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SMF Development => Feature Requests => Applied or Declined Requests => Aiheen aloitti: gri - joulukuu 24, 2005, 04:34:08 IP

Otsikko: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: gri - joulukuu 24, 2005, 04:34:08 IP
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Lainaus käyttäjältä: just a special section for main grivitiniks:
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ">> (grivitinik)url=http://over.lux-mundi.co.uk/night/index.php?topic=52.msg80#msg80]gri in ~Keep the grivitonics coming~[/url]"]

    Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
<< (grivitoutik) http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=62124.msg430117#msg430117
}
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People live
            and die.

The same with forums.

In result
          the grivitonics die.

If an Author of the dead grivitonics
      is not yet destroyed by moderation

   he can restore the original posts on the planet
      and modify/remove the dead grivitoutiks/grivitiniks.

      He can patch the holes in grivitation space of the Earth.

I am darning now..

                   For example,
this post contains a dead grivitoutik
>> http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=58229.msg407340#msg407340 .

Oldiesmann,

Move all Locked topics
     containing my posts
     to the Board with Permissions:
{
Post replies to topics
                      Own topic: Allowed
                      Any topic: Not allowed

Modify replies to own topics:    Allowed

Lock topics:                     Not allowed
}


Add a Permission option

Take a quote:                    Always Allowed
.

   "Reply"     ,      "Modify"     ,     "Take Quote"
           
    are               different          things.


    RETURN BACK THE KEYS FOR THE LOCKED THREAD !

> http://agreetogri.newmail.ru/return-back.htm <


ps.

In any case create a Board with the mentioned set of permissions
and Allow Authors to Move their topics
   among the predefined list of Boards.

Begin with me.
I am awared about the error of the ability to move a topic
to the Board with the Permission
       "Move topic Own topic: Not allowed"

and of the inability to move it back

and I will not move my topics to other Boards
                              than for..  Located mooviks.

Lainaus käyttäjältä: ">> (grivitinik)url=http://www.simplemachinesforum.org/community/index.php?topic=101.msg710#msg710]>> gri in ~Moving in allowed space~ date=1130946729[/url]"]
I will have to _copy_ this request to the original forum.
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: Ben_S - joulukuu 24, 2005, 08:50:27 IP
Any chance you can repost this without all the needless random spaces so people may be able to read it?
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: gri - joulukuu 24, 2005, 09:15:16 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Ben_S - joulukuu 24, 2005, 08:50:27 IP
Any chance
                   you can repost this
                                                  without all the needless random spaces
                                so people may be able
to read it
?

Peopleliveanddie.Thesamewithforums.Inresultthegrivitonicsdie.IfanAuthorofthedeadgrivitonicsisnotyetdestroyedbymoderationhecanrestoretheoriginalpostsontheplanetandmodify/removethedeadgrivitoutiks/grivitiniks.Canpatchtheholesingrivitationspace.Iamdarningnow..Forexample,thispostcontainsadeadgrivitoutik>>http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=58229.msg407340#msg407340.Oldiesmann,MoveallLockedtopicscontainingmypoststotheBoardwithPermissions:{PostrepliestotopicsOwntopic:AllowedAnytopic:NotallowedModifyrepliestoowntopics:AllowedLocktopics:Notallowed}AddaPermissionoptionTakeaquote:AlwaysAllowed."Reply","Modify","Take Quote"aredifferentthings.RETURNBACKTHEKEYSFORTHELOCKEDTHREAD!>http://agreetogri.newmail.ru/return-back.htm<ps.InanycasecreateaBoardwiththementionedsetofpermissionsandAllowAuthorstoMovetheirtopicsamongthepredefinedlistofBoards.Beginfromme.IamawaredabouttheerroroftheabilitytomoveatopictotheBoardwiththePermission"MovetopicOwntopic:Notallowed"andoftheinabilitytomoveitbackandwillnotmovemytopicstootherBoardsthanfor..mooviks.
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: 1MileCrash - joulukuu 24, 2005, 10:08:00 IP
ok, ill take a crack at it:

any chance you can make your post make sense?
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: Thantos - joulukuu 25, 2005, 12:26:32 AP
I think he wants us to lock this topic.  I for one am willing to do that for him.
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: gri - joulukuu 25, 2005, 02:05:35 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Tippmaster - joulukuu 24, 2005, 10:08:00 IP
ok, ill take a crack at it:

any chance you can make your post make sense?

Tippmaster,
There is an example of such a Board
<< http://over.lux-mundi.co.uk/night/index.php?board=3.0 .

The topics are not Locked there.
But I have set (at least have tried)
to set the permissions that the Users who are not the Author of the topic
can not Reply to a topic
but can modify their posts
in case the the Author move the common topic
from any other common Board -> to the mentioned Board.

Please check if it works.

Thank you.

ps.
I will be back in a few hours.
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: JayBachatero - joulukuu 25, 2005, 02:22:55 AP
Gri if you give us reason to lock, edit, or remove a topic we will do it.  Just like you trying to do now.  I guess you can keep on calling us monkeys as you always do.  If you give me or anyone else on the team reason to delete your topic we will not hesitate to do so.  Alsoif you keep on posting the way you do it will be removed.  I suggest that you start posting like a regular human being.  I don't think you're from outer space and you have soe common sense so please use it.  That's all that I have to say for now.  So please from now on post like everyone else

EDIT: Re-worded this sentence.  If you give me or anyone else on the team to delete your topic we will not hesitate to do so.

-JayBachatero
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: Sheepy - joulukuu 25, 2005, 05:23:12 AP
I, too, found Gri's posts difficult to read, faint everytime I saw staircase lines, and have secrectly prayed more then once that someone will help - or stop - Gri.

However, I've to say that it has improved a lot - at least for this topic - that for first time I find Gri's posts easy enough to read to be able to spare my mind admiring how Gri arranged and aligned the text.

Still, it doesn't change the fact that Gri is requesting the same thing again... sigh.

First, Gri, I think that topic lock is not only for the purpose of preventing reply, but also for preventing users from deleting or modifying posts in the topic.  So in the context of such a lock, reply and modify and delete are all the same - to violate the stasis state of a topic.

Second, it is possible to quote from a locked topic. You just have to specify the correct poster, topic and message, right?
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: Grudge - joulukuu 25, 2005, 06:36:08 AP
Sheepy,

If that is indeed what he is requesting that actually sounds correct. If you want to edit/delete a post in a locked topic it should *only* let you if you have permission to lock - I think that's sensible?
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: Trekkie101 - joulukuu 25, 2005, 07:41:17 AP
Simple Machines are the Monkeys!

I suppose only the project managers can really explain, but its a rather amusing joke.

It's to do with the way this server is configured, a nameserver perhaps, its in all the mail thats sent as a hop.

http://monkey.lewismedia.com

Happy Christmas, I wouldn't take the monkey thing too serious.
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: gri - joulukuu 25, 2005, 08:32:44 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Sheepy - joulukuu 25, 2005, 05:23:12 AP
I, too, found Gri's posts difficult to read,
faint everytime I saw staircase lines,
and have secrectly prayed more then once
that someone will help - or stop - Gri.

However, I've to say that it has improved a lot -
at least for this topic - that for first time I find Gri's posts
easy enough to read to be able to spare my mind
admiring how Gri arranged and aligned the text.

Still, it doesn't change the fact that Gri
is requesting the same thing again... sigh.

First, Gri, I think that topic lock
is not only for the purpose of preventing reply,
but also for preventing users from deleting
or modifying posts in the topic.

So in the context of such a lock,
reply and modify and delete are all the same -
to violate the stasis state of a topic.

Second, it is possible to quote from a locked topic.
You just have to specify the correct poster,
topic and message, right?

^Above it was preprocessing..
Further - replies:

First,
Where is an option in SMF
for the purpose of preventing others' replies only ?

I.e. for the purpose of defending a human being BASIC right

~t o  s p e a k  c o n t i n u o u s l y  a s  a  o n e  t h o u g h t~.

Second,
the quote should be accessible by both users and guests..

                                       in a one click

regardless of the current.. ~drawing~ by the Author of his

~ c o n t i n u o u s  o n e  o r  m o r e  t h o u g h t s ~.


These are simultaneous processes:

~ t h i n k i n g  o f  o n e  p e r s o n s ~
~ s p e a k i n g  o f  t h e  o t h e r  p e r s o n s ~
~ d i s c u s s i n g  b y  t h e  t h i r d  p e r s o n s ~

~ d e v e l o p i n g  t h e  p r o g r a m s..  toshutdownthehumanity.~

Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: gri - joulukuu 25, 2005, 10:50:13 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Grudge - joulukuu 25, 2005, 06:36:08 AP
If that is indeed what he is requesting
           that actually sounds correct.
If you want to edit/delete a post in a locked topic
it should *only* let you if you have permission to lock -
                                I think that's sensible?

After moving the topic to the special Board
             with much more Free sets of permissions
             than were suggested by the original SMF program..

the topic becomes correctly
                  Located (@Copyright2004 G.A.Antchugov)
                  in the grivitation space of permissions.

Defended by grivitation itself
            the Located topic does not need any Lock atavism embodied -

now the border of the provided rights is defined not by Locking
                      which paradoxically did not distinguished
                                 even the Author of the topic..
    but by the feature of relativity of a User
               to the Author's congenial group.

Hence
~If you want to edit/delete your post in a Located topic -
                just do it.
                Located topic is not the Locked topic.~

~If you want to post a new post to a Located topic -
                just be in Author's _topic-buddy_ group.
                Located topic is not the Locked topic..
                        for the topic-group members.~

     
On the contrary,
if to speak about any still Locked topic
                  (regardless of its Location) -

unfortunately
~If you want to modify/reply your own post in your own locked topic
it will *only* let you if you have permission..
                               to UNlock it first !~

By the way, I have tired to repeat since last year

            that it is impossible to read in the removed topic..

            about the fact that the Locked topic in general

            does not prevent from deleting the post from it..
            So there is no any sense to disallow modifying.


It is not necessary to speak about monkeys on the planet.
It is quite enough to install SMF program.. to see truth.


Just follow grivitoutiks included.
Otsikko: Re: Moving against Locking. Movement against Locked Ment.
Kirjoitti: dtm.exe - joulukuu 25, 2005, 11:50:08 AP
          gri,
          I just thought I'd let you know that this seems like a good idea
                    for a feature
          At the moment, it's being considered for the final version of SMF 1.1.
                              Keep the grivitonics coming :D.