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My opinion on SMF

Started by Golden_Helmet, September 21, 2004, 06:01:36 PM

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RuneBlast

My opinion on SMF is short nd simple :P

Its the best :)

24-7GT.com

smf is the best free but vbulletin is the best paid if u know what i mean.

Dannii

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Xarcell

vBulletin seems better on the outside, but not on the inside. SMF seems real good on the inside, and ok on the outside.

SMF is free and vBullentin isn't.

SMF is the best by far, in my overall opinion. No other forum can compare.

SMF is also getting better, at a faster rate than vBullentin. Just my opinion of course.

Waiting for SMF 2.0 [drools]...


rsalafi

I'm sorry if my English is not very good.

I have used phpBB 2.0.x before but it doesn't have attachment feature, but this feature is available in phpbb v.3.x but in my opinion smf is still the best.

I have made some modification to phpbb and i want to do that for smf, and when I look into the source code, GREAT!!! the author made very useful comments on the source code, it is very helpful!!!

Keep up your good works!!!

Fiery

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vBulletin seems better on the outside, but not on the inside. SMF seems real good on the inside, and ok on the outside.


How can SMF improve on the outside?  We appreciate any input.

Thanks

Stargater59

vBulletin has many more features. I drool over their control panel. But that's paid. As far as free goes, SMF is the best. There's some features in other forum softwares that I really wish SMF has. But, in SMF 2.0 most of the features are being added :)

One thing that I wished was different in SMF, was the Admin CP. I personally don't like how it goes with the rest of the forums theme. I like it more where it's separate. And everywhere you look you see buttons to change options. 

But if nothing else, SMF has one feature that none other has. And that's it's SSI function. I love it. And most of all, I do love SMF. It's a great software, and I'll be sticking to it for a long time.

青山 素子

Quote from: Stargater59 on November 06, 2007, 01:41:29 AM
vBulletin has many more features. I drool over their control panel. But that's paid. As far as free goes, SMF is the best. There's some features in other forum softwares that I really wish SMF has. But, in SMF 2.0 most of the features are being added :)

I find vBulletin's ACP to be awfully designed, it is just link soup.

You are welcome to mention what features you find missing in SMF.
Motoko-chan
Director, Simple Machines

Note: Unless otherwise stated, my posts are not representative of any official position or opinion of Simple Machines.


Kindred

Quote from: Stargater59 on November 06, 2007, 01:41:29 AM
One thing that I wished was different in SMF, was the Admin CP. I personally don't like how it goes with the rest of the forums theme. I like it more where it's separate. And everywhere you look you see buttons to change options. 

???   I think an organized CP is must better than just throwing buttons around the screen...
Also, why should the admin be separate form the theme? It's part of the board....

On the other hand, if you want the admin to look different, you can do that, using the SMF theme/template system, I just don't think it should be made to look different by default.
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babjusi

Quote from: Motoko-chan link=topic=16971.msg1299390#msg1299390
You are welcome to mention what features you find missing in SMF.
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I think that SMF misses a restore back up function at the ACP, other than that I think it is complete. About that  restore back up function I mentioned, it is not that I miss it personally, but cruising through the topics and posts here, I have seen a lot of people having problems with restoring the backup and I think it would help them a lot

青山 素子

So... You'd be required to do a full install before being able to blow that away and restore?
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babjusi

Quote from: Motoko-chan on November 06, 2007, 09:54:44 AM
So... You'd be required to do a full install before being able to blow that away and restore?

I am not sure I understood what you meant Motoko-chan. But what I had in mind is something like I have seen at another forum software. For example, if someone messes up his forum and looses everything, then by re-installing a fresh smf, he/she would be able to go to the acp and restore the backup from the restore option. So the forum would get up and running from the same exact point that the backup was made. However I am aware that this can not be achived if the backup is large but it would be nice for people who are beginners

metallica48423

or the fact that your can't get to the adminCP if the database fatal errors :P
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babjusi

Quote from: BlackMage on November 06, 2007, 12:59:50 PM
or the fact that your can't get to the adminCP if the database fatal errors :P

BlackMage, none of that matters. Because, as I said above, if someone has database fatal errors or any other kind of errors for that matter, they can re-install the forum from the very begin and then restore the backup from the acp. Now, that is the beauty of having such an option, isn''t it? ;)

Stargater59

Quote from: Motoko-chan on November 06, 2007, 02:07:56 AM
Quote from: Stargater59 on November 06, 2007, 01:41:29 AM
vBulletin has many more features. I drool over their control panel. But that's paid. As far as free goes, SMF is the best. There's some features in other forum softwares that I really wish SMF has. But, in SMF 2.0 most of the features are being added :)

I find vBulletin's ACP to be awfully designed, it is just link soup.

You are welcome to mention what features you find missing in SMF.
Quote from: ܝܠܕܟ on November 06, 2007, 08:36:26 AM
The vB admin panel is a bad example of how it could be separated from the main forum. I agree it's icky. There could be better examples perhaps.

Well I'm not saying the Admin CP has to be designed exactly like vB's. But to me, is just looks more profession having the Admin CP separated like that.  But that's just my own opinion.

Kindred

how does it look "more professional"? to have the admin in a different layoout/look from the forum?
Personally, I feel it is more professional to keep the look/theme throughout. (you don't have a different layout for windows control panel, or for Mac controls, for that matter)

However, as I stated above... if you really want it, it could be done using the theme engine...   so go ahead and request someone to make you a theme that does it... (or do so yourself).
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babjusi

Quote from: Kindred on November 06, 2007, 01:25:36 PM
how does it look "more professional"? to have the admin in a different layoout/look from the forum?
Personally, I feel it is more professional to keep the look/theme throughout. (you don't have a different layout for windows control panel, or for Mac controls, for that matter)


Totally agree with every word kindred said. Some time ago, i had a look at the acp of vbulletin and ipb. And what I thought was precisely what was described above by kindred.
Smf acp, especially the 2.0, beats them all. No doubt about that

青山 素子

Quote from: babjusi on November 06, 2007, 01:15:37 PM
BlackMage, none of that matters. Because, as I said above, if someone has database fatal errors or any other kind of errors for that matter, they can re-install the forum from the very begin and then restore the backup from the acp. Now, that is the beauty of having such an option, isn''t it? ;)

I suppose some people might find it useful, but I think it is rather silly to have to do a full install just to do a restore. If you do that, you lose all the mods and any custom code. If you have thse files backed up, then is is doubly silly (upload the files and do the install so you can restore the db and re-upload the changed files).

This doesn't mean it isn't something we would refuse to do, but I'm just calling into question the utility of the feature, especially when there are so many dedicated SQL restore tools around.
Motoko-chan
Director, Simple Machines

Note: Unless otherwise stated, my posts are not representative of any official position or opinion of Simple Machines.


babjusi

@Motoko-chan, I understand your point of view, and I think the same by the way. However, as I stated above, it is not that I miss it personally, but I have come across plenty of posts here when users had problems with restoring the backup and don''t forget that a lot of people are just starting out and don''t have a clue about those many dedicated SQL restore tools around. So for them it is not so silly to do a full install just to do a restore. Anyway, I just stated what I thought that smf misses in my opinion, that is all

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