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Started by Chief, July 09, 2004, 07:56:26 PM

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Chief

This question derived from "Can I reuse already translated sentence?" on this board. I hope, moderators split a part of it to here.

In English it looks like:
1,21,31...101...121... day
0,2-20,22-30,32-40...92-100,102-120... days.

In Russian:
1,21,31...101...121... den
2-4,22-24,32-34...102-104,122-124... dnya
0,5-20,25-30,35-40...105-120,125-130... dney
(To avoid character table problems, I using not Russian, but Ruglish)

Other languages have its own rules, I think.
My friends talk that similar problem may be in German.
Oops...

Cerberus

It's a problem, common to all the languages, which contain cases (nominative, dative, accusative....)
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[Unknown]

Quote from: Cerberus on July 12, 2004, 08:40:09 AM
It's a problem, common to all the languages, which contain cases (nominative, dative, accusative....)

How do the current German language files work around this?

-[Unknown]

Cerberus

I don't know and I wil not be able to understand because I don't know German ::)
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andrea

Quote from: Chief on July 09, 2004, 07:56:26 PM
In English it looks like:
1,21,31...101...121... day
0,2-20,22-30,32-40...92-100,102-120... days.

In Russian:
1,21,31...101...121... den
2-4,22-24,32-34...102-104,122-124... dnya
0,5-20,25-30,35-40...105-120,125-130... dney
(To avoid character table problems, I using not Russian, but Ruglish)

Other languages have its own rules, I think.
My friends talk that similar problem may be in German.

Quote from: [Unknown] on July 16, 2004, 10:09:01 AM
How do the current German language files work around this?

What issue is this discussion about? I don't understand it - please explain.

Andrea Hubacher
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Chief

Hi, Andrea.
This topic about congruence of numbers and words (they forms) in different languages.
Examples shows the cases of English and Russian. So, in Russian I need to use 3 forms of word with different numbers. It's a problem like using in English only plural form anywere. And I see that developers not interested for this :(
Oops...

Cerberus

I don't know exactly, but I guess that it would be very difficult to force smf to choose a specific translation for a certain number :( :(
Best Regards, Cerberus
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Pocket PC Russia

[Unknown]

I always thought German didn't have a problem with this, but does it?

The problem is:

0 things.
1 thing.
2 things.

Is English.  In another language, it might be:

0 thingz.
1 thing.
2 things.

Meaning, zero - or a set with zero - might take a different plural than two would.

-[Unknown]

andrea

#8
So it is about the plural. Thanks guys for the explanations.

Quote from: Hector Gonsales on July 20, 2004, 02:08:25 PM
0 things.
1 thing.
2 things.

In german:

0 Dinge
1 Ding
2 Dinge
3 Dinge
...
10 Dinge
11 Dinge
...

The nominative plural is all equal from 2 on. Also zero has the normal plural.

Andrea Hubacher
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Cerberus

So German has cases, but they use cases in a different way ::)
Best Regards, Cerberus
YaBB Gold -> YaBB 1.1 -> YaBB SE (YaPP -> PfaBB) -> SMF
Pocket PC Russia

[Unknown]

I knew I was bad at German, but I was hoping I wasn't so bad as to have missed a second plural for zeros... had to ask though.

-[Unknown]

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