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Otsikko: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 06:25:52 AP
Sorry I haven't posted for a while...  Basically I am getting inundated with spam posts that have nothing to do with the topic concerned, what is the best thing I can do to prevent this?  Captchas don't work if the 'posters' aren't bots, so again, what should I do?
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: Shambles - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 06:58:10 AP
Stop them signing up in the first place.

Spam - my forum is flooded with spam, what can I do  (https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Spam_-_my_forum_is_flooded_with_spam%2C_what_can_I_do)
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 09:48:46 AP
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=571419.msg4045460#msg4045460
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=569553.msg4030501#msg4030501
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:31:46 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 09:48:46 AP
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=571419.msg4045460#msg4045460
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=569553.msg4030501#msg4030501
Thanks, but deciphering verification codes and answering verification questions only works against bots.  Also, how can you know who is or who isn't going to be a spammer?
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: vbgamer45 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:41:52 IP
I like asking a reason to join reason on registration.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: L2Scarlet - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 05:04:34 IP
Using this mod... Reason for joining. (Best and simple mod ever).
https://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2326
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 07:56:11 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:31:46 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 09:48:46 AP
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=571419.msg4045460#msg4045460
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=569553.msg4030501#msg4030501
Thanks, but deciphering verification codes and answering verification questions only works against bots.  Also, how can you know who is or who isn't going to be a spammer?
Is your problem related with bots only, or problematic people that you know are doing bad things on purpose? If your problem is with individuals I can help you to solve problem, in private.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 05:35:08 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: vbgamer45 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:41:52 IP
I like asking a reason to join reason on registration.
How does this prevent spam posts?  Someone will give a reason, a valid reason, then join the forum and post spam anyway.  The only foolproof way I can think of is to delete their account, but this isn't ideal either for all sorts of reasons.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 05:38:08 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: L2Scarlet - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 05:04:34 IP
Using this mod... Reason for joining. (Best and simple mod ever).
https://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2326
This seams a possible solution, thanks :)  Having to wait to be approved could help deter them and make them go elsewhere.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 05:41:01 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 07:56:11 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:31:46 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 09:48:46 AP
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=571419.msg4045460#msg4045460
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=569553.msg4030501#msg4030501
Thanks, but deciphering verification codes and answering verification questions only works against bots.  Also, how can you know who is or who isn't going to be a spammer?
Is your problem related with bots only, or problematic people that you know are doing bad things on purpose? If your problem is with individuals I can help you to solve problem, in private.
I think it's mainly individuals, but also a few bots as well - difficult to tell.  Some of the user names are a bit odd though.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: m4z - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 06:49:26 AP
Is it feasible for you to "warn" the individual users, and put them under post moderation if they continue to "spam"?
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 07, 2020, 07:01:20 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: m4z - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 06:49:26 AP
Is it feasible for you to "warn" the individual users, and put them under post moderation if they continue to "spam"?
I'll try this, thanks  :)
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: vbgamer45 - maaliskuu 07, 2020, 12:41:08 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 05:35:08 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: vbgamer45 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:41:52 IP
I like asking a reason to join reason on registration.
How does this prevent spam posts?  Someone will give a reason, a valid reason, then join the forum and post spam anyway.  The only foolproof way I can think of is to delete their account, but this isn't ideal either for all sorts of reasons.
Depends like on a game forum I mine It helps me tell if some one is legit or not. If someone puts in nonsense i know not to approve them.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: efk - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 12:39:27 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 05:41:01 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 07:56:11 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:31:46 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 09:48:46 AP
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=571419.msg4045460#msg4045460
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=569553.msg4030501#msg4030501
Thanks, but deciphering verification codes and answering verification questions only works against bots.  Also, how can you know who is or who isn't going to be a spammer?
Is your problem related with bots only, or problematic people that you know are doing bad things on purpose? If your problem is with individuals I can help you to solve problem, in private.
I think it's mainly individuals, but also a few bots as well - difficult to tell.  Some of the user names are a bit odd though.
Screenshots? Post on imgur and post links here. Based on their behavior if they are real humans I can help you to push them away.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 12:52:24 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: vbgamer45 - maaliskuu 07, 2020, 12:41:08 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 05:35:08 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: vbgamer45 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:41:52 IP
I like asking a reason to join reason on registration.
How does this prevent spam posts?  Someone will give a reason, a valid reason, then join the forum and post spam anyway.  The only foolproof way I can think of is to delete their account, but this isn't ideal either for all sorts of reasons.
Depends like on a game forum I mine It helps me tell if some one is legit or not. If someone puts in nonsense i know not to approve them.
Yea that's a good work around, but in the end I just sent the spammers a PM saying they would be banned if they continued posting, er more spam... ::)
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 12:57:07 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 12:39:27 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 06, 2020, 05:41:01 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 07:56:11 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ajac63 - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 03:31:46 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: efk - maaliskuu 05, 2020, 09:48:46 AP
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=571419.msg4045460#msg4045460
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=569553.msg4030501#msg4030501
Thanks, but deciphering verification codes and answering verification questions only works against bots.  Also, how can you know who is or who isn't going to be a spammer?
Is your problem related with bots only, or problematic people that you know are doing bad things on purpose? If your problem is with individuals I can help you to solve problem, in private.
I think it's mainly individuals, but also a few bots as well - difficult to tell.  Some of the user names are a bit odd though.
Screenshots? Post on imgur and post links here. Based on their behavior if they are real humans I can help you to push them away.
Thanks efk :)  I've just deleted all of them, but if I get them again I'll def post links there!
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: nidec - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 05:19:50 IP
I check the IP address of every new member to see if there's a history of spamming or malicious posting
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: Shambles - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 05:26:36 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: nidec
I check the IP address of every new member to see if there's a history of spamming or malicious posting


And how are you doing this, based on IP address?
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: efk - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 08:23:01 IP
He is checking IPs on google, sometimes can help but usually you can't trust it. Email and 1st post can tell you more about new user nidec, but doing bans before being sure is not wise move. Also there is Track User option on profile, so that might show you range with accounts from the same owner if not bot.

ajac63 send me screenshots when you see it, or if you have problem with more people. I can make you to be their worst experience.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: nidec - maaliskuu 09, 2020, 01:33:02 IP
Im not checking them on google.
I use Abuseipdb but there are other companies out there offering the same service.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 10, 2020, 09:21:45 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: nidec - maaliskuu 08, 2020, 05:19:50 IP
I check the IP address of every new member to see if there's a history of spamming or malicious posting
Ah, never thought of that, good idea, but how exactly does that work?
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: nidec - maaliskuu 11, 2020, 01:32:08 IP
I copy and paste it into Abuseipdb and they show if anyone else has reported them and what they've been reported for.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: a10 - maaliskuu 11, 2020, 03:21:57 IP
^^^ If reason for any doubt I right click ip, click search in google, if it show up in results like cleantalk, stopforumspam etc etc, no doubt.

& the name\email type that's often used, things like (real examples from sfs):
VirgilioLa   [email protected]
BerthaMich  [email protected].
charlenezs16   [email protected]
miriamuh4   [email protected]
FlynnConge   [email protected]
etc
Noone in their right mind seeing such crap would ever spend a second wondering if it could be legit.

And still using my question system (30 q, 3 active), not a bot registering for year after year. Millions of attempts.
2 or 3 'human bots' a year = no problem whatsoever.

Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 15, 2020, 06:38:07 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: nidec - maaliskuu 11, 2020, 01:32:08 IP
I copy and paste it into Abuseipdb and they show if anyone else has reported them and what they've been reported for.
I might sign-up to Abuseipdb, although spammers might be using machines in libraries, Internet cafes and such so IP addresses will change.
Otsikko: Re: How can I prevent spam posts
Kirjoitti: ajac63 - maaliskuu 15, 2020, 06:40:04 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: a10 - maaliskuu 11, 2020, 03:21:57 IP
^^^ If reason for any doubt I right click ip, click search in google, if it show up in results like cleantalk, stopforumspam etc etc, no doubt.

& the name\email type that's often used, things like (real examples from sfs):
VirgilioLa   [email protected]
BerthaMich  [email protected].
charlenezs16   [email protected]
miriamuh4   [email protected]
FlynnConge   [email protected]
etc
Noone in their right mind seeing such crap would ever spend a second wondering if it could be legit.

And still using my question system (30 q, 3 active), not a bot registering for year after year. Millions of attempts.
2 or 3 'human bots' a year = no problem whatsoever.
Thanks :)  I'll try that as well.