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Simple Machines => News and Updates => Topic started by: [Unknown] on March 10, 2004, 03:13:14 PM

Title: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 10, 2004, 03:13:14 PM
As you may now notice on the download page, a public beta of SMF 1.0 is now available.  Please remember, most importantly, that this is a beta and not a stable release.  It should not be used in production unless you understand the risks and are willing to live with them.  There will be bugs and problems, and you may have to live with them for periods if you choose to use this in production.

That said, we would like to invite all of you to test this public beta, so that we can remove any bugs that may be in it.  Realize that we expect there to be bugs, and the purpose of a beta release is to facilitate finding and fixing all of them.  So, every bug fixed moves us that much closer to a stable, production worthy release.

Remember that we always listen to feature requests, bug reports, and questions about the code.  Code review is a wonderful and great part of any project like this.  For more information on how to get involved with SMF, please see the page about just that (http://www.simplemachines.org/get_involved.php).  But remember, sometimes what you think is a bug might not be what we think is a bug; sometimes you will want a feature we don't see as part of the distribution.  We still want you involved, and some of you can help even more by making packages, themes, and so forth for SMF.

While the modification system is something that is not yet complete in this beta, you will soon see the premiere of the mod site.  There, you will be able to download modifications and packages to apply to your install - easily adding, changing, or removing functionality as you want.  While we're deprecating the use of boardmod, please hold on while the package manager gets to its feet.

Please remember to read the license.  Even if you do not, you are bound by it and may not redistribute SMF or change/remove any displayed copyrights.  We will go after people who do not follow these terms, so if you are not willing to abide by them please do not use SMF.

It's important to note that this is a big change from YaBB SE.  While it may seem to work the same in many ways, one look at the code... one look at the templating system... should show you it is not at all the same.  Many settings and options have changed and been moved, and it is highly recommended that you play with a separate install or upgrade before upgrading your main forum - if you must, indeed, use it in production.  It will take you time to get used to where the new settings are, and it will take time to ask questions here.  If you prepare, you won't have to worry about emergencies later.

You can always find information posted here about things like installation (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6765.0), upgrade (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6832.0), and more.  As development continues, you will see more and more tutorials, FAQs, and manuals for SMF - this is just another part of development.

If you need any more help with anything to do with SMF, please do not hesitate to ask questions (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=9.0). And for those who need a little to get going, the downloads themselves are, of course, here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/download.php

Thank you for being a part of SMF,
Simple Machines
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 13, 2004, 09:17:57 PM
Woohoo! ;D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: b0$$ on March 13, 2004, 09:20:37 PM
yay! :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Henrik Samuelsson on March 13, 2004, 09:25:20 PM
Yiiipppiiiiiiiiiii   :D :D :D


Thanks too you all in SMF team

;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: warrior on March 13, 2004, 09:28:01 PM
yeah  ;D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: firewired on March 13, 2004, 09:28:32 PM
Got it and can't wait to try it -- congratulations guys!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: eFishie on March 13, 2004, 09:30:29 PM
@#&!!! YEAH!

Alright! I win!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Tyris on March 13, 2004, 09:32:41 PM
I waited for like 3 hours today... then went to play some RCT2 and it released when I was doing that!! ><
o well.. *dl'es look thru and installs*
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: madfiddler on March 13, 2004, 09:33:16 PM
Been waiting, and looking forward to :)

Thanks,

Mark.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: bostasp on March 13, 2004, 09:33:58 PM
Well, damn me. I missed the launch.

Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Ben_S on March 13, 2004, 09:34:04 PM
Damn it would be released at 2am :(

Oh wait I already got it ;D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Peter Duggan on March 13, 2004, 09:36:52 PM
Please make sure you're all backing up and, if possible, installing to a test location first.

NB I still haven't upgraded one of my boards to SMF at all yet, and my other live boards are running about two betas behind, so you don't *have* to do it tonight... ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: tarch on March 13, 2004, 09:45:41 PM
i got it!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: bostasp on March 13, 2004, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: Peter Duggan on March 13, 2004, 09:36:52 PM
Please make sure you're all backing up and, if possible, installing to a test location first.

NB I still haven't upgraded one of my boards to SMF at all yet, and my other live boards are running about two betas behind, so you don't *have* to do it tonight... ;)

Well, it's something to do... Especially with insomnia...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 13, 2004, 09:48:05 PM
finally! :D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: RogueGeek on March 13, 2004, 09:58:41 PM
installed over top of the Charter only beta and all is well. No probs.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Noah on March 13, 2004, 10:02:07 PM
I can't get it, Con someone give me the FULL link?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 13, 2004, 10:04:36 PM
Click on any download.

http://www.simplemachines.org/download.php

If it doesn't load, click the "if it doesn't load" link.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Noah on March 13, 2004, 10:06:05 PM
Where, I don't see any "if it doesn't load" link
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Mike O on March 13, 2004, 10:08:12 PM
here's a tip... be sure to 'tar -zxvf smf_1-0-beta4p_install.tar.gz' in a clean, new directory, as all files will be dropped into the PWD, not a subdirectory.  Luckily, I had a backup of my index.php for my own site, which I will now go restore...

Not that I am trying to place blame or anything, just want to let folks know.  Personally, most times when I untar/ungzip source, the resulting source is to be found in a new subdir of PWD, not PWD itself.

Thanks for the public beta release, and for the hard work.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 13, 2004, 10:09:02 PM
QuoteThank you for taking the time to download this product.  If the download hasn't already started, please try again.  Should you have any problems with it, please don't hesitate to look for a solution by going here.

The part I bolded for you is a link ;).

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Noah on March 13, 2004, 10:11:15 PM
its not a link :(
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Surfy on March 13, 2004, 10:12:58 PM
Nice release Time  :)

Bad that i have a full Programm for tomorrow, but at monday i`ll test it  :P

Many thanks @ the SMF-Team  ;)

Surfy
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 13, 2004, 10:48:07 PM
wow, its running very nice on my server now :D

Only im missing one thing...
the function that makes a board so that users cant start a new topic :O
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 13, 2004, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: XrD.nl on March 13, 2004, 10:48:07 PM
wow, its running very nice on my server now :D

Only im missing one thing...
the function that makes a board so that users cant start a new topic :O

Missing?  What did you do to the package you downloaded to take that out?

Or have you just not looked at permissions yet?

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 13, 2004, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: nwood on March 13, 2004, 10:11:15 PM
its not a link :(

*smacks self upside head*

Go to http://www.simplemachines.org/download.php
Click on the link for the file you want to download.
If it doesn't download, click on "try again" when you see the text that [Unknown] quoted.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 13, 2004, 10:51:05 PM
I checked permissions...
And I cant uncheck something wich is gonna disable the start a topic future :-|
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 13, 2004, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: XrD.nl on March 13, 2004, 10:51:05 PM
I checked permissions...
And I cant uncheck something wich is gonna disable the start a topic future :-|

In that case, I'll tell you how to do it:

To make a board so only administrators can post new topics in it:
First, click on Admin -> Edit Permissions.  Once there, scroll down to the list of boards.

There you shall see the board in question.  Please click the "local" link to the immediate left of its name.  The page should load, and now you will have a listing of groups under that board.

Click on "Modify" after "Ungrouped Members" there in that board's list.  Now find the "post new topics" permission, and  change it from "Allow" to "Deny".

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Valconeye on March 13, 2004, 10:54:26 PM
Its there XrD.nl The permission feature at first is a little scary, take the time to look it over, You will find it, Goto edit groups and permission (for private beta thats what it was) it should be in the same spot, right know im upgrading my forums!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Noah on March 13, 2004, 10:58:40 PM
I worked now :D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 13, 2004, 10:59:39 PM
Glad it worked for you nwood.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 13, 2004, 11:01:14 PM
About the subdirectory issue: due to the way things are packaged, this would be difficult unless you can tell me of a way to make zip, gzip, abnd bzip2 put things into a directory by default.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Maleveax on March 13, 2004, 11:08:57 PM
I tried to post a new topic and got this error.  I thought maybe something happened so i created a new catagory and still got the error.  Suggestions?

Not Found
The requested URL /index.php/board,2.0 was not found on this server.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.47 (Mandrake Linux/1.6.91mdk) mod_perl/1.99_08 Perl/v5.8.0 mod_ssl/2.0.47 OpenSSL/0.9.7a DAV/2 PHP/4.3.1 Server at www.darkmyths.net Port 80
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 13, 2004, 11:12:13 PM
I recommend you turn Queryless URLs back off since your server does not support them.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 13, 2004, 11:16:36 PM
aaah I found it ;)

Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Amacythe on March 13, 2004, 11:17:48 PM
Great timing for me :D

Thanks everyone :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 13, 2004, 11:18:23 PM
the upgrade says it requires yabbSE 1.5.4... is it working with 1.5.5 aswell?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 13, 2004, 11:19:58 PM
Yeah, minimum of 1.5.4... might work with lower, but not tested.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 13, 2004, 11:20:47 PM
thanx :)

**downloading :P**
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: 127.0.0.1 on March 13, 2004, 11:21:24 PM
very nice work boys.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jazhawk on March 13, 2004, 11:58:44 PM
YeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaa.  I finally get to check this out on my server.  Got it downloaded and, and, now what do I do?  :( 

Where is the install guide?

-Jazhawk
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: RoCKeT-88 on March 14, 2004, 12:01:49 AM
Hmm that was not what I expected .....very nice.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Douglas on March 14, 2004, 12:03:43 AM
Quote from: Jazhawk on March 13, 2004, 11:58:44 PM
YeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaa.  I finally get to check this out on my server.  Got it downloaded and, and, now what do I do?  :( 

Where is the install guide?
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=9.0  Enjoy!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Douglas on March 14, 2004, 12:04:07 AM
Aha!  Seems to be a slight bug with URL parsing.  ::runs off to Bug reports...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Douglas on March 14, 2004, 12:10:33 AM
Since the post that I made before the last one is actually a minor bug that's being fixed, here's the CLICKABLE URL.  :)

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=9.0
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: John R on March 14, 2004, 12:21:46 AM
Hey guy,

You have no idea how pleased I am to see that my favorite feature, the jump to box, has been included.  Awsome work!

cheers...............
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: adam on March 14, 2004, 01:17:29 AM
FINALLY!   :D :D :D  You Rock!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jazhawk on March 14, 2004, 01:48:57 AM
Quote from: Douglas on March 14, 2004, 12:03:43 AM
Quote from: Jazhawk on March 13, 2004, 11:58:44 PM
YeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaa.  I finally get to check this out on my server.  Got it downloaded and, and, now what do I do?  :( 

Where is the install guide?
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=9.0  Enjoy!

I got it up and running.  So far, I found a bug that won't allow me to upload my own avatar.

-Jazhawk
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 14, 2004, 01:51:21 AM
Quote from: Jazhawk on March 14, 2004, 01:48:57 AM
I got it up and running.  So far, I found a bug that won't allow me to upload my own avatar.

-Jazhawk

There are certain server requirements for such things; do attachments work?

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Lyric on March 14, 2004, 02:51:42 AM
Yeah!!! It's so great!!!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: DeadMetal on March 14, 2004, 03:00:04 AM
Great :)
At the moment my forums are running Supermod 2.04, which is based on YabbSE 1.55. Is it possible to upgrade my forums to SMF?
Supermod added some tables to the database and perhaps it also changed some existing tables.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: WM on March 14, 2004, 04:12:26 AM
Waiting is over, thanks all involved.

All I have say its looking sharp, and Whoa on the permissions, kind a confusing, but learning as I have a boring life so I have lots and lots of time too learn.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: klumy on March 14, 2004, 04:31:27 AM
thank you guys !!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Greg Robson on March 14, 2004, 04:36:45 AM
w00t!

Cool! Wicked! I have something meaningful to do this Sunday!

Can't wait to adjust the template so it fits in with the site redesign I'm doing at work. :)

I will give feedback later I'm sure.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: David on March 14, 2004, 04:38:04 AM
Great to see you around Greg. :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 14, 2004, 04:40:02 AM
Quote from: DeadMetal on March 14, 2004, 03:00:04 AM
Great :)
At the moment my forums are running Supermod 2.04, which is based on YabbSE 1.55. Is it possible to upgrade my forums to SMF?
Supermod added some tables to the database and perhaps it also changed some existing tables.

In theory, it should work.  While I have tested it, I haven't tested it exhaustively, or even in the last month.  I recommend you make a full backup (but I would recommend that anyway..) and try it.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Owdy on March 14, 2004, 04:40:17 AM
Yahooo!!! :D Good job devs! :D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Owdy on March 14, 2004, 04:53:58 AM
WHooo. This is fun. I cant stop smilying. I love you guys! :D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Greg Robson on March 14, 2004, 05:06:11 AM
Quote from: David on March 14, 2004, 04:38:04 AM
Great to see you around Greg. :)

Me? Leave this community? Never! Full-time work may be a pain, but when this week will involve installing SMF it will be slightly less mundane than usual! :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Dietrich on March 14, 2004, 05:40:22 AM
Nice piece of work guys 8)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: HRM on March 14, 2004, 05:54:27 AM
WOW!!! THis is really a pretty one guys. Great work and my compliments to all developers.

Installed it on http://www.muziek4um.nl/forum_2  to test with it and worked almost right away. The first time it didnt work, installed succesfully but just couldnt be opened, second time it failed cause I filled it things wrong so thats normal ;D, the third time it installed properly again and I can run it as long a don't chmod to to anything other then 777 ( I use ws-ftp).

IS there already some converting tool to convert my actual forum to this pretty one?

Great work.
Ed
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Ben_S on March 14, 2004, 06:01:51 AM
Yes, download the upgrade package
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Overseer on March 14, 2004, 06:10:01 AM
cool! :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: olger901 on March 14, 2004, 06:15:17 AM
W0000T I have been waiting for this a long long time :D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Winters on March 14, 2004, 06:46:14 AM
So have I... Congrats to the team!

Going to do a test upgrade now...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: HRM on March 14, 2004, 07:02:53 AM
Quote from: Ben_S on March 14, 2004, 06:01:51 AM
Yes, download the upgrade package

Great, tnx, I made a back up, executed upgrade.php it seems to works!!

Although I got i weird messages after running upgrade.php succesfully:
Check the item I posted in another topic.: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=7184.0

Ed

www.muziek4um.nl
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Acf on March 14, 2004, 07:16:55 AM
thanx SMF team :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: sdmr on March 14, 2004, 07:47:50 AM
This is awesome.  I love SMF 1.0.  Thank you so much guys  8)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: garfield on March 14, 2004, 08:11:51 AM
thx a lot - perfect release timing!  :D

dloading... :P
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [darksteel] on March 14, 2004, 08:47:08 AM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Logue on March 14, 2004, 09:56:05 AM
Good Job!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 14, 2004, 10:13:05 AM
thanks (you too Unknown...i know you chipped in a little here and there)! :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Sekhmet on March 14, 2004, 10:17:58 AM
OMG I can't believe it!!!   The wait is over!    :D

A big thanks to the SMF team for such a great work!!   ;)

downloading now.....
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Benny Elgazar on March 14, 2004, 11:30:49 AM
wowowow!!! cool!
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: The Donk on March 14, 2004, 12:36:41 PM
It really looks great!!! I've upgraded it from YABB SE 1.5.4, but I have 3 problems... the images won't any more in the posts and signatures. Flash isn't working. And I don't have the smilies you see here. What could this be?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Grudge on March 14, 2004, 12:42:46 PM
Smileys from here arn't included I believe.

Is flash enabled from the admin panel? We may have to look into that.

The images problem is reported in the bugs board I believe. There is a fix for it there and it will be fixed in the next release too.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: The Donk on March 14, 2004, 12:45:01 PM
Well, I've selected that Flash can be used in my forum.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: eFishie on March 14, 2004, 12:46:48 PM
Man! This is way cooler than I thought!

Though I like that YaBB SE's admin panel was simpler, it had nowhere near as much features. Once I get used to this admin panel, SMF is going to be even higher on my top forum list! (Which is odd, since it's already #1...)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Grudge on March 14, 2004, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: The Donk on March 14, 2004, 12:45:01 PM
Well, I've selected that Flash can be used in my forum.
Could you start a thread about this in the bugs board so it doesn't get lost? And if possible post a link to a post on your forum where you have flash posted - it will make it easier for us to work out what's wrong.

Thanks
Grudge
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: The Donk on March 14, 2004, 12:54:04 PM
Thanx m8, I will.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Dawgy on March 14, 2004, 12:55:32 PM
Wow! I like the standard template that comes with it!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: whiterabbit on March 14, 2004, 02:21:31 PM
Oh yeah!! ..
It's great... trying it just now...  :D

umm... BTW
It seem has a problem.
I cannot turn off the NOTICE error message eventhough I set the error_reporting to E_ALL^E_NOTICE
or even 0

how come ???
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Homer_J_S on March 14, 2004, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 10, 2004, 03:13:14 PM
Please remember to read the license.  Even if you do not, you are bound by it and may not redistribute SMF or change/remove any displayed copyrights.  We will go after people who do not follow these terms, so if you are not willing to abide by them please do not use SMF.
Is the license online somewhere on this site? Or is it only included the download file? If its already on this site please forgive the question but I could not find it anywhere and I would like to read it before downloading it. Thanks in advance.   
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: sneedo on March 14, 2004, 02:29:09 PM
This is a masterpiece, thanks so much for your hard work !!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Grudge on March 14, 2004, 02:39:05 PM
Homer J S. I've attached the license as it currently stands to this post.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 14, 2004, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: Homer_J_S on March 14, 2004, 02:25:06 PM
Is the license online somewhere on this site? Or is it only included the download file? If its already on this site please forgive the question but I could not find it anywhere and I would like to read it before downloading it. Thanks in advance.

You might also find it here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/license.txt

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Homer_J_S on March 14, 2004, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: Grudge on March 14, 2004, 02:39:05 PM
Homer J S. I've attached the license as it currently stands to this post.
Thanks Grudge. I can't wat to impliment SMF into the site I am currently developing.
kudos to all the developers on this milestone. 
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 14, 2004, 03:14:16 PM
I dunno if this is the place to ask it but...

how can I fix:

Notice: Undefined index: theme_template_error in /home/jess/public_html/forum/Sources/Load.php on line 813

(forum wont load at all)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Pharos on March 14, 2004, 03:16:41 PM
super forum i hope that everybody will help to make it the best forum in the world ;D
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 14, 2004, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: XrD.nl on March 14, 2004, 03:14:16 PM
I dunno if this is the place to ask it but...

how can I fix:

Notice: Undefined index: theme_template_error in /home/jess/public_html/forum/Sources/Load.php on line 813

(forum wont load at all)

might want to try here: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=9.0

what did you attempt to do right before you got that error?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 14, 2004, 03:21:29 PM
well... I changed Board URL's in settings.php and moved the board to another directory :S
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 14, 2004, 03:30:24 PM
You'll have to use the attached script to do that for now.  Just put it in the new path and run it.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 14, 2004, 04:22:08 PM
thanks!!

only had to fix the themes :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Doogles on March 14, 2004, 05:13:24 PM
Congratulations to one and all. Your many, many months of hard work are much appreciated. As one of your most techno-challenged older members I am looking forward to giving simple machines a spin. If I can install it and run it, then anybody can. I'll let you know how it goes.

Challenge #1. How the heck do I add a smiley to this "Quick Reply"?
I see no Smiley list or drag n' Drop box.

Ah HAH! I add the little devils in Preview Mode. Most first-timers won't know that. Maybe it should be mentioned in the bottom margin of the "Quick Reply" box.   ???  :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Peter Duggan on March 14, 2004, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: Doogles on March 14, 2004, 05:13:24 PM
Challenge #1. How the heck do I add a smiley to this "Quick Reply"?
I see no Smiley list or drag n' Drop box.

You should be able to type the codes straight to Quick Reply, since clicking the images is only a short cut to the same thing.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Doogles on March 14, 2004, 05:49:53 PM
Quote from: Peter Duggan on March 14, 2004, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: Doogles on March 14, 2004, 05:13:24 PM
Challenge #1. How the heck do I add a smiley to this "Quick Reply"?
I see no Smiley list or drag n' Drop box.

You should be able to type the codes straight to Quick Reply, since clicking the images is only a short cut to the same thing.

Thanks. Guess I will have to learn the codes.  How do you find messages you have written. With the search function?  Or is there another way?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Peter Duggan on March 14, 2004, 05:56:53 PM
Quote from: Doogles on March 14, 2004, 05:49:53 PM
Thanks. Guess I will have to learn the codes.

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=help;s=users;sa=posting#emoticons

NB This doc is currently being rewritten, so there'll be a new version sometime...

Quote
How do you find messages you have written. With the search function?  Or is there another way?

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=profile;u=1177;sa=showPosts
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Doogles on March 14, 2004, 06:26:12 PM
Many thanks Peter. I will study up on the doc.  Your links were  the perfect way to answer. Very helpful to me.

I think I had better stay here awhile and learn to use the board before I try Installing one.
Lot's to learn. But it seems well-thought out and organized, so even I should be able to master it. Again, well-done to the whole team.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: ryguy2008 on March 14, 2004, 09:05:00 PM
QuoteImages won't display
An issue has been found with bbc that will screw up images. Please update with the latest packages to solve this problem.

Thats what it says on the homepage of the admin area.....   :-X What should we upgrade?

Ryan
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 14, 2004, 09:06:20 PM
Download the "update" package and upload all the files in it.... mainly Subs.php.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: BigMike on March 15, 2004, 01:16:21 AM
So where are the Magic Llamas  ???
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: BigMike on March 15, 2004, 02:37:28 AM
BTW, I just gave the new forum software a complete examination and from the start I could tell that this is by far with out any doubt the very best forum software that I have ever used or seen in my life.

Excellent A+++ work. You guys deserve like an oscar award or something

BigMike
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: neugi on March 15, 2004, 03:15:42 AM
yeha....
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Webby on March 15, 2004, 04:01:44 AM
Great work you guys !!

Is it possible to upgrade into a testfolder, or is it just possible to upgrade into the "live" board ?

I have numerous mod's built in, and the table-structures has been changed dramatically during the installations of all these mods.
I want a "clean" database, so maybe you know some steps for me (and others) to follow ?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: de3jeh on March 15, 2004, 04:35:52 AM
It is perfect pepole but how to use the spellings checker  ???   ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Anguz on March 15, 2004, 06:28:34 AM
it's so nice to see everyone so happy (^_^)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: DeadMetal on March 15, 2004, 06:48:49 AM
One question: I suppose that in the next weeks a couple of bugs will be found since more and more people will try SMF.
When a bug is fixed, will it be directly available to the public (and how?) or will they only be bundled in a new (beta) version?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Grudge on March 15, 2004, 07:24:46 AM
During beta stage we will post fixes for bugs in that thread and I expect we'll release updated "packages" regularly during this process
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: DeadMetal on March 15, 2004, 07:38:23 AM
Okay great! I think it's a good idea to set up a page with links to updated files and the last modification date so it's easy to see which files are changed or indeed some between-beta packages with updated files.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Corvette on March 15, 2004, 08:53:45 AM
I looked at the structure and it looks like this board is going to be fun to theme.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: de3jeh on March 15, 2004, 04:35:52 AM
It is perfect pepole but how to use the spellings checker  ???   ;)

just press the spell checker button.  the rest is automatic.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Cloudbringer on March 15, 2004, 11:27:23 AM
Congrats on the realease of the public beta!! 

SMF is great stuff!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 11:34:03 AM
Quote from: pege on March 15, 2004, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: de3jeh on March 15, 2004, 04:35:52 AM
It is perfect pepole but how to use the spellings checker  ???   ;)

just press the spell checker button.  the rest is automatic.

I have 2 SMF test boards set up, both of them with Spell Check enabled, and you cannot use spell check when posting or with the quick reply. There is no spell check button.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Daniel D. on March 15, 2004, 11:36:44 AM
It has to be installed on your host's server.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 11:41:34 AM
Huh?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: MrCue on March 15, 2004, 11:42:50 AM
you have to have pspell installed and configured.
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/ref.pspell.php

Im still trying to get it working on windows.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 11:43:30 AM
i think the spell check uses a built-in php function, rather than a script from within SMF.  if your host doesn't have the spell-check function enabled, it won't work.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 11:44:22 AM
What's the spellcheck.js file for then? Where does one find this pspell?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: dave on March 15, 2004, 11:44:56 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 10, 2004, 03:13:14 PM
As you may now notice on the download page, a public beta of SMF 1.0 is now available.  Please remember, most importantly, that this is a beta and not a stable release.  It should not be used in production unless you understand the risks and are willing to live with them.  There will be bugs and problems, and you may have to live with them for periods if you choose to use this in production.

That said, we would like to invite all of you to test this public beta, so that we can remove any bugs that may be in it.  Realize that we expect there to be bugs, and the purpose of a beta release is to facilitate finding and fixing all of them.  So, every bug fixed moves us that much closer to a stable, production worthy release.

Remember that we always listen to feature requests, bug reports, and questions about the code.  Code review is a wonderful and great part of any project like this.  For more information on how to get involved with SMF, please see the page about just that (http://www.simplemachines.org/get_involved.php).  But remember, sometimes what you think is a bug might not be what we think is a bug; sometimes you will want a feature we don't see as part of the distribution.  We still want you involved, and some of you can help even more by making packages, themes, and so forth for SMF.

While the modification system is something that is not yet complete in this beta, you will soon see the premiere of the mod site.  There, you will be able to download modifications and packages to apply to your install - easily adding, changing, or removing functionality as you want.  While we're deprecating the use of boardmod, please hold on while the package manager gets to its feet.

Please remember to read the license.  Even if you do not, you are bound by it and may not redistribute SMF or change/remove any displayed copyrights.  We will go after people who do not follow these terms, so if you are not willing to abide by them please do not use SMF.

It's important to note that this is a big change from YaBB SE.  While it may seem to work the same in many ways, one look at the code... one look at the templating system... should show you it is not at all the same.  Many settings and options have changed and been moved, and it is highly recommended that you play with a separate install or upgrade before upgrading your main forum - if you must, indeed, use it in production.  It will take you time to get used to where the new settings are, and it will take time to ask questions here.  If you prepare, you won't have to worry about emergencies later.

You can always find information posted here about things like installation (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6765.0), upgrade (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6832.0), and more.  As development continues, you will see more and more tutorials, FAQs, and manuals for SMF - this is just another part of development.

If you need any more help with anything to do with SMF, please do not hesitate to ask questions (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=9.0). And for those who need a little to get going, the downloads themselves are, of course, here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/download.php

Thank you for being a part of SMF,
Simple Machines

Wow amazing job .....   this forum is going to blow all others out the water
*now if we can get it as a php nuke  addon :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 11:50:55 AM
Uh... Ok... I'm looking at the readme for the aspell thingy and have absolutely no clue what the heck I'm supposed to do with any of this.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 11:53:15 AM
i think the spellcheck.js is just a script that tells it how to use the built-in php function to check spelling.  but the dictionary and the rest is done by the php spell-check function on your server, if they have it enabled. 
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 15, 2004, 11:53:44 AM
If your host doesn't have pspell installed and PHP configured to use it, it won't show up. When I added the feature, in the admin area is a question mark beside the spellcheck option. Click it and it should tell you if it's enabled or not on your host.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: bostasp on March 15, 2004, 11:53:48 AM
Heh, imagine if the dictionary was stored in spellcheck.js - it'll be huge!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 11:53:52 AM
I guess I'll go email my host then and ask them to install it. This is rather annoying in my opinion.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: BigMike on March 15, 2004, 11:54:12 AM
Quote from: Webby on March 15, 2004, 04:01:44 AM
Great work you guys !!

Is it possible to upgrade into a testfolder, or is it just possible to upgrade into the "live" board ?

I have numerous mod's built in, and the table-structures has been changed dramatically during the installations of all these mods.
I want a "clean" database, so maybe you know some steps for me (and others) to follow ?

You know this is my situation as well. Infact, right now I am uploading a backed-up version of my SE 1.5.4 and get it fully functioning in a temp dir. Then I will test this 'upgrade' option. I have hacked my board up so much there must be no way an upgrade will work. And if it does then I fear it won't be as stable as the full install version.

Webby, I'll let you know how my upgrade goes.

And for the SMF team: In addition to having a "full" upgrade option, could you also offer a "partial" upgrade. Specifically speaking, I would rather install a complete fresh version, and then run an upgrade package that ONLY transfers over my old board / posts / user data / member list / date stamps / etc into the new version SMF? Do you see what I am saying?
This way I would feel 100% confident, won't have any errors, should be more stable (In my opinion however I don't know what the upgrade actually does yet), and I won't have to waste any one's time about how my upgrade messed up or Im having all these little errors here and there .....

Seriously I've dropped lines of my own code all over my board. I never use boardmod to install mods -- it won't work at all. So I've always manually added mods. So Im always tinkering around with things that maybe should have been left alone.

Machines Team: Comments?

All I really care about transfering over to the new board is just what's important, my posts and users.

Regards,
BigMike

BTW my board is doing well and currently has: almost 2k members / 25k posts / 3k topics
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 15, 2004, 11:55:46 AM
Quote from: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 11:53:52 AM
This is rather annoying in my opinion.

You should be annoyed with your host, not the software. On all of our hosting servers we have pspell installed and configured.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 12:04:50 PM
Sorry if I bugged you Jeff. It's just that this is the first time anybody has mentioned pspell, and we've all been using the spell check feature here for several months, so I guess a lot of us just assumed it was a built-in feature that didn't require any special addons. I don't think my host will give me any problems about this though, so hopefully I'll be able to use spell check soon.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: BigMike on March 15, 2004, 12:07:17 PM
oh I almost forgot. This is probabley already answered, but I don't want to sift through 9 pages to find it...

I found a bug, where can I report it?

Thanks
BigMike
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 12:08:18 PM
i think there was a thread on the spell check a while back, & how it uses pspell.


here's one from back in August.  there are others:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=862.msg10964#msg10964
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 12:08:44 PM
Quote from: BigMike on March 15, 2004, 12:07:17 PM
oh I almost forgot. This is probabley already answered, but I don't want to sift through 9 pages to find it...

I found a bug, where can I report it?

Thanks
BigMike


http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=19.0
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Ben_S on March 15, 2004, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: MrCue on March 15, 2004, 11:42:50 AM
you have to have pspell installed and configured.
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/ref.pspell.php

Im still trying to get it working on windows.

I don't think it will work on windows at all
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: MrCue on March 15, 2004, 12:35:37 PM
The manual begs to differ
QuoteNote to Win32 Users: win32 support is available only in PHP 4.3.3 and later versions. Also, you must have aspell 0.50 or newer installed.
I meet both those requirments. I just dont know why its saying the data is wrong.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Ben_S on March 15, 2004, 12:37:13 PM
In that case maybe it does, dunno much about windows servers though.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: MrCue on March 15, 2004, 12:38:26 PM
ive been hunting round google, php manual, aspell documentation and i cant find a reason for it not working.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 15, 2004, 12:50:10 PM
Quote from: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 12:04:50 PM
Sorry if I bugged you Jeff.

Didn't bug anyone here...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Nyx on March 15, 2004, 01:31:26 PM
I like multiple attachs, but i dont like them under the signatures  :(
the rest its ok!  :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Peter Duggan on March 15, 2004, 02:11:13 PM
Quote from: Nyx on March 15, 2004, 01:31:26 PM
but i dont like them under the signatures  :(

So make use of the new template system to change this...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: sdmr on March 15, 2004, 02:25:34 PM
When I try to back up my yabbse 1.5.5 database it says that the database is too large and can't do it.  Any tips?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 02:26:36 PM
i think you can do it in chunks.  zip so many boards at a time.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 15, 2004, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: Webby on March 15, 2004, 04:01:44 AM
Great work you guys !!

Is it possible to upgrade into a testfolder, or is it just possible to upgrade into the "live" board ?

I have numerous mod's built in, and the table-structures has been changed dramatically during the installations of all these mods.
I want a "clean" database, so maybe you know some steps for me (and others) to follow ?

There are a few ways to do this.. but a converter will be done later.

However, I recommend you make a copy of your database (you can back it up and then restore it elsewhere ;).) and upgrade that.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Webby on March 15, 2004, 04:01:44 AM
Great work you guys !!

Is it possible to upgrade into a testfolder, or is it just possible to upgrade into the "live" board ?

I have numerous mod's built in, and the table-structures has been changed dramatically during the installations of all these mods.
I want a "clean" database, so maybe you know some steps for me (and others) to follow ?

1. Backup your database. If your host lets you create multiple databases, create another one and copy your current yabb database to the new empty one via phpmyadmin.
2. Go through and delete any columns in the tables that have been inserted by mods.
3. Upgrade that database.

I recently went from a board with 20+ mods to a clean install of Enigma, which was actually more difficult that you would think because I decided to re-number all the members while I was at it...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 02:49:45 PM
yeah, but he's saying his data base is too large to back up all at once. 
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 15, 2004, 02:52:19 PM
pege, read the post. That was in response to Webby, not sdmr
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 15, 2004, 02:54:14 PM
woops...excuuuuuuse me :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Ben_S on March 15, 2004, 03:56:06 PM
Quote from: sdmr on March 15, 2004, 02:25:34 PM
When I try to back up my yabbse 1.5.5 database it says that the database is too large and can't do it.  Any tips?

Back it up using ssh or similar.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Doogles on March 15, 2004, 05:46:26 PM
It is perfect pepole but how to use the spelllings checker

Seeems the spellling chicker doesn't knowe how to spell yet. It caught none of these errrors.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Henrik Samuelsson on March 15, 2004, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on March 15, 2004, 11:53:44 AM
If your host doesn't have pspell installed and PHP configured to use it, it won't show up. When I added the feature, in the admin area is a question mark beside the spellcheck option. Click it and it should tell you if it's enabled or not on your host.

I sopose that the spellshecker chose language depending of you board language.
But when I whant too use Swedish board language and writing in Swedish, this can couse some truble. It would need som possibility too chose spell checking language if you are writing in difrent language than your own.
(I didn't spell check this just too point this out... I NEED THIS  ;D  )
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: mw on March 15, 2004, 06:17:08 PM
Will the upgrade program work with phpbb 2.0.6?  Thanks
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Douglas on March 15, 2004, 06:23:31 PM
mw, convert your forum to YaBB SE 1.5.5, and then do the upgrade to SMF.  Best way to get that going.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Peter Duggan on March 15, 2004, 07:03:39 PM
Quote from: Doogles on March 15, 2004, 05:46:26 PM
It is perfect pepole but how to use the spelllings checker

Seeems the spellling chicker doesn't knowe how to spell yet. It caught none of these errrors.

Purely for clarification, the blame for that (such as it is) lies with the PHP module used for the spell checker and not with SMF...
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Webby on March 16, 2004, 03:31:03 AM
Quote

1. Backup your database. If your host lets you create multiple databases, create another one and copy your current yabb database to the new empty one via phpmyadmin.
2. Go through and delete any columns in the tables that have been inserted by mods.
3. Upgrade that database.

I recently went from a board with 20+ mods to a clean install of Enigma, which was actually more difficult that you would think because I decided to re-number all the members while I was at it...

Thanx. This would probably be the best way to do this but : I guess the majority of users have 1 or more mods (and therefor tables) installed. I have installed almost all mods available (mod-addicted ?), so I have to check the whole database-structure to be able to delete the tables that are inserted by mods ? That will be a hell of a job, won't it ? And, I would really like to be online with the board as much as possible, so I don't have to shut it for hours..... I mean, would it be possible to create a script that makes the structure of a standard YaBBSE (1.5.5), and copies the contents into that new standard-structured table ? I think this would be perfect to give people that final push to use SMF. Now I'd rather wait before taking this giant step......
I want to use SMF.....I want to use SMF...... :-[
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: joker on March 16, 2004, 04:52:17 AM
Would'nt it be usefull to display the last Update/Fix-date on the Download-page?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Powerbob on March 16, 2004, 06:24:45 AM
Hi I stumbled accross your site via Mike Bobbit (album.pl) and just had to take a look :o That was 5am this morning, I now have a test version up and running on my site ;D ;D

This is what YaBB should have been like ;D I have a forum powered by Invision, but I am really getting to like your smf. Congrats on a very well done Beta :D

Powerbob
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Webby on March 16, 2004, 08:30:30 AM
Well, the upgrade went well on my testboard. I had only one error : duplicate entry "79-0" with copying the Polls table. I emptied this table to be able to continue, but how can I make sure this is fixed BEFORE donig the upgrade on our live-board ?

There are only some 50 polls............
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 16, 2004, 11:08:59 AM
Unless you ran a step twice, you should never get such an error.

As far as the "latest fix date" I stopped updating things the day after. (Sunday in my timezone)  I did this because I wanted to fix all major issues, but also didn't want really "different" versions floating around.

Expect another update in a little bit.  Also remember that changelog.txt should show your revision number at the top.  Current CVS is 1.483, latest download is 1.454.  I think the first download was around 1.443.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: BigMike on March 16, 2004, 01:23:52 PM
[Unknown],

This is probably on the minds of others as well... I've read about the chances I would be taking if I released the beta copy as my main forum, but I was just wondering....... I see in the copyright here it's also running beta 4.

Now assuming it's not a whole lot different than the beta 4 offered for download, what are the real risks? Is it security risks or useableility/functionality problems?
Because if it is just functionality issues then I'm sure my users won't mind because it is so much faster and better then what they are using right now. But of course if its a security risk then I won't upgrade yet....

Of course I can always just wait until the final version is released but when I come here to check up on things it pisses me off how nice SMF is compared to my YaBBSE and everytime I just want to have it that much more.

Thanks,
BigMike


ps. I just noticed something about the forum here: In the quick reply box, from the input area, I always use tab to get to 'Post', 'Preview', or 'Spell Check' and I just noticed that Tab only flows through to Post and Preview, and then it jumps me to the top of the window instead of moving to the Spell Check button. Might want to check that.. ???
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 16, 2004, 01:51:28 PM
Well, this is a beta.  That means it is *possible* that their may be security issues.  This has been asked before, and as I have said time and time again I do not believe it's possible to write any large thing like a forum without a few mistakes.

That's why I make regular backups of this forum, although I would hope they aren't necessary.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: BigMike on March 16, 2004, 01:59:18 PM
I knew it was a retorical question. but I wanted to hear your end of it.

Thankyou very much-
BigMike
Title: FYI
Post by: Corvette on March 16, 2004, 02:12:22 PM
I've noticed that Unknown is wanting a new set of topic icons for the default theme and I was able to make some.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: DeadMetal on March 16, 2004, 04:06:31 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 16, 2004, 11:08:59 AM
Expect another update in a little bit.  Also remember that changelog.txt should show your revision number at the top.  Current CVS is 1.483, latest download is 1.454.  I think the first download was around 1.443.

How can one know if there is a new revision available for download without downloading the whole package and looking at the changelog.txt?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 16, 2004, 04:07:56 PM
There are no new versions since Sunday.  I will be doing packages (from the package manager) for updates from now on, if possible.  And I will update those, of course.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: DeadMetal on March 17, 2004, 12:33:46 AM
Thanks for the info :)
This afternoon I will try to convert my Supermod boards, I'm very curious!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: adownhiller on March 17, 2004, 03:33:23 AM
Many thanks to all the SMF team for the public beta, it's excellent!
Successfully upgraded from YABBSE with no problems at all  :D (tripod.co.uk server).

Thanks again!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 17, 2004, 12:06:41 PM
does the calendar always shows all the events except for birthday's of the whole month?
(on board main index)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 17, 2004, 12:08:35 PM
you can set what it shows on Board Index, in admin/Features/Calendar (might want to post in English help) :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 17, 2004, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: pege on March 17, 2004, 12:08:35 PM
you can set what it shows on Board Index, in admin/Features/Calendar (might want to post in English help) :)

Yes I know,
but isnt it supposed to display whats gonna happen on the day itself?
Because instead of that it justs shows all the Today events :-|
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 17, 2004, 12:14:42 PM
well, you can set how many days in advance you want it to show events.  default is 7.  just set 0 or 1
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: LiroyvH on March 17, 2004, 12:29:00 PM
hmm... I did but it isnt changing anything :(
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 17, 2004, 12:31:29 PM
hmm...not sure, then...try posting in the English help board :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: DeadMetal on March 18, 2004, 02:39:43 AM
I upgraded my two Supermod forums to SMF. No problem at all! Great :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Webby on March 19, 2004, 08:28:11 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 16, 2004, 11:08:59 AM
Unless you ran a step twice, you should never get such an error.

As far as the "latest fix date" I stopped updating things the day after. (Sunday in my timezone)  I did this because I wanted to fix all major issues, but also didn't want really "different" versions floating around.

Expect another update in a little bit.  Also remember that changelog.txt should show your revision number at the top.  Current CVS is 1.483, latest download is 1.454.  I think the first download was around 1.443.

-[Unknown]

Well, it had something to do with polls that weren't linked to topic ID's or something like that. I deleted all poll's, and everything went fine this time. Now I'm only testing a few things (and also my GM's), and I'm planning on converting the live board next week. I guess all updates can be used to overwrite the original files, so updating the Beta's would be very easy ?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 19, 2004, 10:54:20 AM
Well, yes, you can easily upload all the files from the update package....

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Shaylanna on March 19, 2004, 12:33:27 PM
I am thrilled with the SMF forums so far.  I have run into very few issues with upgrading from YabbSE to SMF.  Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: sdmr on March 19, 2004, 02:35:02 PM
On the subject of backing up or making a copy of my database.  The tables for my forum total about 9MB.  I can now download them all as .sql files.

But what I really want to do is make a copy of all the tables on my database with some alternative prefix, so that I can test SMF 1.0 on them.

Is there a quick way to do this?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: zxbbs on March 20, 2004, 03:50:57 AM
sorry for being late
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: DeadMetal on March 20, 2004, 04:02:46 AM
Quote from: sdmr on March 19, 2004, 02:35:02 PM
But what I really want to do is make a copy of all the tables on my database with some alternative prefix, so that I can test SMF 1.0 on them.

Is there a quick way to do this?

While installing there is a checkbox to create a backup of the existing database with a prefix.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: sdmr on March 20, 2004, 05:39:57 AM
Ooh.  Thank you :)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jazhawk on March 22, 2004, 03:12:59 PM
Dang.  I got the blues!

I got a new server host. IPowerweb. Lots of bandwidth, lots of diskspace.
Pretty good support but it doesn't seem they have pspell.  :-[

Sup wit dat?

-Jazhawk
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2004, 03:49:37 PM
I don't find that many hosts DO have it installed...not sure why though.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: smacktalk on March 22, 2004, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2004, 03:49:37 PM
I don't find that many hosts DO have it installed...not sure why though.

Jeff,

Lewismedia.com does not have it installed. Why?
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: MrCue on March 22, 2004, 04:24:14 PM
http://lewismedia.com/hosting.php

Yes it does.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: smacktalk on March 22, 2004, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: MrCue on March 22, 2004, 04:24:14 PM
http://lewismedia.com/hosting.php

Yes it does.
hmm.. Doesnt work on my SMF...

Enable spell checking. You MUST have the pspell library installed on your server and your PHP configuration set up to use the pspell library. Your server DOES NOT appear to have this set up.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Ben_S on March 22, 2004, 04:48:03 PM
Quote from: Jazhawk on March 22, 2004, 03:12:59 PM
Dang.  I got the blues!

I got a new server host. IPowerweb. Lots of bandwidth, lots of diskspace.
Pretty good support but it doesn't seem they have pspell.  :-[

Sup wit dat?

-Jazhawk

Any decent host will install it for you if you ask them.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Tony Reid on March 22, 2004, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: MrCue on March 22, 2004, 04:24:14 PM
http://lewismedia.com/hosting.php

Yes it does.

Hi Smacktalk.

Please open a support ticket and a tech will install it for you,

Tony.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: smacktalk on March 22, 2004, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2004, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: MrCue on March 22, 2004, 04:24:14 PM
http://lewismedia.com/hosting.php

Yes it does.

Hi Smacktalk.

Please open a support ticket and a tech will install it for you,

Tony.


Will do... thanks
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2004, 07:28:47 PM
Normally we do (it's where I tested the spellchecker when I was writing it for SMF).

A Cpanel update must have knocked it out, should be back in tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2004, 07:45:06 PM
There I just recompiled it. in the future, help desk submissions get faster response times (as opposed to forum posts here) ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: smacktalk on March 22, 2004, 10:30:35 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2004, 07:45:06 PM
There I just recompiled it. in the future, help desk submissions get faster response times (as opposed to forum posts here) ;)

No problem, It just came up with this thread.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: jrcarr on March 25, 2004, 08:58:12 PM
Quote
Any decent host will install it for you if you ask them.
And some want to charge you for an hour at $65 if you want it, even though everone on that server can benefit.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 25, 2004, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: jrcarr on March 25, 2004, 08:58:12 PM
Quote
Any decent host will install it for you if you ask them.
And some want to charge you for an hour at $65 if you want it, even though everone on that server can benefit.

lol
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 26, 2004, 12:10:13 AM
Quote from: jrcarr on March 25, 2004, 08:58:12 PM
Quote
Any decent host will install it for you if you ask them.
And some want to charge you for an hour at $65 if you want it, even though everone on that server can benefit.

What? Boo to them! It takes all of like 15 minutes to download the libraries and reconfigure PHP, sheesh.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: jrcarr on March 26, 2004, 12:18:36 AM
Well this was HostRockets claim to fame:
QuoteHi,

This would require us to recompile php. It would take about
an hour to upgrade things properly. The charge for this
would be $65 per hour. Let us know what you would like to do.
I have been happy with all my service and their Giga hosting package, but this did rub me the wrong way.

Jack
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 26, 2004, 12:26:56 AM
What if you offered to do it for them, and for free even?  Would they let you?  You could say:

QuoteDear HostRockets,

I am sad to hear that your staff is under-qualified to rebuild PHP properly and speedily.  I would be more than happy to do their job for them, in under half an hour, for no pay at all - except that all your other clients and I would have the new functionality this offers.

Thank you,
Jack

-[Unknown]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: jrcarr on March 26, 2004, 12:48:19 AM
Don't I wish [unknown],  It's just hard to believe that someone that has all the extra features that HostRocket has that this would be so out on a limb for them to handle.  I host 3 site with them and figured that would count for something.  I just hope that there are several other Yabbse forums hosted there that will be converting to SMF and they start getting too many requests to ignore it or someone else is in a bigger need and is will to pay the $65

Jack
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: pulpitfire on March 26, 2004, 01:40:39 AM
[shameless plug]maybe Jeff can offer you a better deal.[/shameless plug]
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: eFishie on March 26, 2004, 01:41:29 AM
Sounds like ANYONE could give him a better offer. :/
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Jazhawk on March 26, 2004, 03:03:29 AM
I requested pspell to be loaded at Ipowerweb.com but they didn't say anything about a charge.  They better not send me a bill or I'm moving to another host.

-Jazhawk
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Tyris on March 26, 2004, 03:23:19 AM
Most hosts would probably do this for free because its a benefit for all their customers and their service overall... charging $65 is absolutely incredible imho... you could get a few months hosting with a good host who -has- pspell installed for that ;)
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Ben_S on March 26, 2004, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: jrcarr on March 25, 2004, 08:58:12 PM
Quote
Any decent host will install it for you if you ask them.
And some want to charge you for an hour at $65 if you want it, even though everone on that server can benefit.

Thats where the word decent comes into it ;).

A host should not be a host if they have to rely on external techs to do something as simple as recompile php.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: Oldiesmann on March 28, 2004, 12:28:42 AM
Tell them that you'll gladly pay them $65 if they'll deduct that cost from your bill over the next year :)
Seriously... that's crazy. My host installed it free of charge no questions asked. They shouldn't have php on there if they can't install libraries. Threaten to take your sites elsewhere and see what they say. If they really want your business, they'll install it for free.
Title: Re: SMF 1.0 Public Beta Available
Post by: [Unknown] on March 28, 2004, 12:30:33 AM
Oh, just so people see it:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=8378.0

-[Unknown]