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Title: Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 12, 2003, 09:50:03 PM
Alright, first this is going on the folder.... sorry.

Second, it will go on top of the following images:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Themes/default/images/thread/hotthread.gif
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Themes/default/images/thread/veryhotthread.gif
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Themes/default/images/thread/thread.gif
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Themes/default/images/thread/poll.gif

So - I have two requests.
1. I am not a graphic artist, so I need help designing the icon.
2. For the same reason, I cannot think of a good icon.  Some I've thught of/seen are:
- sound lines.
- glowing folder.
- bullhorn.
- + sign..
- different colored folder.
- folder with a paper in it.
- slightly tilted folder.

Have any suggestions?  Want to help?

If you're willing to do the graphics, please pm me.

If you have an idea for an icon, or like one of them better... please reply here.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Jack.R.Abbit™ on August 12, 2003, 10:33:41 PM
I think it would be interesting to see the glowing folders.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 12, 2003, 10:59:13 PM
a little red flag.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Jack.R.Abbit™ on August 13, 2003, 02:13:03 AM
Quote from: Joseph Fung on August 12, 2003, 10:59:13 PM
a little red flag.
hmmm.. interesting... I'd like to see that as well.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: alienine on August 13, 2003, 04:56:23 AM
I can see a problem with a little red flag... unless its in a column of its own.. the problem is there's so much stuff on these folder icons already.. a little red flag will just confuse the whole icon.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 13, 2003, 04:58:45 AM
That's actually why I didn't mention the possibility, even though I thought of it, of a red flag.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 13, 2003, 07:42:46 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on August 13, 2003, 04:58:45 AM
That's actually why I didn't mention the possibility, even though I thought of it, of a red flag.

-[Unknown]

Then how about following your different colour folder thing and just making the folders of read topic completely greyscale and/or more transparent?
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 13, 2003, 07:59:02 AM
is the old_sticky image still in use?
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 13, 2003, 08:11:48 AM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 13, 2003, 07:59:02 AM
is the old_sticky image still in use?
LOL I'd forgotten about that!
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: andrea on August 13, 2003, 08:40:56 AM
Dumb question: what means "thread participation". What exactly is the icon for?
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 13, 2003, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: andrea on August 13, 2003, 08:40:56 AM
Dumb question: what means "thread participation". What exactly is the icon for?
It's something we want to add to the icon to tell a user whether or not they have personally participated in a topic.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Ben_S on August 13, 2003, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 13, 2003, 07:59:02 AM
is the old_sticky image still in use?

I'v never even seen that
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: andrea on August 13, 2003, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: Joseph Fung on August 13, 2003, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: andrea on August 13, 2003, 08:40:56 AM
Dumb question: what means "thread participation". What exactly is the icon for?
It's something we want to add to the icon to tell a user whether or not they have personally participated in a topic.

Aha, thanks.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 13, 2003, 09:48:55 AM
hmm.. i was still posting about this subject in the original thread in "Feature Requests"... so this is actually a double post ;D

but i've made some icons, just let me know what you think..

Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: klumy on August 13, 2003, 10:36:03 AM
@Seph|roth

They are looking very good !!
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 13, 2003, 11:00:43 AM
very nice indeed :) the icons are very clear! 8)

maybe an eye or a pen icon could be used for participation...
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 13, 2003, 05:16:04 PM
I was very impressed by those, Seph|roth, but... they don't exactly *fit* this theme... somehow... :P.  They do look good though.

Well... a red flag *can* be used... or even the stupid (dumb imho) dot from vBulletin... I couldn't really care much less, I just need to get the icon ready.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 13, 2003, 05:47:28 PM
well, tell me what you'd like to see [Unknown], and i'll try to make something...

btw, note the size of my icons, they're 22x22... if I make them any smaller they would get too messy, so I hope that's not a prob...
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: David on August 13, 2003, 07:16:04 PM
For now lets stick with something on the current folders.  This doesn't mean a different theme won't have a different look.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 13, 2003, 08:17:53 PM
OK, something like this maybe?



I know the purple folders are a bit blurry, but I had to enlarge them from the original gif...

EDIT: hmm.. I just noticed an error on some icons on the bottom row.. i guess Fireworks made some pixels transparent, I'll fix it tomorrow evening.
EDIT2: On second thought, it doesn't look like something's wrong after all  ;D Just my imagination I guess...
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Tim on August 14, 2003, 05:55:20 AM
why not use an open and closed envelope?

open if you've participated, closed if you didn't?
Everyone uses folders...
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: chris on August 14, 2003, 06:18:40 AM
Quote from: Ben_S on August 13, 2003, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 13, 2003, 07:59:02 AM
is the old_sticky image still in use?

I'v never even seen that

This was my first design for the "Sticky" icon ;D
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on August 14, 2003, 06:34:51 AM
Quote from: Tim on August 14, 2003, 05:55:20 AM
why not use an open and closed envelope?

open if you've participated, closed if you didn't?
Everyone uses folders...
nice idea .. something like this .. may be  :D

Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Tim on August 14, 2003, 07:40:40 AM
envelope, there's a folder, and there are envelopes  ::) ;)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 14, 2003, 08:07:16 AM
Quote from: A.M.A on August 14, 2003, 06:34:51 AM
Quote from: Tim on August 14, 2003, 05:55:20 AM
why not use an open and closed envelope?

open if you've participated, closed if you didn't?
Everyone uses folders...
nice idea .. something like this .. may be  :D



Hey - I REALLY like that open folder and closed folder....very apt!
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Tom on August 14, 2003, 09:05:05 AM
Those look very nice! I think they would be very good.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 14, 2003, 09:26:11 AM
good idea open closed folders :)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Ben_S on August 14, 2003, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Christian Land on August 14, 2003, 06:18:40 AM
Quote from: Ben_S on August 13, 2003, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 13, 2003, 07:59:02 AM
is the old_sticky image still in use?

I'v never even seen that

This was my first design for the "Sticky" icon ;D

Did it ever get used?
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 14, 2003, 10:30:55 AM
it was used for a short while.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 14, 2003, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: Joseph Fung on August 14, 2003, 10:30:55 AM
it was used for a short while.

will it ever be used again?? :D
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: BiErLeEuW on August 14, 2003, 10:55:44 AM
@Seph|roth
nice button set! make it a button packet for download :)

@ the open enveloppe... would be also a good idea to use that
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 14, 2003, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 14, 2003, 10:33:02 AM
Quote from: Joseph Fung on August 14, 2003, 10:30:55 AM
it was used for a short while.

will it ever be used again?? :D
No clue - most likely not though
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 14, 2003, 12:21:53 PM
btw, since they're part of this theme and we know what the background colour will be - there's nothing preventing us from using anti-aliased images.

Just a note.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on August 14, 2003, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: Tim on August 14, 2003, 07:40:40 AM
envelope, there's a folder, and there are envelopes  ::) ;)
I know  :)  like IB
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 14, 2003, 04:51:09 PM
Question: where should the participation be added? to all the icons?
I am asking this question becaus hottreads are not include in to each icon.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 14, 2003, 05:32:34 PM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 14, 2003, 04:51:09 PM
Question: where should the participation be added? to all the icons?
I am asking this question becaus hottreads are not include in to each icon.

My first post says what icons I would like to incorporate this icon or change into.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 14, 2003, 05:35:18 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on August 14, 2003, 05:32:34 PM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 14, 2003, 04:51:09 PM
Question: where should the participation be added? to all the icons?
I am asking this question becaus hottreads are not include in to each icon.

My first post says what icons I would like to incorporate this icon or change into.

-[Unknown]

oeps sorry over looked it  :-[
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 14, 2003, 06:41:03 PM
Lets give it a try  :D

**removed**
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on August 14, 2003, 11:17:08 PM
another variants  :D


@acf I still cannot see any pics ???
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 15, 2003, 06:04:09 AM
Quote from: A.M.A on August 14, 2003, 11:17:08 PM
@acf I still cannot see any pics ???

Can you get in the dir??
http://www.thebasement.yabbsites.com/aliencowfarm/yabbse/tread_icons/SFX/
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on August 15, 2003, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 15, 2003, 06:04:09 AM
Quote from: A.M.A on August 14, 2003, 11:17:08 PM
@acf I still cannot see any pics ???

Can you get in the dir??
http://www.thebasement.yabbsites.com/aliencowfarm/yabbse/tread_icons/SFX/
yes I can but when choosing a pic I got Forbidden page!
with JAP it is ok tho, I guess it is our proxy casuing this!
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 15, 2003, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: A.M.A on August 15, 2003, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 15, 2003, 06:04:09 AM
Quote from: A.M.A on August 14, 2003, 11:17:08 PM
@acf I still cannot see any pics ???

Can you get in the dir??
http://www.thebasement.yabbsites.com/aliencowfarm/yabbse/tread_icons/SFX/
yes I can but when choosing a pic I got Forbidden page!
with JAP it is ok tho, I guess it is our proxy casuing this!

The htaccess disalowed direct requests (entering the url to an image in your browser)
Now you should be able to see the pics? (Iv allowed direct requests)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on August 15, 2003, 10:14:34 PM
now I can see .. thanks and they are really nice  :)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 15, 2003, 11:25:57 PM
Well... I'm really a fan of the small (16x16) icons... but that may just be me... (and really, I'm not the guy it's important to please here, but... whatever.)

I don't like the thinner looking folders... personally... and, although nice and original, the ones Aliencowfarm posted will never fit this theme...

As to the second set of purple ones from A.M.A, I don't want to get sued by M$ for the first ones, but the second ones look pretty nice - although skinny again.

I tried to take a shot at it...
Doesn't look that good, but they do look open, I think... except the poll one, which is why I made the second one..



And... this is the old blue set, but I think they can easily be "puplified" so to speak.. that is, if someone who actually was decent with graphics could mess with them...  I do think open might be enough to signify that you posted in it... not sure, but I think so..

I know they need a bit of work... but, does anyone think they are in the right direction?  Do they look like "participation" to you?

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 16, 2003, 01:30:35 AM
to be honest - I think the open and closed when it's that small is too subtle.  If it's that small I think we'd need a colour variation.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 16, 2003, 03:25:58 AM
Fari 'nough... that was exactly what I was asking.

Should they open and turn red?  Or is red to strong... should it be yellow?  A darker purple?

I don't joke when I say I know little to none about graphics.  I don't even dress well...

I know there are certain colors that go together... red/green, blue/orange, purple/yellow?  Should they turn yellow, then?

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Aquilo on August 16, 2003, 03:35:20 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on August 15, 2003, 11:25:57 PM


-[Unknown]

I gave them a messing with! ;D


:D and just for fun...

just if any one brings back the sticky icon ;)

Aquilo
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Aquilo on August 16, 2003, 03:39:49 AM
well I thought I could open a new post and make them :D :D

I think gray is a good contrasting color with purple... and just about any color :-\

I'll make some gray and yellow ones real quick...
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Aquilo on August 16, 2003, 04:01:53 AM
I got to get packing I get gray in a few, reverting to a gray scale is gona take a minute to get the pixels right.



first ones, just lining them up!
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 16, 2003, 04:18:45 AM
Cool!  I can't believe I actually helped!

So... is everyone cool with this?  Which looks better?

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 16, 2003, 07:19:56 AM
Quote from: Aquilo on August 16, 2003, 04:01:53 AM
I got to get packing I get gray in a few, reverting to a gray scale is gona take a minute to get the pixels right.



first ones, just lining them up!

i like them :), i like them even more if they where anti aliast :)

*acf
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: andrea on August 16, 2003, 07:59:24 AM
I like the colored version. For me its sufficient when the participated color is slightly different.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: morph on August 16, 2003, 10:43:31 AM
I like all of the colors  ;)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: David on August 16, 2003, 01:05:20 PM
I like the idea but they look to rough.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: klumy on August 16, 2003, 02:05:11 PM


the new icons looks good. I also like the folder idea. But I think the shades could be better like on this image. Maybe increase the colour depth of the icons?

Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 16, 2003, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: klumy on August 16, 2003, 02:05:11 PM


the new icons looks good. I also like the folder idea. But I think the shades could be better like on this image. Maybe increase the colour depth of the icons?



I don't like the gradient effects.  If you don't give it texture it looks ugly.  Doesn't fit with this forum...

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 17, 2003, 02:28:15 PM
another suggestion:



right one is for participation (duh)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: klumy on August 17, 2003, 02:30:08 PM
@Seph|roth

looks good.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Joseph on August 17, 2003, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 17, 2003, 02:28:15 PM
another suggestion:



right one is for participation (duh)
I really, really like those.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 17, 2003, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Joseph Fung on August 17, 2003, 06:36:06 PM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 17, 2003, 02:28:15 PM
another suggestion:



right one is for participation (duh)
I really, really like those.
Thank you!
I'll do some optimisation tomorrow (adjust the colors, ect. to make them look better in this theme) and make some of the other variations as well
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on August 17, 2003, 06:49:45 PM
@Seph|roth
I really like your Idea of placing the icons in front of the subject .. makes sense, less work (you need only one icon).
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 17, 2003, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: A.M.A on August 17, 2003, 06:49:45 PM
@Seph|roth
I really like your Idea of placing the icons in front of the subject .. makes sense, less work (you need only one icon).
Well, this wasn't quite my idea, AMA. Believe it was 's idea...

EDIT: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?threadid=359
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on August 17, 2003, 07:03:12 PM
still it is a good idea .. I saw your pic here (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?threadid=359;start=30) and I thought it was your idea .. sorry
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 17, 2003, 07:19:49 PM
Quote from: A.M.A on August 17, 2003, 07:03:12 PM
still it is a good idea .. I saw your pic here (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?threadid=359;start=30) and I thought it was your idea .. sorry
Ah, now i understand. In your post, you said "I really like your Idea of placing the icons in front of the subject .. makes sense, less work (you need only one icon). " I didn't read it correctly, and thought you were talking about the thread icon. So no need to be sorry, my mistake  ;)

But that idea has already been rejected, although it was my personal favorite too.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: andrea on August 20, 2003, 11:54:23 AM
Looking at the current participation icons I always thought that the shades are wrong in the yellow icons. Then I realized the yellow icons are open folders, the purple icons closed ones. I think its to much to have an opened folder and a different colour as well. It would be enough to have either an opened folder or alternatively the different color.

See attached image below.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 20, 2003, 01:49:19 PM
you're absolutely right... but hey, we can all change it ourselves when SMF comes out :P My hands are already itching to fire up Photoshop  ;D
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 20, 2003, 02:56:22 PM
argh :'( the dutch set doesn't have does nice "new" icons :(
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 20, 2003, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 20, 2003, 02:56:22 PM
argh :'( the dutch set doesn't have does nice "new" icons :(
Maybe that's because the dutch buttons are still the ones form YSE?  :D :o
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on August 21, 2003, 06:03:27 AM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 20, 2003, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 20, 2003, 02:56:22 PM
argh :'( the dutch set doesn't have does nice "new" icons :(
Maybe that's because the dutch buttons are still the ones form YSE?  :D :o

yep to bad ;)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 21, 2003, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 20, 2003, 01:49:19 PM
you're absolutely right... but hey, we can all change it ourselves when SMF comes out :P My hands are already itching to fire up Photoshop  ;D

My cent or two: making it yellow stands out, but isn't intuitive enough.  Making it open doesn't stand out, but is intuitive.  Making it do both is the best of the two worlds - intuitive AND it stands out.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: andrea on August 22, 2003, 02:16:09 AM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 21, 2003, 06:03:27 AM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 20, 2003, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: Aliencowfarm on August 20, 2003, 02:56:22 PM
argh :'( the dutch set doesn't have does nice "new" icons :(
Maybe that's because the dutch buttons are still the ones form YSE?  :D :o

yep to bad ;)

FYI guys: yesterday I started to translate the buttons. The german gifs were posted to [Unknown] some minutes ago. If that translation is feedbacked fine I will continue with more languages.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Amacythe on August 23, 2003, 02:47:17 AM
I'm horrible with graphics programs... but another idea could be a notepad and a notepad with a pencil.
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Aquilo on September 07, 2003, 06:28:17 AM
I don't know if they are going to be changed as well but I made the Exclamation point and Question Mark to look like the folders!

Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: andrea on September 07, 2003, 07:09:53 AM
These new ones are loads better than the old ones. Maybe another improvement would be to replace the outlined font type by normal bold type (such as in the huh smiley).
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on September 07, 2003, 07:46:06 AM
blinking would be funny :)

example:
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Owdy on September 07, 2003, 08:06:29 AM
Looks great Alien  :D
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Aquilo on September 07, 2003, 08:09:30 AM
thats pritty neat!
it the background fading to??
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: klumy on September 07, 2003, 08:11:08 AM
I like the questionmark icon, too ;)
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: A.M.A on September 07, 2003, 01:47:52 PM
both (Aquilo and ACF) look good.
@acf is that a drop shadow!
Title: Re:Best icon for thread participation?
Post by: Acf on September 07, 2003, 03:09:41 PM
yep it is why?? (my question mark does look ugly! it is not made to be used just trown together in hurry as an example)