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Title: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: David on February 14, 2004, 02:14:28 PM
It is with great satisfaction and pleasure to announce that we have released Beta 4 of SMF to our Charter Members.  Once again, we would like to thank them for all of their help throughout the beta process as well as everyone who has supported us through this transition from YaBB SE.  As we have said before, this will be released to the public shortly after we are sure it is ready.  The next release will  not be a complete feature freeze until we reach the release candidate stage of the public process.  This public release will be more or less identical to Beta 4 but minus any bugs found.  We still have a few ends to tie up in terms of documentation and the daunting task of choosing a default theme but in terms of stable code, we are there.  While I cannot give you an exact timeframe for this public release, we are very close.

Thanks again for all of your support, feedback, ideas, and generally being a great community!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Jeff Lewis on February 14, 2004, 02:17:14 PM
Again, this is the version the public will also get (it's a beta remember) but we're keeping with our policy of Charter Member release first which will also help u s catch any glaring errors that we need to correct. It  will be much easier to answer 100 requests about the same bug than several hundred :)

So, it draws very near and the wait is almost over :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: [Unknown] on February 14, 2004, 02:28:10 PM
Sorry, I felt the need to clarify a few sentences so people wouldn't get mad about this and that.  (so easy to misunderstand things when you're doing it on purpose.)

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Tom on February 14, 2004, 02:37:23 PM
Yey!   :D

/me is excited!

Congrats everyone! Time to pop open the champane. ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Justyne on February 14, 2004, 03:25:24 PM
congratulations... ;)
will try it out tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: RogueGeek on February 14, 2004, 04:23:17 PM
installed and running smoothly on my site

http://www.freedomspeak.org/forums


thanks for all the great work.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Tyris on February 14, 2004, 09:48:33 PM
/me goes into his dribbeling frenzy again.
well... at last... its so close now.. I can smell it :)
dont make us wait too much longer guys ;) :)
and good job to the whole team!! :D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: bostasp on February 14, 2004, 09:51:22 PM
Oh for giddy aunt Dorris' sake
/me hands Tyris a tissue
Next time, you can clean it up!

Well, I've got it up and running ;)
http://community.bostasp.net

oh, and great work guys :D


Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: eFishie on February 14, 2004, 10:09:13 PM
/me starts hacking bostasp's forums.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Amacythe on February 14, 2004, 10:39:29 PM
/me can't wait much longer...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: eFishie on February 14, 2004, 10:48:36 PM
Me neither.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: morph on February 15, 2004, 12:09:02 AM
Me neither. Oh wait, I already have it :P.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: eFishie on February 15, 2004, 01:05:42 AM
Pardon me, but:

Bastard!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: morph on February 15, 2004, 01:07:10 AM
Quote from: <? Piranha($fx); ?> on February 15, 2004, 01:05:42 AM
Pardon me, but:

Bastard!

:P You'll have it soon enough ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 1979Z28 on February 15, 2004, 04:50:29 AM
Everything worked fine here. Just had to rename a few things :)

http://www.ufba.org/forum/index.php
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Acf on February 15, 2004, 05:12:16 AM
:'( it's a miracle!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Mr. Jinx on February 15, 2004, 09:57:14 AM
Looking good.. upgrade went flawless!
Hmm, I have to take a look at the user/board permissions, huge change!

http://www.chelloo.com/forum/
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: ROGUE-Master on February 15, 2004, 11:04:39 AM
YES!!!! So that means the public will get it SOMETIME THIS YEAR!! YESSSSS!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: eFishie on February 15, 2004, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: ROGUE-Master on February 15, 2004, 11:04:39 AM
YES!!!! So that means the public will get it SOMETIME THIS YEAR!! YESSSSS!

So positive, I think it's improving my morale!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Acf on February 15, 2004, 02:28:24 PM
hehe so we can assume that will be released this year :P
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Brian Lacy on February 15, 2004, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: ROGUE-Master on February 15, 2004, 11:04:39 AM
YES!!!! So that means the public will get it SOMETIME THIS YEAR!! YESSSSS!

No doubt, in keeping with tradition, we'll have it by Christmas. ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ash Severns on February 15, 2004, 02:52:49 PM
Quote from: Brian Lacy on February 15, 2004, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: ROGUE-Master on February 15, 2004, 11:04:39 AM
YES!!!! So that means the public will get it SOMETIME THIS YEAR!! YESSSSS!

No doubt, in keeping with tradition, we'll have it by Christmas. ;)

lmao...

This is what we've all been waiting for...It's coming...YES!!!!

/me blows up
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: bostasp on February 15, 2004, 03:02:15 PM
Oh dear...

/me tries to put Ash Severns back together before the beta is made public.

Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Oldiesmann on February 15, 2004, 04:30:27 PM
I can't wait for the first public beta to be released!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Cccddd on February 16, 2004, 02:35:45 AM
well if you get bored, you can go look at my music database mod that I have been working on...

http://music.nrrds.com
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Martje on February 16, 2004, 05:03:57 AM
 :) very cool mod Cheschire , would be good for movies to
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Justyne on February 16, 2004, 05:51:26 AM
okay... my comments:

#1

It is so much faster. Posting, accessing sites. Whooooohoooo. Well done.

#2

Finally the permission center isn't such a pain anymore. This rocks.

#3

Very impressed with template system. This comes really handy and I find it much more understandable and less likely to F*** up than the way it was done in YabbSE. I just made two templated after the new standart and it was much nicer to do than ever before.

Congrats on that one.

#4

The calendar data did not get converted right. I had to delete all my events and post them again. Assume the upgraded.php made an error?

#5

Like the individual stats for every user being accessibly from the profile. Neat ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: olger901 on February 16, 2004, 09:00:12 AM
Wicked Sick! Cant wait till it goes public!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: [Unknown] on February 16, 2004, 02:49:16 PM
If anyone is having trouble with their calendar data, please send me a copy of your calendar and calendar_holidays tables..... the ones that are messed up.  If you have working ones from -3.1415 they would help to.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Cccddd on February 16, 2004, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: maime on February 16, 2004, 05:03:57 AM
:) very cool mod Cheschire , would be good for movies to

You know I thought about that actually... If I get to the point where I am very happy with how this database works, I was thinking about expanding it into movies, books, etc. A media database if you will...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Martje on February 16, 2004, 06:01:12 PM
great , a media database, I can sure see some use for it.  I think you would have a very powerfull mod there  :D

I will think how to come up with a reason to implement the music database to my site, before my next staff meeting... a hostel and a musicdatabase.... hmmm why not ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Aaron Nelsen on February 16, 2004, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: Cheschire on February 16, 2004, 02:35:45 AM
well if you get bored, you can go look at my music database mod that I have been working on...

http://music.nrrds.com

I like it! Would there be anyway to set it up so forum members could add data? (That way I don't have to do it all myself  :P)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Cccddd on February 17, 2004, 12:40:58 AM
yep. i just set it up with SMF permissions yesterday, and now its just a matter of going through and sectioning off parts of the admin page so that you can give certain groups only the ability to edit lyrics, and give other members the ability to add everything.

There are two pages, admin and view.

The view page has 2 permissions right now, and will have 3 permissions before hte next release. Right now it's View, which controls access to the page. The other is Rate, which allows users to rate items on a 5 star system. The next permission to be added will be reviewing, when I add the ability to write full text reviews of items in the database.

The admin page will have modify, add, and delete rights. if you have any those, then you will be allowed to access the admin page but only for those rights that you have.

btw sorry to anyone who tried to view it today. I turned off access while i was working on it. I didnt want anyone trying to rate things and destroying the whole database ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Martje on February 17, 2004, 06:59:15 PM
tought of another thing you could do with your mod :D

building a database of cool free and opensource proggies :)
I think this mod has a lot of potential ;D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Aaron Nelsen on February 17, 2004, 07:12:04 PM
Quote from: Cheschire on February 17, 2004, 12:40:58 AM
yep. i just set it up with SMF permissions yesterday, and now its just a matter of going through and sectioning off parts of the admin page so that you can give certain groups only the ability to edit lyrics, and give other members the ability to add everything.

There are two pages, admin and view.

The view page has 2 permissions right now, and will have 3 permissions before hte next release. Right now it's View, which controls access to the page. The other is Rate, which allows users to rate items on a 5 star system. The next permission to be added will be reviewing, when I add the ability to write full text reviews of items in the database.

The admin page will have modify, add, and delete rights. if you have any those, then you will be allowed to access the admin page but only for those rights that you have.

Sounds sweet, can't wait to see it *grin*
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Cccddd on February 17, 2004, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: maime on February 17, 2004, 06:59:15 PM
tought of another thing you could do with your mod :D

building a database of cool free and opensource proggies :)
I think this mod has a lot of potential ;D

Yeah what I may end up doing is making it a REALLY generalized mod, where the admin will choose the columns, what they are called, what data is entered into each column, the size of the column, etc.

The music one is coming along nicely as it is, and it has a lot of details that would not fit into the generalized mod i mentioned above, however both mods are useful.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: ukr on February 23, 2004, 04:24:01 AM
Quote from: 01001101 01100101 on February 17, 2004, 07:12:04 PM

Sounds sweet, can't wait to see it *grin*

seems many people feel like this.  I really can not understand why announcements are being made that the Forums at YaBB SE will be closing when simple machines is not even released.  All of our forums run YaBB but we can not bother doing development work until we see what simple machines will do.   There is no way we can see if we wish to stay as we are or go for the change and the delay after delay is really just not acceptable.

Please set a date and let us all get on with the rest of our lives and tasks.  Oh and yes I do appreciate the effort that goes into making free programs but I do not like the eliteism that seems to run with SM, some of us just can NOT afford to become charter members especially at such a late stage!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Chris Cromer on February 23, 2004, 04:27:23 AM
They are just giving advanced notice to YaBBSE being closed down, which in my opinion is better than just taking it down suddenly and nobody know what is going on. SMF will be released soon, so it isn't like they are just cutting off YaBBSE with no alternatives.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: bostasp on February 23, 2004, 04:27:25 AM
Well, considering SMF is in it's final Charter beta before being released for public beta. They've said that YaBB SE is closing on the 31st March.

Maybe they're confident that there will be a public release by then?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Louis on February 23, 2004, 07:22:29 AM
Quote from: ukr on February 23, 2004, 04:24:01 AM
seems many people feel like this.  I really can not understand why announcements are being made that the Forums at YaBB SE will be closing when simple machines is not even released.  All of our forums run YaBB but we can not bother doing development work until we see what simple machines will do.   There is no way we can see if we wish to stay as we are or go for the change and the delay after delay is really just not acceptable.

even when YABSSE is closed down you still have a good product up and running: there haven't been many bugs reported around the 1.5.5 (except the post.php one) - so don't worry too much about that. I am quite sure that there will still be a couple of helpful hands for yabbse around, regardless whether the official website is closed down or not.

If SMF can convince me, I will move - if not, I will stay with yabbse.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Jeff Lewis on February 23, 2004, 08:40:19 AM
I don't understand what the big deal is, if it bothers you that much, think of SMF as YaBB SE 2.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Grudge on February 23, 2004, 08:46:29 AM
True. you could even apply the Classic YABB SE Theme and people would never see the difference, visually at least...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Louis on February 23, 2004, 09:17:20 AM
Actually I am not bothered at all - as long as I have an easy upgrade I don't care if it is yabbse or smf (or any other forum with similar functionalities).
But I can understand that some people might be  worried about the future of their highly modded yabbse boards......

Anyway, I am waiting for the public launch of SMF to have a look 8)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Grudge on February 23, 2004, 09:20:56 AM
Well - considering several popular MOD's are included into SMF and nearly all other big mods were written by people who are either members of the development/mod development team or are forum members here I expect to see most big MOD's to come out fairly soon (hell there are even about 10 MOD's available in the charter area)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: pulpitfire on February 23, 2004, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: ukr on February 23, 2004, 04:24:01 AM
...All of our forums run YaBB but we can not bother doing development work until we see what simple machines will do.   There is no way we can see if we wish to stay as we are or go for the change and the delay after delay is really just not acceptable...

one way you can see what SMF will do, is by perusing this forum, and testing it's features.  for admins, from what i've heard, it's highly customizeable through features like "the new template system", so that you may not need all kinds of mods to get what you want out of it. 

in the mean-time, i'm still hacking away at my 1.5.4.  any experience you get from that will benefit you in the long run.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Cccddd on February 23, 2004, 09:31:36 PM
Okay, one of the big differences between YSE and SMF is the themes. This is a big generalization but imagine going through all of YSE, and taking out the html and page code, and moving it to a theme directory, and giving people the option of which directory to pull the html from. next, fix all the big security holes in YSE, and add a permission system that is more powerful than any other forum software out there. Those are just some generalizations of what has changed, but its like comparing a Playstation 2 with a Playstation. The pieces are compatible but its the new stuff thats really impressive.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: figmentium on February 25, 2004, 01:38:21 PM
Hi there! I'm really excited to try out the beta. I signed up for the charter membership yesterday. Just wondering how long it takes to get added so i can download the new forum? ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: pulpitfire on February 25, 2004, 01:39:47 PM
it takes only until Jeff manually updates you, and that varies, depending on when he is online, etc.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Jeff Lewis on February 25, 2004, 09:19:04 PM
Sorry for anyone waiting a long time lately, the notification emails haven't been coming through. If you end up waiting a day just PM me and I can flip the switch for anyone.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Cccddd on February 25, 2004, 10:07:36 PM
you may want to post a new thread about that :o
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: zxbbs on March 02, 2004, 04:31:52 AM
how can I get a picec of the source code of SMF
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Chris Cromer on March 02, 2004, 05:20:18 AM
Well there are 2 ways... buy a charter membership... or wait for it to be released to the public.

Either that or I would to say know a developer or admin here or something like that. ;D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: GameDemand on March 05, 2004, 01:13:06 AM
Hey gang - I'm the new kid here and still relatively uninformed.  I have yabbse and since it is for my business, decided it was smarter to move to SMF for the long term.

I signed up for a charter membership but cannot seem to find the download.  Help a gnoob out will ya?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: [Unknown] on March 05, 2004, 01:14:40 AM
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6418.0

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: GameDemand on March 05, 2004, 01:17:13 AM
Thanks Unknown!  (hopes the link is what i think it is)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: [Unknown] on March 05, 2004, 01:18:08 AM
Quote from: Toysmith on March 05, 2004, 01:17:13 AM
Thanks Unknown!  (hopes the link is what i think it is)

Sorry man, not quite.  But at least it's an explanation... nothing I can do right now to fix it, though.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: GameDemand on March 05, 2004, 01:20:41 AM
Well I saw that but I got a letter acknowleging payment so I kinda figured the download stuff was just buried somewhere.  I dropped a note to Jeff though since thats what he says to do in that thread.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Tyris on March 05, 2004, 02:03:37 AM
As Jeff is Canadian and does each charter activation my hand, you can probably expect it to be activated in about 4 to 6 hours (because thats when he will be waking up)... of course that is providing he does it when he wakes up... but it shouldnt be too long anyway.

Hope you enjoy your charter membership ^^
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 09, 2004, 11:33:23 AM
Hmmm...

Time since last Charter Member Release: 24 days
Time until YaBB SE board closes: 22 days

So, since SMF will be out before the YaBB SE board closes (most likely several days before then), I would say that SMF should be here sometime in the next week or two... :P
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ben_S on March 09, 2004, 12:33:11 PM
Unless as someone mentioned smf is just one big april fools joke.

;D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Cccddd on March 09, 2004, 01:09:30 PM
yeah this is all just a new theme laid on top of vbulliten 3
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 10, 2004, 08:34:08 AM
Quote from: Ben_S on March 09, 2004, 12:33:11 PM
Unless as someone mentioned smf is just one big april fools joke.

;D

Funny... sort of
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Acf on March 10, 2004, 12:04:28 PM
Quote from: Cheschire on March 09, 2004, 01:09:30 PM
yeah this is all just a new theme laid on top of vbulliten 3

i new it :'( d@mn if been had :P