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Customizing SMF => Graphics and Templates => Theme Site Themes => Topic started by: .Darkman on May 09, 2006, 06:42:14 PM

Title: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 09, 2006, 06:42:14 PM
Link to the theme (http://themes.simplemachines.org/index.php?lemma=73)
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthemes.simplemachines.org%2Findex.php%2Faction%2Cdownload%2Flemma%2C73%2Fimage%2Cthumb&hash=073825638b08e626509654f5bfe3ab76)

This is modern=look theme IMO.I was making many themes for a long time and i had many problems.i fixed them all and now o have released Nothea.
Leave your comments here.
A TP version of this theme is available on my forum.
Live Demo - http://gfxindia.com
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 11, 2006, 03:36:53 AM
i hope no one has problems with my theme.
i am happy
i don't want problems
but i want comments please
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: Dannii on May 11, 2006, 05:39:59 AM
The demo forum doesn't look like the icon. (even when changing to the correct theme with the style changer)
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 11, 2006, 06:14:21 AM
yes
actually i made the theme as in the icon.
but then found that it was not working well in tp.
so i changed it.

sorry
i'll soon change the icon
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 12, 2006, 12:05:32 AM
The thumbnail looks allot better than the theme in my opinion.
The theme itself is ok, but layout wise it could be more original.
Also I think the 3 header boxes are from my BlackDay theme and the buttons are Andrea's Simple Black Mini Buttons?
Give credit where it is due.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: penguin007 on May 12, 2006, 03:49:13 AM
This is a ripped theme. :o
Original creator is Zeus00 from IFSZ
His original theme can be found at http://s14.invisionfree.com/TrySkinForum123/index.php?
Also pls give some credits to the original creator/designer at the bottom of ur site and dun claim any themes/designs which u did not make as yours. ;D
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 12, 2006, 08:32:17 PM
so in truth this theme shouldn't really be here.
The original also wouldn't be too hard to port to SMF, but I don't think this classifies for a port.

EDIT: Also I love the thing in the guy's signature that says "Specializing in SMF Themes" lol!
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 13, 2006, 01:54:50 AM
don't shout in jelousy penguin and nesianstyles.
i have the right to convert ifsz skins for smf ;D
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 13, 2006, 02:38:51 AM
If this is a port of a another theme permission from original author has to be aquired.

Do you have permission from Zeus00 to use this on SMF?
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 13, 2006, 03:03:30 AM
don't shout in jelousy penguin and nesianstyles.
I'm not jealous? why would I be?
The buttons are oviously these though: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=6981.0
And the header is this:
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<div id="headerarea" style="padding: 12px 30px 4px 30px;">

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center" width="100%" style="position: relative;">

<tr>

<td colspan="2" valign="bottom" style="padding: 5px; white-space: nowrap;">

<img src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/logo.gif"  width="800" style="float: right;" alt="" />

  <span style="font-family: Georgia, sans-serif; font-size: xx-large;">GFX-India</span>

</td>

</tr>

<tr id="upshrinkHeader">

<td valign="top">

<table width="99%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" class="tborder"><tr>

<td class="titlebg" width="100%">User Info</td></tr><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="windowbg2" style="font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">

Welcome, <b>Guest</b>. Please <a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=login">login</a> or <a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=register">register</a>.<br />

May 13, 2006, 02:56:36 AM<br />



<form action="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=login2" method="post" style="margin: 3px 1ex 1px 0; text-align:right;">

<input type="text" name="user" size="10" /> <input type="password" name="passwrd" size="10" />

<select name="cookielength">

<option value="60">1 Hour</option>

<option value="1440">1 Day</option>

<option value="10080">1 Week</option>

<option value="302400">1 Month</option>

<option value="-1" selected="selected">Forever</option>

</select>

<input type="submit" value="Login" /><br />

Login with username, password and session length

</form>

</td></tr></table>



<form action="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=search2" method="post" style="margin: 0; margin-top: 7px;">

<b>Search: </b><input type="text" name="search" value="" style="width: 190px;" />&nbsp;

<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Search" style="width: 8ex;" />&nbsp;

<a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=search;advanced">Advanced search</a>

<input type="hidden" name="advanced" value="0" />

</form>



</td>

<td width="262" style="padding-left: 5px;" valign="top">

<table width="99%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" class="tborder">

<tr>

<td class="titlebg" width="100%">News Box</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td class="windowbg2" width="100%" style="font-size: x-small">SMF - Just Installed!</td></tr></table>

<br /><table width="99%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" class="tborder">

<tr>

<td class="titlebg" width="100%">Key Stats</td>

</tr>

<tr>

<td class="windowbg2" width="100%" style="font-size: x-small"><b>5</b> Posts in <b>5</b> Topics by <b>3</b> Members<br />

Latest Member: <b> <a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3">robert420</a></b>

</td></tr></table>

</td>

</tr>

</table>

<a href="#" onclick="shrinkHeader(!current_header); return false;"><img id="upshrink" src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/upshrink.gif" alt="*" title="Shrink or expand the header." style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a><img id="upshrinkTemp" src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/blank.gif" alt="" style="margin-right: 1ex;" /> <a href="#" onclick="shrinkHeaderLeftbar(!current_leftbar); return false;"><img id="upshrinkLeftbar" src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/upshrink.gif" alt="*" title="Shrink or expand the header." style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a><img id="upshrinkTempLeftbar" src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/blank.gif" alt="" style="margin-right: 0ex;" />
                     <a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php"><img src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/english/home.gif" alt="Home" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>         <a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=forum"><img src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/english/forum.gif" alt="Forum Index" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>         <a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=help" target="_blank"><img src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/english/help.gif" alt="Help" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>

<a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=search"><img src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/english/search.gif" alt="Search" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>

<a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=login"><img src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/english/login.gif" alt="Login" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>

<a href="http://gfxindia.com/index.php?action=register"><img src="http://gfxindia.com/Themes/Nothea/images/english/register.gif" alt="Register" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>

</div>
And BlackDay's is this:
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<div id="headerarea" style="padding: 12px 30px 4px 30px;">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center" width="100%" style="position: relative;">
<tr>
<td colspan="2" valign="bottom" style="padding: 5px; white-space: nowrap;">
<span style="font-family: Georgia, sans-serif; font-size: xx-large;">NesianDev</span>
</td>
</tr>
<tr id="upshrinkHeader">
<td valign="top">
<table width="99%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" class="tborder"><tr>
<td class="titlebg" width="100%"colspan="2">User Info</td></tr><tr><td valign="middle" class="windowbg"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=dlattach;id=43;type=avatar" alt="" border="0" /></td><td width="100%" valign="top" class="windowbg2" style="font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">
Hey, <b>nesianstyles</b>, you have <a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=pm">17 messages</a>, 0 are new.
<br />Total time logged in: 2 days, 6 hours and 32 minutes.<br />
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=unread">Show unread posts since last visit.</a><br />
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies">Show new replies to your posts.</a><br />
May 13, 2006, 08:55:10 PM
</td></tr></table>

<form action="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=search2" method="post" style="margin: 0; margin-top: 7px;">
<b>Search: </b><input type="text" name="search" value="" style="width: 190px;" />&nbsp;
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Search" style="width: 8ex;" />&nbsp;
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=search;advanced">Advanced search</a>
<input type="hidden" name="advanced" value="0" />
</form>

</td>
<td width="262" style="padding-left: 5px;" valign="top">
<br /><table width="99%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" class="tborder">
<tr>
<td class="titlebg" width="100%">Key Stats</td>
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<tr>
<td class="windowbg2" width="100%" style="font-size: x-small"><b>923</b> Posts in <b>221</b> Topics by <b>208</b> Members<br />
Latest Member: <b> <a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=profile;u=213">null_b</a></b>
</td></tr></table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

<a href="#" onclick="shrinkHeader(!current_header); return false;"><img id="upshrink" src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/upshrink.gif" alt="*" title="Shrink or expand the header." style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a><img id="upshrinkTemp" src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/blank.gif" alt="" style="margin-right: 2ex;" />
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/home.gif" alt="Home" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=help" target="_blank"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/help.gif" alt="Help" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=forum"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/forum.gif" alt="Forum" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=search"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/search.gif" alt="Search" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=downloads"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/download.gif" alt="Downloads" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=admin"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/admin.gif" alt="Admin" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=profile"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/profile.gif" alt="Edit Profile" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=calendar"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/calendar.gif" alt="Calendar" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/index.php?action=logout;sesc=6f236ba710b2be052271449ddda56ff7"><img src="http://dev.nsf.mher.org/Themes/BlackDay/images/english/logout.gif" alt="Logout" style="margin: 2px 0;" border="0" /></a>
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So the difference in headers, is yours is formatted differently, but in essence exactly the same code (except for the banner, which would be easily added). I released BlackDay ages ago with that header. Also note that SlickBlue uses the same header.

I spend time coding that header, because I did it in an odd way back then (it wouldn't take me long now, but that one was poorly formatted).

So even if you do have permission from the original author,
you still are using my header code and andrea's black mini buttons without any credit given and any permission.

~Nesian
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 13, 2006, 04:48:44 AM
erm..I don't think that header code can really be regarded as "yours" nesianstyles. It seems to be more or less the babylon layout - with news box and statsbox setup like that.

Graphics on the other hand is quite another matter. Using buttonsets released here should be mentioned with credit to author.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 13, 2006, 04:53:22 AM
erm..I don't think that header code can really be regarded as "yours" nesianstyles. It seems to be more or less the babylon layout - with news box and statsbox setup like that.
A few people seem to think that, but really it is totally different from the babylon layout.
The only thing the same is what the blocks contain, and where they are themselves.
It uses tables with borders, and acts like the rest of the theme instead of having pointless rounded blocks.
I actually changed it to that so I didn't have to do any extra images, and also it still went with the theme.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 13, 2006, 06:33:56 AM
ok.

I see now its used tables instead of table+divs as in babylon. I would still go on a limb and say the "design" is the same though...but fair enough. The question is then, do you have objections to others lending code to build new themes?

Personally I do not have that - some of my themes have been converted and used in several  others, and that perfectly fine. After all, one has to start somewhere. Regardless if its a copy of default or Amber for example.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 13, 2006, 08:58:10 AM
Now what's the big point here.
the codes i used are done by editing babylon's with a few ideas from blackday.
but that doesn't mean i should give full code-credit for you nesianstyles.
as for buttons andrea released it for public use only.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 13, 2006, 10:30:28 AM
D-for-Darkman..do you have permission to use images from that IPB theme?
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 13, 2006, 05:10:31 PM
The question is then, do you have objections to others lending code to build new themes?
I personally don't, but I would like to ether be asked or have some form of credit.
Also, just cause Andrea released it for public use doesn't mean you don't have to give credit.
As you can see in BlackDay, where I used those buttons I gave credit at the bottom.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 14, 2006, 03:47:25 PM
I never said that public buttons can be used without credit? I said "thats another matter", meaning its more clear that they should come with a credit.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 14, 2006, 04:15:48 PM
I never said that public buttons can be used without credit? I said "thats another matter", meaning its more clear that they should come with a credit.
about that, sorry I was replying to D-for-Darkman's post not yours
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 14, 2006, 04:45:25 PM
ok, np :)
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: kalligator on May 14, 2006, 06:11:27 PM
@D-for-Darkman at least change the thumbnail for starters man, this is so misleading...
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 15, 2006, 01:23:02 AM
@D-for-Darkman at least change the thumbnail for starters man, this is so misleading...
Yes I agree. The thumbnail is different from the actual theme.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 15, 2006, 01:36:19 AM
@D-for-Darkman at least change the thumbnail for starters man, this is so misleading...
Yes I agree. The thumbnail is different from the actual theme.

Of Course
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: Dannii on May 15, 2006, 02:06:18 AM
D-for-Darkman..do you have permission to use images from that IPB theme?
Well?
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 15, 2006, 02:18:24 AM
@D-for-Darkman at least change the thumbnail for starters man, this is so misleading...
Yes I agree. The thumbnail is different from the actual theme.

Of Course
somebody edited my thos post.
actually i replied of course for this question
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D-for-Darkman..do you have permission to use images from that IPB theme?
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 15, 2006, 03:46:01 AM
The only thing you said in relation to permission from the original is the following:
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i have the right to convert ifsz skins for smf
Does that mean you have permission to convert them for SMF from the original author of the theme?
And you still need to credit andrea who did those buttons.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 15, 2006, 05:26:34 AM
D-for-Darkman.

I asked if you could show some kind of permission 2 days ago. If it can't be shown, the theme will be removed.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 15, 2006, 06:58:31 AM
what kind of permission can i show
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: bloc on May 15, 2006, 09:34:15 AM
Well, a forumpost, a quote of the author..anything other than just "I got permission".
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: crazystu on May 15, 2006, 03:45:06 PM
I've send an email to original author.
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: .Darkman on May 16, 2006, 04:15:03 AM
i got the right thru pm at ifsz
Title: Re: Nothea
Post by: URPG on May 22, 2006, 06:47:02 PM
Demo site is not working :(