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General Community => Site Comments, Issues and Concerns => Topic started by: landyvlad on September 20, 2018, 04:52:33 AM

Title: Are ads new here?
Post by: landyvlad on September 20, 2018, 04:52:33 AM
I've never noticed them before, but now I have several ads on the page offering me dates with farm girls and other less savoury products....
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: SychO on September 20, 2018, 04:54:23 AM
They've been here for as long as I can remember
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Shambles on September 20, 2018, 07:07:51 AM
Maybe you recently removed or suspended some kind of AdBlock extension from your browser setup?


I did just that last week and am frankly horrified at the number of unsavoury adverts that now show here. I mean, who the hell wants a crash course on advanced Puppetry?
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Dzonny on September 20, 2018, 07:12:07 AM
Umm, I guess that everyone sees what they search for :D :P

Btw, when you're talking about ads, you think about one ad position under the "Advertisement" in the header, right?
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: SychO on September 20, 2018, 07:28:12 AM
Umm, I guess that everyone sees what they search for :D :P

Well they are google ads, so the ads depend on the data collected from your searches and stuff, right ?

"dates with farm girls"
boy o boy :P
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Shambles on September 20, 2018, 08:03:22 AM
There appears an advert box on the bottom of my display, right justified to the copyright, making two in total.

As for showing relevant ads, I can honestly say I've never asked Google to search for a well-lubricated, bald Taiwanese girl guide willing to give me a rub down, in my local area.

Well, not recently...
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Dzonny on September 20, 2018, 08:33:21 AM
As for showing relevant ads, I can honestly say I've never asked Google to search for a well-lubricated, bald Taiwanese girl guide willing to give me a rub down, in my local area.

Well, not recently...

 :P :P :D
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Steve on September 20, 2018, 05:53:37 PM
Google never forgets. (https://i.imgur.com/QTNki1q.gif)
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on September 20, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Is that why I see ads for 'Dates with farm animals'?
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Shambles on September 20, 2018, 06:09:20 PM
^ yes :P
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Gwenwyfar on September 21, 2018, 11:41:16 AM
Creepy.

My ads are all normal, but then again I only use google when I search normal stuff ::)


On a more serious note, on some sites that need to tune their ads better for their audience (like in kids sites), they even have a report system on ads because of the weird or graphic stuff that appears now and then :P
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on September 21, 2018, 12:41:51 PM
Google actually tends to offer dating ads, gambling and other less family friendly stuff as a default, IF the site has allowed it, AND you don't have enough history for Google to work with. The different ad categories allowed or disallowed can be configured per website.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Gwenwyfar on September 21, 2018, 03:18:13 PM
They sometimes have medical-related ones with sick (in both meanings of the word) photos as well.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: CoreISP on September 21, 2018, 04:14:53 PM
Google actually tends to offer dating ads, gambling and other less family friendly stuff as a default, IF the site has allowed it, AND you don't have enough history for Google to work with. The different ad categories allowed or disallowed can be configured per website.

Believe me that's far from fail safe. :P
We have it set to be family friendly last I checked with adult categories blocked, but I've had to contact them a few times because people reported adult and casino ads all the same.
It has been massively improved though, its quite rare these days to hear about ads that slip through.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: affofficial on September 21, 2018, 05:15:16 PM
Yeah just noticed this as well. Ah well goes to show that we all can do this to our sites just to annoy others.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: skb on September 22, 2018, 03:36:30 AM
We have it set to be family friendly last I checked with adult categories blocked, but I've had to contact them a few times because people reported adult and casino ads all the same.
It has been massively improved though, its quite rare these days to hear about ads that slip through.

I have the same problem on our forum. And I keep seeing ads for dates with Russian / Ukranian ladies wherever I go (here as well). I know the ads are "targeted" but I have never searched for that kinda content for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on September 22, 2018, 05:39:56 PM
I don't see how anyone can be criticized for blocking ads when they're seeing offensive crap wherever they go.  If a site (like this one) is being partially or fully supported by ad revenues, they should be all over Google to be selective about the ads they serve, or not use Google ads.  And it would also be considerate to members if you didn't allow ads that contain trackers.  I stopped using Adblock plus a while ago due to problems with system overhead (i.e., bloat), and have been using IE tracking protection.  I never see an ad anywhere.  If they were just ads, I'd see (and ignore) them, but all ads contain trackers, so they're blocked.  I don't have any sympathy for SM or any website that tries to push this garbage on their users, then whines that they shouldn't block ads.

Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Antechinus on September 22, 2018, 09:50:47 PM
If you set your browser to refuse third party cookies, which I regard as standard operating procedure, it automatically blocks all Google ads even if you don't have an ad blocker installed. Reason? They all contain tracking code (ie: third party cookies) so even in the absence of Adblock or whatever they still get thumped by the browser setting.

I am ok with with not enabling an ad blocker on all sites, but I'm not ok with opening up my browser to any and all third party cookies on the web. Since that's only available as a global setting, and can't be switched on and off on a per site basis, the result is that Google ends up disqualifying all its ads from ever showing in my browser. That's their problem. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on September 23, 2018, 12:42:40 AM
I've always blocked third party cookies, from day one, but have never found that blocks ads, just cookies.  I have no problem with ad supported sites, one of my regulars has over thirty advertisers that he built up through legitimate business contacts (not Google), and I see those ads because there's no crap hidden in them.  But I do have a problem with websites that aid and abet privacy abuse because they're too lazy to attract legit advertisers, or too stupid to understand that their site's been recruited for predatory purposes.  You can genuflect before Google, and maybe you even believe they're helping you by throwing you some nickels and dimes, but in the end, nobody benefits but Google.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Antechinus on September 23, 2018, 01:32:21 AM
That setting blocks Google ads for me (Pale Moon or Firefox). The container element for them will display, but there's nothing inside it. Dunno how it would be on IE because I never use it.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: CoreISP on September 24, 2018, 10:52:55 AM
I have the same problem on our forum. And I keep seeing ads for dates with Russian / Ukranian ladies wherever I go (here as well). I know the ads are "targeted" but I have never searched for that kinda content for as long as I can remember.

Oh those algorithms don't necessarily look at what *you* searched for. It's far more complex.
If you could screenshot that advertisement and right-click it (copy the link), and then send all that over to me would be great, then I can block it here. :)
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on September 24, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
That setting blocks Google ads for me (Pale Moon or Firefox). The container element for them will display, but there's nothing inside it. Dunno how it would be on IE because I never use it.

Hmm, think you're correct.  If I turn off IE tracking protection, looks the same, just empty containers.  No ads here or at nytimes.com.  I have first and third party cookies blocked, only session cookies are allowed.  nytimes.com is whitelisted to allow cookies, sm.org is not.  Don't know why they work the same with different settings, or if whitelisting applies to both first and third party cookies.  Will have to play with it.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: skb on September 25, 2018, 03:10:36 AM
Oh those algorithms don't necessarily look at what *you* searched for. It's far more complex.
If you could screenshot that advertisement and right-click it (copy the link), and then send all that over to me would be great, then I can block it here. :)

Sure. Next time I see that ad, I will send it to you. But they seem to have been blocked for the past couple of days.
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: skb on September 26, 2018, 12:34:48 AM
Here you go

https://web.anastasiadate.com/lp2/?afid=1390650818&subafid=287825295313&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-rfg3erX3QIVURBoCh3Y5QIvEAEYASAAEgJF7fD_BwE

Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: Shambles on September 26, 2018, 02:53:22 AM
^ I see her regularly.

As an advert on here, silly, not in real life ;)
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: CoreISP on September 26, 2018, 07:48:44 PM
Thanks! :) I'll get that removed :)
Title: Re: Are ads new here?
Post by: landyvlad on October 16, 2018, 07:25:34 AM
Sorry, forgot this thread.

Btw, when you're talking about ads, you think about one ad position under the "Advertisement" in the header, right?

Yeah, usually just the one.

May well have been the third party cookie issue.  Cheers.