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Title: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 01:35:43 PM
after installing the bridge, and playing around a bit to wrapp the forum in a right way, and doing some thing on both tamplates, to fit it for my site, now i cant login  to joomla anymore, i have try things for long, i just cant log in - now i am very helpless, if someone has an idee on this case, please help me
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 01:38:35 PM
SMF version?

Bridge version?

URL?
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 01:59:02 PM
o sorry,  i thought it was clear,

i am using both newest versions i think, sure i am with smf -  i have SMF 1.1 RC2,
and the bridge i have here from the forum, that tread: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=63182.msg437091#msg437091 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=63182.msg437091#msg437091) 

http://harekrischna.de/home (http://harekrischna.de/home)

http://harekrischna.de/forum (http://harekrischna.de/forum)
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 02:06:22 PM
Go here:

http://www.harekrischna.de/home/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,75/

Logout, and then login again.

If you login here:

http://harekrischna.de/forum

It will not log you into Joomla.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 02:41:23 PM
AGIAN I HAVE TRY A LOT OF THINGS to log in, i cant,
i only have find out - that i now can login to smf - with my joomla passwort, but i cant enter my joomla admin space,
whot is my right passwort now, that from joomla or that from smf, in smf i can enter with both, in joomla i can not enter with both,
i have try your way ....
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 02:43:39 PM
When you installed Joomla and SMF, did you make sure your Joomla admin username and password matched your SMF username and password?
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 02:59:15 PM
no i dit not read some think about that, i have different names and passwords,
but if you think that is the problem, i can enter my database - to change that or not_?
actually the smf was converted from  phpBB-  and i took my password over
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
They will need to be the same.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 03:14:16 PM
also the email adress_?
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 03:16:02 PM
That would be best.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 04:35:37 PM
I DONT GET IT together, if you can tell me how to make the user_names and passwords the same _?

in the DB the username is like this: cf421ce0dfa0d350679fab9f69fb2b087ab8e8bf ... so i am not sure if i can change anything there_?

and also from where do i have to enter the joomla_admin , above you are writing to make it here: http://www.harekrischna.de/home/ (http://www.harekrischna.de/home/)  edit by me later

but how can i go from there in the joomla admin_anyway
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 04:40:34 PM
Quotein the DB the username is like this: cf421ce0dfa0d350679fab9f69fb2b087ab8e8bf ... so i am not sure if i can change anything there_?

That looks like an MD5 hash, which would be your password, not your username.

Quoteand also from where do i have to enter the joomla_admin , above you are writing to make it here: http://www.harekrischna.de/home/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,75/

Your Joomla admin panel is here:

http://www.harekrischna.de/home/administrator

But, in order to migrate your SMF information into your Joomla database, it is advisable to login on the wrapped forum.  That will force your password into your Joomla database.  Going to your profile in SMF, and changing your password will also have that same effect.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: brother7 on January 14, 2006, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
They will need to be the same.

Is this documented anywhere?  This is the first time that I've heard that when doing the initial install of Joomla and SMF that they need to be the same.  I use Joomla + SMF + CPG and when I do the initial install, I use the names 'admin' for Joomla, 'adminsmf' for SMF and 'admincpg' for Coppermine.  I bridge everything together and for the Orstio bridge, I choose 'use SMF registration'.  I use 'adminsmf' as my primary login, except when doing Joomla admin stuff, in which case I must use 'admin'.

Does that sound ok?  Or have I messed up something by not choosing the same username/pw for Joomla and SMF?
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Kindred on January 14, 2006, 04:55:39 PM
I don't know that it is documented anywhere, because it seems like fairly basic logic to me...

If you want to be able to login as joomla and SMF admin, both the admin users for joomla and smf NEED to be the same...  Otherwise you have one user who is an admin in SMF and a regular user in Joomla and a second user sho is a regular user in SMF and an admin in Joomla...
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 05:01:47 PM
QuoteIs this documented anywhere?  This is the first time that I've heard that when doing the initial install of Joomla and SMF that they need to be the same.  I use Joomla + SMF + CPG and when I do the initial install, I use the names 'admin' for Joomla, 'adminsmf' for SMF and 'admincpg' for Coppermine.  I bridge everything together and for the Orstio bridge, I choose 'use SMF registration'.  I use 'adminsmf' as my primary login, except when doing Joomla admin stuff, in which case I must use 'admin'.

Does that sound ok?  Or have I messed up something by not choosing the same username/pw for Joomla and SMF?

It is OK, as long as you are aware that adminsmf won't get you into the Joomla admin panel, and admin won't get you into the SMF admin panel.  Most people get confused by this, because they assume that the bridge somehow magically knows what name they chose in the other system, and a single login will somehow magically log them into both despite the fact that their usernames and passwords are different.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 05:11:27 PM
that dos not help me to mutch,

the must be the same in my case anyway -  because i can login smf - with that from joomla, it came in the DB while install of the bridge,
i do realy think that this is not the problem,

if i try to login from here: . http://www.harekrischna.de/    (http://www.harekrischna.de/)   edit by ne later .. after it goes out of the wrapp,
so i dont think the data can go in the joomla_database, there must be some think wrong,

also as i try to change some thing in my profil of smf (not_wrappt) there was no asking of reconcile my password, that was not like this before



Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 05:16:11 PM
I have registered on your site.  Please approve my membership so I can do some testing.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 05:22:02 PM
i did; shall i give you admin:rights_?
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 05:31:47 PM
No, that's alright.

Is there anything in your SMF error log?

Do you have SMF and Joomla in seaparate databases?
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 05:42:36 PM
all this :::::


i have moved the error log here
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Kindred on January 14, 2006, 07:14:21 PM
for that SA error, see the fix Orstio suggested for me...

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=65654.msg454106#msg454106
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 14, 2006, 07:20:36 PM
I see you are using SMF registration. 

In your Joomla admin panel, what is the value of this:

Allow User Registration:

Also, you mentioned converting from phpBB.  Did you have the phpBB integration component installed?
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 14, 2006, 07:58:32 PM
so i did the fix,

my smf is working for more than 30 days, after converting from phpBB and i did not have the integr. component installed, it was stand_allone if i understand you right_?

i was not finish with the config of the bridge, i did just some first steps, yes i took to SMF registration, but i do not remember that i did some thing with the User Registration, so i dont know,

sorry my english is soooo bad
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 15, 2006, 04:51:27 AM
a point is:  for all, {admin and user} after login and logout, the smf_forum goes out of the joomla_wrapp,
by using it just normaly, browsing threads and so, it stands in the wrapp,

and also by delete a user (from the smf_admin) that user (data), still stands in the database _usertable of joomla
and by gegistration it dont writ all thing in that table, this is always: registerDate, it stands: 0000-00-00 00:00:00, and some time also:  name and username it is just amty, for some users

if that helps you to help me_!

edit after some time ---

i have try different things again and again,  and i have come to the pont after login, it stands in the wrapp, still i do not get access to my joomla admin space,

if noone has a solution, please tell me, how i can deinstall - the bridge - without destroing everything, i have to work on my joomla site
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Kindred on January 15, 2006, 08:30:48 AM
well, I am confused as to the problems you are having... but to uninstall, just delete the 2 components, and the module and remove the forum menu item...
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 15, 2006, 03:37:54 PM
after delete - of all this, i still can not go into my joomla_admin,
but this was clear to me bevor, thats why i was asking here,
the bridge_install_routine, - has make some changes in the joomla core files and database - that dont go back just by delete some files from the server, if i am wrong please correct me
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 15, 2006, 05:08:39 PM
Quotethe bridge_install_routine, - has make some changes in the joomla core files and database - that dont go back just by delete some files from the server, if i am wrong please correct me

No.  This bridge changes nothing in the Joomla core.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Kindred on January 15, 2006, 05:29:48 PM
and note... you don't actually want to just delete the files on your server.   You want to use the uninstall routine in Joomla.

(also you will have to remove the code from the joomla template, by hand.)
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 15, 2006, 06:24:50 PM
Quote from: Kindred on January 15, 2006, 05:29:48 PM
and note... you don't actually want to just delete the files on your server.   You want to use the uninstall routine in Joomla.


you are funny people, just think about! - the whole thread is about:  i can not enter my joomla_admin, do you not see that i have a serious problem
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 15, 2006, 06:33:26 PM
Quoteyou are funny people, just think about! - the whole thread is about:  i can not enter my joomla_admin, do you not see that i have a serious problem

Here is the nature of your problem:

When you installed Joomla and SMF, you used different usernames and passwords for the admin accounts.

For some reason, you thought that SMF would somehow magically know your Joomla admin account, and let you login to SMF with it.

This, of course, causes a great deal of confusion, and you now don't know what password or username to use to login to your Joomla admin panel.

Does that sound about right?

Fixing it at this point is not easy.  I would fix it for you, but I have no way of being certain that your confusion would not cause the same thing to happen yet again.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 15, 2006, 07:19:35 PM
Quote from: Orstio on January 15, 2006, 06:33:26 PM
I have no way of being certain that your confusion would not cause the same thing to happen yet again.

if you can fix it - there will be also a way - to not get the same problem again, and also - it is sure - not just a problem mixing up my passwords, i am dealing with passwords about 5 years, i always find my right passwords,

but yes, now there is a lot confusion - because i have try a lot of things, if you can fix it - please tell me - what i have to do now, i can give you any access
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 15, 2006, 08:36:39 PM
PM me with access to your site's cPanel.  I will fix it for you, but only once.
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: baladeva on January 16, 2006, 06:53:26 PM
so i am back to joomla,  thank you a lot, do you think it will work now - with out problem,

and do you think it will work with an Assigned template_? do i have to pleace the smf_login_modul in order to run it,
can i change the password now_? oje - so many questions
Title: Re: cant login in joomla
Post by: Orstio on January 16, 2006, 08:26:23 PM
Quoteand do you think it will work with an Assigned template_?

Yes, as long as you add the code from the readme.html to each template you are using.

Quotedo i have to pleace the smf_login_modul in order to run it,

You don't have to, but you would be best to have it published.

Quotecan i change the password now_?

Yes, but do so in SMF, not in Joomla.