Will SMF 2.0 have the theme used in this forum?

[Alexander]

SMF 2.0 looks great.

Will SMF 2.0 have this theme used on this forum as the new default theme or is it the same theme as in previous versions?

[codenaught]

No definite decision has been made regarding the default theme for 2.0.

The SMF Site Default Theme

[Alexander]

No definite decision has been made regarding the default theme for 2.0.

The SMF Site Default Theme

Alright. Thanks for the answer.

[choloman05]

I hope this is the new default.  It'd be a HUGE improvement.

[Alexander]

I hope this is the new default.  It'd be a HUGE improvement.

Agreed. A fresh new theme for a 2.0 release should be.

[karlbenson]

Hopefully, once the bugs are ironed out.

[Dannii]

Oh I sure hope not. Almost nothing but the graphics have changed. And even the graphics aren't that great (see the dodgy corners at the top?)

[shadow82x]

Yeah I'm expecting a bit more for the new default (if there is one) I like how the header is aligned but I feel as of more should be changed like maybe a new look/feel for the message index and better graphics.

[choloman05]

just don't use .jpegs please.  How come smf uses them now? Doesn't seem to make sense.

[shadow82x]

just don't use .jpegs please.  How come smf uses them now? Doesn't seem to make sense.

I have always tried to figure that out too. In IRC I never got an answer.

[karlbenson]

I did notice 2.0 comes with the pngfix by default.  So there is no reason why themes can't use pngs anymore.

[choloman05]

Well you can still use .png's or .gif's or whatever you want. You just have to change the css.

[青山 素子]

just don't use .jpegs please.  How come smf uses them now? Doesn't seem to make sense.

I have always tried to figure that out too. In IRC I never got an answer.

General view (not necessarily an official word):

JPEGs are sadly the most portable items across all browsers (you still have to cater to IE). PNG files with alpha transparency plain don't work on IE6 and below and a few small browsers. PNG files with a one-bit transparency (on/off) often show the wrong color shade in the transparent region in IE6 and below (it happens, I've seen it many times). GIF files had a patent problem for some time (Unisys owned a patent), making it difficult for non-commercial graphics programs to save to GIF. I believe the built-in gd library in PHP still doesn't support gif format even now that all the patents have expired.

JPEG, simply, has been the format with the least amount of technical problems and the only sure format that all browsers could work in. Luckily, now that IE7 supports PNG files properly (dunno about the color shifting, I haven't tried testing yet), there is a renewed interest in using this format.

[choloman05]

Hm.  Interesting, thanks for the explanation.  But is it really that advantageous from a technical standpoint to use jpegs when virtually every other software program out there does not use jpegs ?  I can't think of a single instance on the web where I've seen .jpegs used for anything put photos.

[青山 素子]

Hm.  Interesting, thanks for the explanation.  But is it really that advantageous from a technical standpoint to use jpegs when virtually every other software program out there does not use jpegs ?  I can't think of a single instance on the web where I've seen .jpegs used for anything put photos.

Covering 1.1 and 1.0, most of the small images are gif anyway. The major jpeg images are gradients.

[choloman05]

Yeah that's true.