How dare you!!!

[thenomad]

Sorry, the copyright must be in the template.
Please notify this forum's administrator that this site is using an ILLEGAL copy of SMF!

I did not remove any copyright - maybe if you checked you would have seen that the template was made by somebody else!

The forum I installed has been deliberately disabled by smf which means you have a way to enter my system without my permission. In other words you hacked in.. You can stuff your stupid forum and I'll use something else.

next time though before you throw out obtuse and insulting allegations and attack and HACK someones system to splash your pedantic little message maybe you should check that the template maker has left your stupid link in.

the maker of the template was this person;
Theme Created byTreetopClimber © 2006

You can accuse that person of leaving your link out not me - and be warned, I will be in touch with the relevant authorities in relation to this and will submit any and all server logs to track down who attacked my system. The issue of smf was also installed via Fantastico on C-Panel and I never changed any template.

You can delete my account along with this post (Which I'm sure you will do) But I will make this known on the open source communities. (And yes I know you only claim to be open source in the senve that the source code can be seen).


YOU GUYS ARE SO OUT OF ORDER!!! What a bunch of jerks......

AND YOU CAN REST ASSURED YOUR FORUM IS COMING OF MY SERVER RIGHT NOW!!!!

[JayBachatero]

Before you start screaming why don't be smart enough to actually download the correct theme for the correct version of the system.  And for the record WE did not hack your forum.  The system checks to see if the copyright is there.  Before you come screaming at us get your facts straight.

[Gary]

Exactly.

Themes for 1.0.x DO NOT work for 1.1 and vice versa. I'd suggest that you check the version for SMF against that of your theme. And upgrade SMF/Your theme as appropriate.

I suggest you get your facts right before throwing accusations.

-AwwLilMaggie

[Harzem]

SMF checks itself whether the copyright is there or not.

Try this: switch to the default theme. Open index.template.php file in default theme directory, find:

theme_copyright()

and replace with

' '

then see if we instantaneously hacked it or it is SMF itself that couldn't find the copyright.

And if you are so easy to blame people, don't use any software at all. And we will be waiting for your "server logs" to see who "hacked (!)" your site.

[thenomad]

strange ho wmy second post in reply was mysteriously deleted - figures....

well instead of accusing someone who is innocent and was not using your software ILLEGALLY maybe you should set that part of the script to send a FRIENDLY note to the admin e-mail address informing them of the issue.

What sort of reaction do you expect when someone sees YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING ILLEGAL - BASICALLY CALLING THEM A THIEF???

First theer going to think some jerk has been at there system second there going to come here and let fly. (AND you deserver it for being nasty)..

This was installed vai FAntastico. It offered an upgrade. That made treetops template invalid ..

THAT WAS NOT MY FAULT!!!! I di nothing Illegal yet you have accused me of doing something ILLEGAL via that note..

That is SLANDER plain and simple.

Your software has been changed to a more reputable one that doe snot Falsley accuse people of doing something they have not.

I would suggest that in your next upgrade you take a much nicer approach...

[Dannii]

What version of SMF are you using? What is your theme's version? Do they match?

[Gary]

Listen,

The text might have appeared by mistake.

I said, that themes for 1.1 NOT compatable with 1.0 and guess what, Fantastico installs 1.0.8.

Learn to think clearly before you throw accusations around.

-AwwLilMaggie

[JayBachatero]

I think you need some help.  None of your posts have been deleted.  I looked over all your post and you only have 3 posts.

[Harro]

Will you also sue Microsoft if you don't active your windows xp version and you can't use it anymore after 30 days?
Not activating is your own fault, installing a wrong theme aswell!

[Kindred]

you know, before you ever upgrade or add to a system, you need to check to make sure you know what you are doing...  That seems like Webmaster 101.

As for the message...   it's not particularly nasty, and, if the copyright IS missing, then you HAVE done something illegal (specifically, the copyright must be shown on every smf page).
If you had bothered to do a search of this forum, or merely ASKED why it would be showing that message before spouting off you would hve known the issue. Since quite a number of people have encountered a similar situation, and you seem to be the only one who started screaming and threatening legal action...
(and you really need to study up on your legal stuff... it's not slander. Slander is spoken, Libel is written, and both of them have to be untrue to be considered. Neither applies in this case since the fact of the matter is that your copyright was not being displayed, which is a violation of the SMF license agreement, which makes the use of SMF illegal, just as the message indicated.)

As for what the webmaster might think...   I would assume that the first thing the webmaster woudl think is "hmmm, what did I do that caused this message to appear?"
Oh, and removing the software from your system is a perfectly acceptable method of correcting and repsonding to the illegal use of SMF.  

If this is the way you behave, then I hope the "more reputable one" enjoys you...

[thenomad]

actually removing the software is the correct responce to being falsely accused of doing somethin g I did not - acting Illegally.

Admin can delete my account etc....

[Dannii]

Please answer my question, what versions were you using?

[thenomad]

Please answer my question, what versions were you using?

whatever fantastico installed and then upgraded to 1.0.8 I presume that being your most recent issue - the template was added AFTER this....

The point is yes I was bloody angry at being accused of doing something I had not done and for that I apoligise but to plaster a message like that when someone is completly innocent si totally wrong and can lead to irretrievable damage to someones system.

That is reprehensible especially if that person is innocent of any wrong doing as I was and am. As I stated a far more reasonable and friendly approach would be to have your clever script instead of insulting and slandering a user by displaying this image simply send an e-mail to the administrator se-mail informing them of the problem.

Had I recieved such an e-mail I would have come here and KINDLY asked what the fault was. As it is I've binned your forum (Which did look promising btw) and will use something else in it's place.

That is because you, the forum makers presumed that because your credit/copyright link was missing that you have the right to insult and slander someoen using your software. I understand fully that there are unscroupuless people and steps do have to be taken but there are also innocent people like myself who you will accuse in the process.


Maybe that is an issue you should look at.

I will though in hindsight offer my apoligies for my (though somewhat justified) anger.

[Dannii]

How are we going to know to email you? It is entirely automated by your installation of SMF itself. If you had not posted here we would have had no idea that anything was wrong. And the message is harmless, it cannot do "irretrievable damage to someones system".

You still haven't told us what version of SMF the theme was designed for..

[Gary]

That is reprehensible especially if that person is innocent of any wrong doing as I was and am. As I stated a far more reasonable and friendly approach would be to have your clever script instead of insulting and slandering a user by displaying this image simply send an e-mail to the administrator se-mail informing them of the problem.

The copyright has always been like that, even with YaBB SE I think (I wasnt around for YaBB SE. It's not insulting or anything is saying;

"Looks like you removed our copyright, thus have broken the lisence agreement, please replace it or contact us on how to put it back ASAP."

That is because you, the forum makers presumed that because your credit/copyright link was missing that you have the right to insult and slander someoen using your software. I understand fully that there are unscroupuless people and steps do have to be taken but there are also innocent people like myself who you will accuse in the process.

The text does not insult or slander the user. I mean does "The copyright must be in the template. Please contact this forums administrator that this forum is using an illegal copy of SMF!" insult anyone?

Had I recieved such an e-mail I would have come here and KINDLY asked what the fault was. As it is I've binned your forum (Which did look promising btw) and will use something else in it's place.

As eldʌkaː said, the copyright is auto-generated. If you didnt post here we wouldnt have known, we are not notified when someone removes or alters the copyright, both which violate the lisence which you agreed to when installing SMF.

Anyway, there a number of reasons why that message appears even without editing the template. I once had a friend who installed SMF and installed a theme, the copyright was there, yet, the message appeared. Why? Because his SMF Installation was on 1.0.8, but the theme I made for him was 1.1 RC3. And the issue was sorted in the space of 5 minutes.

Check to see if your theme is for 1.1.

-AwwLilMaggie

[Trekkie101]

The "illegal notice" is in the SMF source code, we here at Simple Machines don't have a detector to see it. Your forum displays it to you and your users and asks them to notify us. Using search engines we find offending sites and then email the admin asking for the copyright to be added back and if they need help in doing so, we help.

We aren't evil and do understand its not your fault, but your completely making an arse of yourself and taking this way out of prepotion for an auto generated message from the source thats already on your site.

I suggest you go have a coffee and cool down a bit.

[1web]

Geez, I had the same text appear on my login page when I was tweaking various pages to get the effect I wanted. I also hadn't removed any copyright, but I came here and ASKED what I might've done and how to fix it. Someone instantly replied with a suggestion to re-upload a couple specific pages, which I did, and the message disappeared.

I'm still not sure exactly what triggered it since I positively didn't mess with any copyright notice--I'm an author and take ALL copyrights seriously!  --but since I got the help I needed to correct the problem it didn't make my hysterical.

Of course, since I own my own domains I also took the page offline instantly till I got it straightened out...

[Fizzy]

I agree with Trekkie.

I would add that as a webmaster any user of SMF is responsible for their actions on their own site. If those actions infringe a copyright because they have failed to install correctly or have installed something which has caused the damage then the responsibility lies only with the webmaster.

Ignorance is not a defence in law.

Install an illegal hack and you are responsible, not the makers of the software which is telling you about the illegal act. Whether you wrote it or just installed it in ignorance is not a defence.

SMF has a licence agreement. Users agree to that licence when you use the software. If a user then decides to modify the files which causes SMF to indicate the truth about the fact that it is indeed an illegal copy of SMF (by failing to display the copyright) then by your coming on to SMF and accusing the team here of illegal hacking of your site IS slander.

Most users are like 1web here. They make an error and immediately come here for assistance in sorting the problem out- hopefully we can help them resolve it. I didn't see 1web accusing anyone of slander or hacking.

[Kindred]

point of order which appears to have been lost in my post...

Slander is verbal
Libel is written

[Ben_S]

This isn't really going anywhere so I'll lock it.

As other have pointed out, the notice is generated automatically.