We would like to invite all of you to test this new version of the public beta. It is considered a critical update, because bugs have been found and resolved that might cause data loss in some cases. Remember, we expect there to be bugs, and the purpose of a beta release is to facilitate finding and fixing all of them - but we're still trying to keep on top of the more critical bugs, as closely as possible. Please don't ask for a final release date, because we are still working on it.
While updating, please note that many templates and language files have changed. For details, you can check the changelog - however, in most cases these changes won't cause problems unless you:
- modified the default theme. (you should create a copy instead...)
- are using language files other than the default four. (they should be updated soon, though.)
Remember that we always listen to feature requests, bug reports, and questions about the code. Code review is a wonderful and great part of any project like this. For more information on how to get involved with SMF, please see the page about just that (http://www.simplemachines.org/get_involved.php). But remember, sometimes what you think is a bug might not be what we think is a bug; sometimes you will want a feature we don't see as part of the distribution. We still want you involved, and some of you can help even more by making packages, themes, and so forth for SMF.
Please remember to read the license. Even if you do not, you are bound by it and may not redistribute SMF or change/remove any displayed copyrights. We will go after people who do not follow these terms, so if you are not willing to abide by them please do not use SMF. Remember that, currently, you are not allowed to redistribute any of the files, in part or full, released in the packages available for download.
For new users - it's important to note that this is a big change from YaBB SE. While it may seem to work the same in many ways, one look at the code... one look at the templating system... should show you it is not at all the same. Many settings and options have changed and been moved, and it is highly recommended that you play with a separate install or upgrade before upgrading your main forum - if you must, indeed, use it in production. It will take you time to get used to where the new settings are, and it will take time to ask questions here. If you prepare, you won't have to worry about emergencies later.
You can always find information posted here about things like installation (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6765.0), upgrade (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6832.0), and more. As development continues, you will see more and more tutorials, FAQs, and manuals for SMF - this is just another part of development.
If you need any more help with anything to do with SMF, please do not hesitate to ask questions (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=9.0). And for those who need a little to get going, the downloads themselves are, of course, here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/download.php
Thank you for being a part of SMF,
Simple Machines
Ran the update succesfully and get this error on top of every Administration Center page in the default and classic themes:
Notice: Undefined index: theme_current_settings in /home/joker/public_html/smf/Sources/Subs.php on line 1277
Any ideas?
Please try to upload the language files again. If you're using SmartFTP, it was probably caused by "that SmartFTP problem (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=8359.0)".
-[Unknown]
All the smilies are pictures of X's, other than that no problems.
I deleted the folder with smilies, then uploaded one from an install.zip and it works now.
I don't use SmartFTP but that worked..... thx Unknown!
Quote from: Springer on March 28, 2004, 01:19:27 AM
All the smilies are pictures of X's, other than that no problems.
I deleted the folder with smilies, then uploaded one from an install.zip and it works now.
Hmm, the update package shouldn't even contain any smileys at all... I don't think... or does it?
-[Unknown]
From what I see in the update the smilie images were not touched.
One thing I forgot to post earlier. When I was trying to fix it through admin the save buttons would not display. I tried many times refreshing the screen. I then closed IE and open a new one and none of that worked. Tried all that again with more time between open and close, no effect.
I deleted and then uploaded the smilies folder. Hit refresh on IE and all of a sudden the images could be seen and the save button was there.
Odd.... really odd. I'll be rewriting that interface soon, though. It's horrible...
-[Unknown]
Wow, I must say that the package downloader is GREAT! If all mods were downloadable through that, as they few of them already are it would be great.
We do not need to run upgrade.php again, do we?
Quote from: Winters on March 28, 2004, 02:59:07 AM
We do not need to run upgrade.php again, do we?
Yes.
Quote from: Winters on March 28, 2004, 02:59:07 AM
We do not need to run upgrade.php again, do we?
Always a good idea, but I think you may not actually need to.
-[Unknown]
Just used this to upgrade a local Beta -3.1415 because I still have two similar live boards (not to mention a live YaBB SE) and it went straight through first time. But it's also wrecked my theme, which was based off a copy of the old YaBB SE style SMF default theme and is now appearing as a horrid mixture of my theme and the new default theme, so I'm afraid I won't be upgrading the live boards till I work out why...
OK, just tried another local one in case 'Convert the existing template and set it as default' did any good, but it's just the same...
NB There's no index.template.php etc. in these themes, of course, so the board's apparently using the new default version! So perhaps I should find that template converter, go back to my old YaBB SE templates and start again from there?
Quote from: Peter Duggan on March 28, 2004, 03:14:36 AM
Just used this to upgrade a local Beta -3.1415 because I still have two similar live boards (not to mention a live YaBB SE) and it went straight through first time. But it's also wrecked my theme, which was based off a copy of the old YaBB SE style SMF default theme and is now appearing as a horrid mixture of my theme and the new default theme, so I'm afraid I won't be upgrading the live boards till I work out why...
Probably because they relied on the default theme's URLs. Try going into their settings and using the "classic" theme instead as a base.
-[Unknown]
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 28, 2004, 03:29:47 AM
Quote from: Peter Duggan on March 28, 2004, 03:14:36 AM
Just used this to upgrade a local Beta -3.1415 because I still have two similar live boards (not to mention a live YaBB SE) and it went straight through first time. But it's also wrecked my theme, which was based off a copy of the old YaBB SE style SMF default theme and is now appearing as a horrid mixture of my theme and the new default theme, so I'm afraid I won't be upgrading the live boards till I work out why...
Probably because they relied on the default theme's URLs. Try going into their settings and using the "classic" theme instead as a base.
No, I'm afraid that's not it!
The real problem appears to be that, in Beta -3.1415, we have:
QuoteModify the index.php template. (the main template)
But, in Beta 4.1 (and 4.0) Public:
QuoteModify the index template. (the main template)
Which leads to:
QuoteThe file you are trying to edit... can't even be found!
But I still have copies of the Beta -3.1415 templates if that helps!
Oh, just rename index.php to index.template.php.
-[Unknown]
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 28, 2004, 03:56:10 AM
Oh, just rename index.php to index.template.php.
Now, that's so obvious that I should have done it anyway! :-X
Great, a new beta :)
Update succeeded.
I have a dutch forum so I removed the english language files. But the upgrade.php script said some files were missing. (the english language files) so I had to upload them again. Maybe this can be improved.
Quote from: DeadMetal on March 28, 2004, 06:12:03 AM
Great, a new beta :)
Update succeeded.
I have a dutch forum so I removed the english language files. But the upgrade.php script said some files were missing. (the english language files) so I had to upload them again. Maybe this can be improved.
! Upgrade wouldn't work properly without English installed.
-[Unknown]
i get an error in the profile :-\
Notice: Undefined index: showPermissions in /home/internet/public_html/Sources/Profile.php on line 180
and in my admin pannel
Notice: Undefined index: theme_current_settings in /home/internet/public_html/Sources/Subs.php on line 1277
what to do ???
Quote from: de3jeh on March 28, 2004, 10:33:44 AM
and in my admin pannel
Notice: Undefined index: theme_current_settings in /home/internet/public_html/Sources/Subs.php on line 1277
what to do ???
i got the same error in one my forums after upgrading, i uploaded all files again and ran upgrade.php again and the error disappeared...
i fixed it already i have uploaded the
profile.php
and the
admin.php the dutch file (new one) and the enlish one ;)
QuoteWow, I must say that the package downloader is GREAT! If all mods were downloadable through that, as they few of them already are it would be great.
Can you please tell me if there is any new package mods on this beta ?
Quote from: babylonking on March 28, 2004, 11:32:34 AM
QuoteWow, I must say that the package downloader is GREAT! If all mods were downloadable through that, as they few of them already are it would be great.
Can you please tell me if there is any new package mods on this beta ?
me 2 i get onley errors i can dowload it but if i installed it i get errors like
Warning: copy(/home/internet/public_html/Sources/shout.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/internet/public_html/Sources/Subs-Package.php on line 491
Warning: copy(/home/internet/public_html/Themes/default/images/deleteshout.gif): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/internet/public_html/Sources/Subs-Package.php on line 491
Notice: Undefined variable: table_name in /home/internet/public_html/Packages/temp/shoutPdb.php on line 55
Notice: Undefined variable: to_prefix in /home/internet/public_html/Packages/temp/shoutPdb.php on line 59 Please help
de3jeh, this is because of the package manager, please discuss it here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=8417.new#new
Anyway - in reply. The last two errors were a typo but wouldn't affect the install. The first two errors are because you haven't chmod'd the Sources and images DIRECTORY correctly. The directories must have 777 permissions. To fix this chmod the directories, uninstall the mod and then reinstall it.
Do we need to run the upgrade even when we have the SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Public, or can we just upload and overwrite the old files ??
Quote from: Floyds on March 28, 2004, 02:15:28 PM
Do we need to run the upgrade even when we have the SMF 1.0 Beta 4 Public, or can we just upload and overwrite the old files ??
It never hurts to run the upgrade.php file. I believe however that in this case you can just upload the update package and be alright. However, I still always reccomend running the upgrade.php file.
Great Upgrade, What new features and such? Smooth installation, only had to chmod my themes directory ^_^
Quote from: ::Wooper Mew:: on March 28, 2004, 03:14:41 PM
Great Upgrade, What new features and such? Smooth installation, only had to chmod my themes directory ^_^
Weird, I never, since getting SMF, had to chmod anything. :)
I dont think theres new features, I think its only a bug fixing version. :)
There are actually a handfull of new features. There were over 150 changes in this release.
is it supposed to have 71 tables??
You probably have backup tables...
-[Unknown]
yeah I told the upgrade tool to backup the database...
so are their tables i can drop?
Any table with a "backup_" prefix can be dropped.
-[Unknown]
thanx! ;D
Yjuu good work mens !
About languages and translation.
Is there any changes in defoult lang. pack?
It's hard to compare everything :)
The upgrade went seamlessly. No problems at all for me.
Everything went good for me on my test board. :) (I still haven't ugraded my public board to SMF)
A few of my images are not showing up now after I uploaded the 4.1 beta.
The topic images are being reported incorrectly or something!
http://www.hardyboyscasefiles.com/forums/index.php?board=8.0
The urls for the images are to images that do not exist.
Solution anyone?
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Quote from: DTG on March 28, 2004, 09:19:21 PM
About languages and translation.
Is there any changes in defoult lang. pack?
It's hard to compare everything :)
Changes have been made, yes. I'm sorry if it's hard to compare files - but there are programs made for that purpose.
Quote from: SkyWarp on March 28, 2004, 10:49:41 PM
A few of my images are not showing up now after I uploaded the 4.1 beta.
The topic images are being reported incorrectly or something!
http://www.hardyboyscasefiles.com/forums/index.php?board=8.0
The urls for the images are to images that do not exist.
Solution anyone?
Please try a detailed version check.
-[Unknown]
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 28, 2004, 11:44:59 PM
Please try a detailed version check.
-[Unknown]
Duh, my fault for not thinking the obvious. Several were not up to date, even though I uploaded them once already. Anyway, I uploaded them again and the graphics came back. Hmmmm, I still have several "??" in the Themes area though!
Don't worry about the ?? ones for now.
-[Unknown]
Hey look theres a new feature in member deletion. Cool! This is what i need for trolls and such. Thansk!! :D
Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2004, 01:12:17 AM
Ran the update succesfully and get this error on top of every Administration Center page in the default and classic themes:
Notice: Undefined index: theme_current_settings in /home/joker/public_html/smf/Sources/Subs.php on line 1277
Any ideas?
i have the same problem ...i downloaded again languages files but nothing happen
Here's how you fix that:
Go into Themes/default/languages and edit Admin.english.php
Search for:
$txt['theme4'] = 'Theme Settings';
Add after:
$txt['theme_current_settings'] = 'Current Theme\'s Settings';
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=8237.msg79701#msg79701
Yeah, I know I double-posted. I posted there after posting here because I was too lazy to dig up the link to this thread... :)
Quote from: de3jeh on March 28, 2004, 10:33:44 AM
i get an error in the profile :-\
Notice: Undefined index: showPermissions in /home/internet/public_html/Sources/Profile.php on line 180
I get this simular error but only if a guest trys to view someones profile. Woks ok when logged in as a member.
Notice: Undefined index: profile_areas in /home/worldcic/public_html/yabbse/Sources/Profile.php on line 226
Notice: Undefined index: profile_areas in /home/worldcic/public_html/yabbse/Sources/Profile.php on line 226
I reuploaded profile.php but still the same
www.worldcichlids.com/yabbse
Same error as above poster.
[Link removed by me] ;)
Quote from: oscar2001 on March 29, 2004, 07:11:31 PM
I get this simular error but only if a guest trys to view someones profile.
Quote from: WM on March 29, 2004, 08:38:28 PM
Same error as above poster.
But *of course* you get the same error (that's the nature of bugs), so please rest assured that the devs will be dealing with it... ;)
Already dealt with like three days ago ;). I forget the change but it was minor, and on that line. I think you add an empty(that var) || clause to the if.
-[Unknown]
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 30, 2004, 08:11:58 AM
Already dealt with like three days ago ;). I forget the change but it was minor, and on that line. I think you add an empty(that var) || clause to the if.
-[Unknown]
OK, then a dumb question, where's the fix ? ;)
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=8275.0
-[Unknown]
Thank You [Unknown].
[edit] I had some trouble when adding to the profile.php then just copied what was from the link and it worked, i have no idea what I left out, but in any case thanks.
First, the upgrade went smoothly and without a flaw. Running the upgrade.php file double checks things, and gives the installer / user the 'successful' thumbs up when an upgrade is accomplished correctly.
The question, and I looked around for the answer first. What is the final chmod setting(s) for the directories and files of SMF after installation is completed?
Thanks in advance...
I had absolutely no problem at all with the update. Didn't even read the update guide ;)
Quote from: ECCShaman on April 01, 2004, 11:09:35 AM
First, the upgrade went smoothly and without a flaw. Running the upgrade.php file double checks things, and gives the installer / user the 'successful' thumbs up when an upgrade is accomplished correctly.
The question, and I looked around for the answer first. What is the final chmod setting(s) for the directories and files of SMF after installation is completed?
Thanks in advance...
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=2987.0
-[Unknown]
nice job folks! looking hot!
Quote from: [Unknown] on April 01, 2004, 04:12:15 PM
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=2987.0
-[Unknown]
Thanks for the link Unknown - some great answers for chmod settings and why a good server host is critical for a good to great Board / Forum.
I just changed server host's to one of the SMF developers hosting sites because of some of the issues you pointed out in your post. I also figured that it's a great way to help re-pay the developers for doing what they are doing with developing the SMF board software
ECCShaman
Quote from: [Unknown] on March 28, 2004, 03:29:47 AM
Quote from: Peter Duggan on March 28, 2004, 03:14:36 AM
Just used this to upgrade a local Beta -3.1415 because I still have two similar live boards (not to mention a live YaBB SE) and it went straight through first time. But it's also wrecked my theme, which was based off a copy of the old YaBB SE style SMF default theme and is now appearing as a horrid mixture of my theme and the new default theme, so I'm afraid I won't be upgrading the live boards till I work out why...
Probably because they relied on the default theme's URLs. Try going into their settings and using the "classic" theme instead as a base.
-[Unknown]
How do you change the theme's "base" setting..? Are you saying to change "This Theme's Directory" to Classic?
Thanks.
No, set "this theme's images url" or whatever it is titled to the Classic theme's.
-[Unknown]
OK, Thanks.
Hello,
I did the upgrade and its great abd evreythings seems to work right.
I just discovered an error in the Personal Message section:
It's says the following:
Date
Notice: Undefined index: sort_by in /home/sites/site92/web/forum/Themes/default/InstantMessage.template.php on line 26
And :
From
Notice: Undefined index: sort_by in /home/sites/site92/web/forum/Themes/default/InstantMessage.template.php on line 27
It shows at the top of all messages in the Private message area and further it shows all messages, also the new ones.
What shall I do?
Tnx in advance,
Ed
I found it yet.
My souce files where not updated..probably I forgot to upload them. Now I did and it seems fine.
ed
If you're using SmartFTP, it probably wasn't you.
I asked question about integration of chat in SMF.
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=9214.msg85369#msg85369msg85369
That chat could be easily integrated in Yabbse.
And I'd like to integrate it in SMF.
For moderators: it regards to upgrading Yabbse to SMF. Please, don't delete :D
I've finally installed SMF on my public forum. My users really love it, and it looks great! Thaks to everyone who helped make it. :D The new permissions system is exactly what we needed.
Once the upgrade was over, there were no problems. (But during the upgrade it said "hacking attempt.." whenever you tried to access the forum, heh ;))
Edit: Oh, and not to mention going from 0.09 load times to 0.07 or less. ;)
I have a few questions about SimpleMachines, that I discovered only a few days ago.
1) Is this beta stable enough to be used in a public board ? I mean... I know there's still a lot of bugs (otherwise it wouldn't be a beta), but is it really such a problem, or can I already install this one and have an up and running board ?
2) Do we have an idea of when the next beta will come ?
3) If this beta isn't stable enough, will the next one probably be ?
4) If not, when do you plan to have an "OK" version (I didn't stay "stable", I don't speak about a 1.0 but about a "useable" beta).
Thanks in advance,
Kero.
1. Several people are, but I think you'd best answer your question by installing a test first.
2. Sorry, we don't give dates yet.
3. The next beta won't be an RC, if that's what you're asking.
4. I consider the current version usable - hey, it's used here, isn't it? - but, an RC will be coming later.
-[Unknown]
1) Well, I did, but I currently only can try on free hosts, so the problem I have may come from those sh*tty hosts which just can't manage a complex board succesfully, not to mention the ads which can sometimes create some weird stability issues.
2) not even an idea about if its at the end of the month or at the end of the year ? ;)
3) Well, without talking about a RC... but I see that the current version isn't all that bad, so I wondered if the next one would fix a lot of bugs, which would probably allow it to be really useable.
4) Well, yes you're right, and I must admit it seems to do a good job (though 18 queries to show a thread seems A LOT compared to some other BBs, but it seems quite fast and stable which is the most important).
1. Well, what do you think of this forum? Like I said, it's SMF...
2. Oh, I have a pretty concrete idea of about when the next release might happen, generally, but as I said, I'm not going to say.
3. Let's see, 135 143 changes (many bugs fixed...) since the 27th - that's 14 days.
4. Well, which is better - 18 queries for one topic, all simple and cachable, or 10, all slow? Quality over quantity.
-[Unknown]
Quote from: Kero on April 11, 2004, 07:59:43 PM
1) Is this beta stable enough to be used in a public board ? I mean... I know there's still a lot of bugs (otherwise it wouldn't be a beta), but is it really such a problem, or can I already install this one and have an up and running board ?
Stable enough for me. Just installed the upgrade successfully on PinoyDVD (http://www.pinoydvd.com) which has nearly 300,000 posts from more than 6,000 members. I merged the best ideas from several themes and installed a Mambo front end to keep my advertisers happy. Took about 2 days because of look-and-feel tweaking but overall, it was a painless process.
Congratulations to the SMF team -- you guys are amazing!
Quote from: firewired on April 12, 2004, 04:35:10 AM
Quote from: Kero on April 11, 2004, 07:59:43 PM
1) Is this beta stable enough to be used in a public board ? I mean... I know there's still a lot of bugs (otherwise it wouldn't be a beta), but is it really such a problem, or can I already install this one and have an up and running board ?
Stable enough for me. Just installed the upgrade successfully on PinoyDVD (http://www.pinoydvd.com) which has nearly 300,000 posts from more than 6,000 members. I merged the best ideas from several themes and installed a Mambo front end to keep my advertisers happy. Took about 2 days because of look-and-feel tweaking but overall, it was a painless process.
Congratulations to the SMF team -- you guys are amazing!
That's a very impressive board you have there - I like it!
Hey thanks Grudge -- that made my day. Funny thing is, a rival site that uses YaBB SP already parodied it, colors and all. Amazing the lengths that some people will go to just to get a rise from you.
i am starting to like smf more and more :)
thanx team! i am loving it :)
I just wanted to say so far all worked great. No upload issues or anything. Only had one glitch. Was probably my fault. Said index.php was missing after running for awhile. Looked was still there. Reupload it and everything was fine again no problems. Keep up the great work.
This is a question for the devs... I noticed that this site is now using Beta 5. Does this mean that Beta 5 will soon be available for download?
Quote from: Oldiesmann on April 19, 2004, 12:44:54 PM
This is a question for the devs... I noticed that this site is now using Beta 5. Does this mean that Beta 5 will soon be available for download?
You are like Homie. Ya! :P http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=9700.0
Quote from: Oldiesmann on April 19, 2004, 12:44:54 PM
This is a question for the devs... I noticed that this site is now using Beta 5. Does this mean that Beta 5 will soon be available for download?
I suppose logical deductive reasoning could draw you to that conclusion. ;)
Didn't see that topic.
hmmm.... my SMF says that version 5 is released...
When will it be available for download here?
In a few Days :)
Homie, a release date has not been set, stop telling people that it will be released in a few days.