perfect...   even on a multilanguage site, they are good, with your mod, if the admin can translate the questions themself...   but here, it becomes exponentially more difficult, given the number of languages we still technically support

and no... you didn't waste your time.  That mod is in use in many places... I use it on several of my sites. :D
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?! / Captcha / reCAPTCHA / s
Post by: Margus on February 28, 2017, 01:08:00 PM
/a little rant top of it, please do not take it personally but this mistake is global/

What kind of BAD behavor is that by mod, that they close the topics as nothing and  point  at best to the another closed topic by taking  time telling "there is another post about it, take time to search" ( http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=552467.0 why not point to HERE?
Is this somekind of bad joke? Final closing post Have to have link to correct forum, this is so elementary why it needs to be told even? And on this same closed topic was already mentioned, that this issue did not come out in search, bdw)

posting, linking a link to a post where correct topic is, is  what  normal people would do who want to help.

Point, philosophy of SMF is Whole, making things most easy not forcing people to search and look around in sircles in hope they not find. This is not some linux mindset that some try to keep "we try to make things harded then maybe people learn". No they just choose another thing that works. I not, as i love SMF forum or linux 10+ year ago, but most others would in instant.


When board name is about "verification" and people are searching "Captcha" then these posts nessesarily do not come up in search, as other people who made same mistake noticed. I searched, i also did not see. Now after mentioning many times, they do perhaps as i added these words to subject.


And how long is this known issue been, 5 years, 7 ??

No these chaptas DO NOT need to be translated, English for starters is ENOUGHT, at least something functional. There is thousands of languages, you can not hold development back in English based software with excuses we not have translations, People have something that works in english radher then something that stops their usage of software completly, and after all, current Captcha ONLY stops humans as it seems, it is made against humans in current situation, not against rbots.

Main point:

Here is one great japanese  guy http://www.animeneko.net/projects/smf/recaptcha-for-smf/  google reCAPTCHA work (out of many in modding section), just write to him, and base your work on it. It just needs little bit fixes at best. If there is something withot google eyes, maybe even better, maye.

Just replace for god sake this thing for starters in here with ANYTHING, this what for the mods was made and Your modding  system that makes easy to change parts of forum functions, this is one CORE feature, please use it!
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=213535.780


Just insane, that complete noobs have to tell professionals these kind of things, over and over again.
Try yourself few times solve these Captcha, then you know the frustruration. And huge amount  of people it has been keep away from SMF.

oh, and now 10, 15 times solving this Captcha, if i am lucky (as audio does not play on my pc)

/edit, oh sorry it is You Motoko-chan, to irritated to notice!
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Margus on February 28, 2017, 01:30:18 PM
point was, that on chritical things like that, make temporally fix (yes not most popular idea) ON YOUR OWN MAIN FORUM and then work on real fix, for entire software if needed. It is shame when software promoting forum it self have epic simple failure like this, for years. (kind of like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMToNsCyFQU but more, you get the point)

(well it seems i have been lucky solving this chapta now, or maybe eyes getting more used to, only taking few, 5 times now, getting to be pro.. but remeberthe rage at first.. not even remeber what i wanted originally post)
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on February 28, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
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Is this somekind of bad joke?

No, it's simply frustration on the moderator's part because this is asked so frequently that people are tired of answering the question, when there's 100 other threads on the same subject.

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Point, philosophy of SMF is Whole

I would not make such bold claims about what SMF's philosophy is or is not - and I've been a team member, I've even been part of the development team itself - and I would be wary of asserting what the official philosophy is.

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No these chaptas DO NOT need to be translated

Given that the recommendation for years now has been to use questions & answers rather than a CAPTCHA, they do need to be translated. Otherwise the odds of getting the right answer are rather low (or it's too easy for bots to just search on Google, yes, bots do that now)

And there's the problem. SMF 2.0 doesn't support translations for Q&A, though I did make a mod in 2014 for it, but apparently it's been too hard getting translations for Q&A (and no, Google Translate can't be used because then you'd have the same problem as before)

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google reCAPTCHA work

There's also the small matter of 'now we have to maintain it when they change their API' and the even more complex matter of 'given that it's possible to buy 1000 solved reCAPTCHAs for $1', it suddenly starts to be less of a magic solution.

That said, 2.1 uses reCAPTCHA (much to my disgust on the subject when the tools for solving this were implemented back in 2014)

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Try yourself few times solve these Captcha, then you know the frustruration. And huge amount  of people it has been keep away from SMF.

It's also the fact that it keeps away the spam too. How many spammers do you think get through here? (It's currently about 3/day. Using reCAPTCHA probably will make that problem worse, not better)

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point was, that on chritical things like that, make temporally fix ON YOUR OWN MAIN FORUM

Do you support dozens of languages? On your forum, using Q&A is probably an option. It definitely is on mine. But it isn't here, so the best - and recommended - solution isn't an option for reasons already outlined.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Margus on February 28, 2017, 02:03:29 PM
Arantor, fair answers, but still, take the blame also.

Just fallowup thoughts,

Spammers not coming here on massive assult all the time as it is not a high target for spam, what to sale here, accident when they come as there is to many techiical people to beat them off in instant.
 As it has been told, this chapta is passed as nothing when they Want to come.

You not have to be afraid of spammers as much as afraid scaring people away.

Who will start to buy chaptas to break in to here, for what reason? 5 Minute fame?

Well, strange You missed whole point of SMF while being a teammember, what You mean there is no official philosophy?
Get things gone as Easy and as little effort, clean, safe, simple, as possible. Is the point.

was it not recuired to understand what "simple Machines" means, the logo it self gives an hint:

A simple machine is a mechanical device that changes the direction or magnitude of a force.  In general, they can be defined as the simplest mechanisms that use mechanical advantage (also called leverage) to multiply force.  Usually the term refers to the six classical simple machines which were defined by Renaissance scientists:
    Lever
    Wheel and axle
    Pulley
    Inclined plane
    Wedge
    Screw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_machine



Where Do You think the forum get the name and logo from? (?)

I am sure You can have talk with  Joseph Fung and Jeff Lewis about it if simple the name and logo does not ring the bells: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=208875.0

You can Use LOGICAL questions, math, (we still talking about THIS forum here, imidiate fix, that is not highest target for spammers) how hard is for spammers to get the question answer base and use it? 
Anyway, how many words there is to translate (if it is actual idea, that SMF go for sure, the WORK link should be added to topic all the time, so people can pick it up, only way to speed it up + looking people from language forums who do it for free), i can do the Estonian part.

And for end sentance do not say "what is outlined" but as long telling this, takes time: WHAT IS THE FINAL PLAN.
It is so liberal way always to say that it has been told, instead telling what needs to be told.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: CoreISP on February 28, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
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Spammers not coming here on massive assult all the time as it is not a high target for spam

Yeahhh... Our banhammers and firewalls vehemently disagree with you.

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how hard is for spammers to get the question answer base and use it?

For math questions? Like half a second at maximum (and that's already generously high.) including interpreting and submitting it, independently.


As has been said, we understand the annoyance with the captcha and are working on it.
There's no further information on that for now, so kindly be patient.
Moreover, as has been indicated - you may request your post-count to be raised to circumvent it. Considering you've been a member here for a very long time, I've raised it for you. Simple eh? ;)
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on February 28, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
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but still, take the blame also.

No. I pushed hard to change the situation. Not only did I make the multi-language Q&A for 2.1, I made it available for SMF 2.0 - for this site - 2 and a half years ago. I can't make them change their mind about using it.

I also wrote other anti-spam mods in the same sort of time, all of which would help this situation, and none of them are used here either. This isn't on me. I have tried to make this problem go away, and I think I've done more than most on this subject.

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Spammers not coming here on massive assult all the time as it is not a high target for spam,

It's a huge target. There are entire boards closed off because they were so frequented by spammers. The only reason you don't see them is because you're not here every day, you've not been a moderator here, you've not woken up to find dozens and dozens of spam posts to removed that appeared while you were asleep.

For a site that typically has hundreds of active users all at once (and remember: every SMF forum links back here!) it's a huge target, though not as big as it used to be because forums in general are dying.

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You not have to be afraid of spammers as much as afraid scaring people away.

You don't know how many spammers there are.

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Well, strange You missed whole point of SMF while being a teammember, what You mean there is no official philosophy?

I didn't say that there wasn't one - there certainly used to be one, but I think it disappeared a long time ago when the original founders and devs left, and I think there's been a distinct loss of way since.

I know exactly what these things mean. I remember when Jeff wrote a blog post that if anyone linked to it, they could be banned because Jeff had left and things got very sour and very toxic. It's not an accident that I have 66,000 posts here.

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You can Use LOGICAL questions, math, (we still talking about THIS forum here, imidiate fix, that is not highest target for spammers) how hard is for spammers to get the question answer base and use it? 

xrumer has been able to solve math questions for years, and even if it can't solve it by itself, it can ask Google. xrumer, for point of fact, is a spam tool, that is upgraded regularly (like weekly) and shares data between every other xrumer instance out there so that breaking one forum's CAPTCHA helps all the others.

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Anyway, how many words there is to translate (if it is actual idea, that SMF go for sure, the WORK link should be added to topic all the time, so people can pick it up, only way to speed it up + looking people from language forums who do it for free), i can do the Estonian part.

When I pitched this to the team in 2014, I was suggesting 10 questions, each of which with 3-4 answers, but getting that across the dozens of languages SMF supports was apparently too difficult.

Consider something: I'm not on the SMF team. Why do you think that is? Could it be that I grew frustrated with the team in the same kind of way you are?

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WHAT IS THE FINAL PLAN.

You assume there is one. I know there hasn't been a plan for a while, it's why I quit, because I was so fed up of endless discussions and lack of action. When a discussion for 'child boards' vs 'sub-boards' was a multi-page topic, I knew enough was enough.
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Trupti42 on May 09, 2017, 08:52:13 AM
I use live email from my mobile as well as my laptops, (3 different PCs) and right when Im about to send an important email, it gets stopped in the process by the annoying verification process which keeps telling me theyre avoiding spammers. SEVERAL TIMES A DAY! this continues even AFTER I have gone through the verification process multiple times. When I try to verify with a mobile number, the code never even comes through!!
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Arantor on May 09, 2017, 08:56:39 AM
I have no idea what you're talking about, the verification you describe is not used on this forum before you make a post (which is what this topic is about)
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Walletform on September 24, 2018, 12:57:40 AM
Sorry about the old thread. However, I am having the same issue!
Title: Re: How do we get rid of the annoying verification?!
Post by: Irisado on September 24, 2018, 04:37:16 AM
Please refer to the responses posted throughout this topic, which, being over year old and no longer on the front page of this board can be left to rest.