nneonneo's Shoutbox

Arantor · January 16, 2012, 08:22:45 AM

Unless you have permission to distribute the updated mod, from the author, you will have to remove that update, I'm afraid.

radzior · January 17, 2012, 04:46:29 AM

are u police or something? show me your batch if so

or even better show me where's the license for this shoutbox

Arantor · January 17, 2012, 05:21:49 AM

I'm not police, but I can readily call the moderators in to remove the link.

That's the point, there IS no licence for the mod. In absence of that, the rule has always been to follow the SMF licence for modifications, which means no derived works and no redistribution (which is basically what copyright law would provide for too)

mcrat · January 17, 2012, 06:35:02 AM

I just installed SB_1.22b on default curve 2.02 and it seems to be working fine?

radzior · January 17, 2012, 09:45:08 AM

Quote from: mcrat on January 17, 2012, 06:35:02 AM
I just installed SB_1.22b on default curve 2.02 and it seems to be working fine?

Yeah, regulat SB will do its just AdvSB that makes problems on 2.0.2

Quote from: arrowtotheknee on January 17, 2012, 05:21:49 AM
I'm not police, but I can readily call the moderators in to remove the link.

That's the point, there IS no licence for the mod. In absence of that, the rule has always been to follow the SMF licence for modifications, which means no derived works and no redistribution (which is basically what copyright law would provide for too)

Well why you just dont call in the author of this mod so he can speak for himself

PLUS

My derived work adds functionality for SMF 2.0.2 which is released under this license:

QuoteBSD License (SMF 2.0+)
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Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimers.
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U dick I'm thinking if you're not the police you must be a secret agent working for government or microsoft... call your mods I don't care if I get banned coz I have 0 respect for brown-nosers and snitches like u

Arantor · January 17, 2012, 12:05:31 PM

It doesn't matter that you've released your work under BSD, the original isn't, and as such you do not have any right to redistribute code as such. If the original author had left a suitable licence, I wouldn't be bringing this up.

And the original author hasn't been around here for a long time. It is because of arrogance and disrespect from people like you, of not adhering to the terms of licences that SMF used to have its own no-fork, no-redistribute licence.

Kindred · January 17, 2012, 01:54:33 PM

Let me make an official statement, if that's what you need to see.

Regardless of what the SMF license is... mods are licensed individually and do not have to follow the SMF license.
Any mod that does not indicate a specific license will default to the most restrictive license (no redistribution without permission).

Additionally, we have never allowed for users to redistribute a mod as an attachment in the message threads.
We have a very specific process for submitting, validating and accepting mods... mods as attachments bypass this process and thus, are not allowed.

As for the rest of it... Watch your language. There is no need for name calling or attitude like that. Arrow was very nice in his first message to you and your attack was uncalled for. If it continues, you WILL be banned.

Hotman · January 17, 2012, 07:18:00 PM

Hello , I would like to ask something

I am using SMF 2.0.2 version .

I have downloaded the latest version of this shoutbox (SB_1.22b)

I am using also default theme.

Does it work properly? Because I won't to damage my files. Thanks

Kindred · January 17, 2012, 08:45:54 PM

it will probably work.... since it was updated for 2.0 - but there are no guarantees.

Con · January 18, 2012, 08:26:02 AM

Ehm.. is OP on a long vacation or did he abandon this mod?

radzior · January 18, 2012, 05:54:23 PM

sorry, so how (can?) we fork this mod?

Arantor · January 18, 2012, 05:56:56 PM

You can try asking the author for permission, but I don't think anyone's heard from him in a long while, meaning that if your intention is to distribute one, you're probably better off writing one from scratch and using a BSD licence in the process (then there's absolutely no debate on ownership)

There are also other advantages to writing it from scratch as opposed to using a pre-built one, you can do things you wouldn't necessarily be able to do otherwise - it's possible with the changes in SMF 2.0 to write such a shoutbox with few (if any) edits to files in the system, but use the template layers and hooks to perform the integration.

endus · January 20, 2012, 02:16:59 PM

The issue with this breaking autocomplete is really becoming a problem for me. I love this mod and want to keep it, but if the author is not maintaining it anymore I am going to have to look for alternatives. I mean, hey, it's free and I don't mean to be a nudge but I really do need to get this fixed. Would love to iron out the bug.

Colask8 · February 01, 2012, 02:38:06 PM

My users dont have access to it.. Whats wrong? I see shoutbox but they dont :S Its something with permissions? FIXD!

EDIT: So is there anyway to implement some text colors for users? We used to have vbulletin and they're used to modify their text xD

BCK · February 10, 2012, 06:03:14 PM

use bb code for color...brackets with "color=red" and "/color" in them with whatever color replacing the red?

red blue etc

Buddymc · March 08, 2012, 03:18:48 PM

I just installed this a few hours ago on 2.0.2. It works great. But I am the only one that can see it and I can not find how to set it for others to see.

Kindred · March 08, 2012, 03:41:29 PM

permissions

Buddymc · March 08, 2012, 03:51:06 PM

Quote from: Kindred on March 08, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
permissions

Ok,
Let me phrase this another way. I go under permission and see General, board, edit profiles, and settings. I looked under all 4 of those and see nothing pertaining to the shout box.
Still new to SMF software and do not fully understand it yet.

Kindred · March 08, 2012, 03:55:40 PM

under general permissions, you have a list of each membergroup

click modify and then find the shoutbox permission and set it (must be done for each membergroup which has its own permissions)

Buddymc · March 08, 2012, 04:11:37 PM

Quote from: Kindred on March 08, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
under general permissions, you have a list of each membergroup

click modify and then find the shoutbox permission and set it (must be done for each membergroup which has its own permissions)

Now that was very helpful and showed me stuff I did not know was there. Been wondering how to do the permission.
Thanks much.

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