Topic: smf vs phpbb3

[Jade Elizabeth]

Wow that's sexy code

[SleePy]

I got to say I like the way phpbb3 has done some of their code. its in nice small sections so you can very easily disable something. I don't like classes or oop so its not my favorite style of what they have done.
The look is ok, I wouldn't of chosen it personally but it is very clean and doesn't us tables in the wrong places. They have taken some steps to hopefully be better at security, that is good considering their past I see them attempting to change what people see wrong with phpbb. Though I can only say they will have issues as long as they use gpl and allow other developers to take their work and mod the hell out of it.

But for in it all, I say they have done a good job and have sparked interest in other projects for the features they have at the  moment thats others don't have. Because of this I know people will request features for smf to have that phpbb has and thats cool

[gemigene]

phpbb team's attitude leaves a lot to be desired. this is true both on their site and in the way they deal with user's requests. (a nice example is their stubborn refusal to even consider quick-reply)

Their attitude does stink, just take a look at the number of threads which have been locked due to criticism.

This kind of attitude will push a lot of newbies and non-techies into trying out other forum software.

Also has the worse permission system I've ever seen, way too complex for nothing.

Gene

[Jade Elizabeth]

phpbb team's attitude leaves a lot to be desired. this is true both on their site and in the way they deal with user's requests. (a nice example is their stubborn refusal to even consider quick-reply)

Their attitude does stink, just take a look at the number of threads which have been locked due to criticism.

This kind of attitude will push a lot of newbies and non-techies into trying out other forum software.

Also has the worse permission system I've ever seen, way too complex for nothing.

Gene

I agree on all fronts. I was with them for ages...YEARS...and my forum looked like the default and I felt I could never ask for help. I've been with SMF for 6 months and my forum looks like it could be a new version, it's highly customised, and I feel safe to ask for help (or ask stupid questions lol)....However, their code IS sexy lol

[gemigene]

I agree on all fronts. I was with them for ages...YEARS...and my forum looked like the default and I felt I could never ask for help. I've been with SMF for 6 months and my forum looks like it could be a new version, it's highly customised, and I feel safe to ask for help (or ask stupid questions lol)....However, their code IS sexy lol

I was with them for years also and could Mod the heck out of ver. 2.0.22 and when Ver. 3 final was released, I was quite confused for they've changed just about everything. Many a times did I post my questions on their forum but to no avail, except for the odd "search is your friend" type of answer.

Thing is, I searched before asking any of my questions and usually ended-up with 50 pages of posts which didn't reveal any solutions. When I started a thread about the lack of help (and the number of 0 answer posts on their forum), the thread was locked and I was issued a "warning" by a Moderator who is probably a big fan of Adolf Hitler. I PM'd this Nazi to explain how I (and probably hundreds of other users) felt about the lack of help, I was issued a second warning with the following: "arguing with a Moderator is prohibited and consider this as another warning". Darn it, who was arguing? I was only trying to find some kind of justification.

I've been running quite a few forums (especially on psychological issues) with at least 2 Moderators on each and we had a rule, no 0 answer post.

The hell with phpBB and I hope that more people will move on to other forum software.

Sorry, peed-off...
Gene

[青山 素子]

If we didn't before, we just hit Godwin's Law.

Also, gemigene, please try and keep the comparisons in check with the level they are worth. I'm sure the moderator wasn't near as bad as a dedicated member of the Nazi Party. At least, I wouldn't think they normally would plan genocide against an entire religion. Maybe considerations about kicking an animal, but mass genocide? That's the realm of the Magnificent Bastard. 

BTW, welcome to SMF. Please don't take us too seriously.

[Ricky.]

Well... I started with phpBB ..
Was for long with phpBB in start, there if some member knows solution to your problem then it is OK but if no member knows answer then you are on your own because mods / developer are lil stuburn there ..

Also, its been years and years.. phpBB3 is actually trying to overcome all mistakes they did last and one of the outcome is nice coding.
However .. it makes it little slow (very slow in terms of development) ..

On other side.. SMF is fast.. its works .. sometimes being fast .. makes code little messy.. but can do clean later on .. thinking the best efficient way to implement jobs !!

[Jade Elizabeth]

I agree on all fronts. I was with them for ages...YEARS...and my forum looked like the default and I felt I could never ask for help. I've been with SMF for 6 months and my forum looks like it could be a new version, it's highly customised, and I feel safe to ask for help (or ask stupid questions lol)....However, their code IS sexy lol

I was with them for years also and could Mod the heck out of ver. 2.0.22 and when Ver. 3 final was released, I was quite confused for they've changed just about everything. Many a times did I post my questions on their forum but to no avail, except for the odd "search is your friend" type of answer.

Thing is, I searched before asking any of my questions and usually ended-up with 50 pages of posts which didn't reveal any solutions. When I started a thread about the lack of help (and the number of 0 answer posts on their forum), the thread was locked and I was issued a "warning" by a Moderator who is probably a big fan of Adolf Hitler. I PM'd this Nazi to explain how I (and probably hundreds of other users) felt about the lack of help, I was issued a second warning with the following: "arguing with a Moderator is prohibited and consider this as another warning". Darn it, who was arguing? I was only trying to find some kind of justification.

I've been running quite a few forums (especially on psychological issues) with at least 2 Moderators on each and we had a rule, no 0 answer post.

The hell with phpBB and I hope that more people will move on to other forum software.

Sorry, peed-off...
Gene

I'm afraid of that with 2.0...It's so new...I don't know if I will be able to figure it all out...I mean, I've looked at the 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 files...I know what to expect, but these are foreign..

[gemigene]

If we didn't before, we just hit Godwin's Law.

Also, gemigene, please try and keep the comparisons in check with the level they are worth. I'm sure the moderator wasn't near as bad as a dedicated member of the Nazi Party.

Hmm, how's this for a reason for closing a thread:

We welcome constructive criticism, but only if you are willing to change your initial opinion as well.

Does that mean users may criticize just as long as you also agree that your criticism is wrong???

BTW, welcome to SMF. Please don't take us too seriously.

LOL! Thanks. I also believe in not taking things too seriously but really get annoyed when someone pulls something like the above example on me...

Cheers,
Gene

[gemigene]

I'm afraid of that with 2.0...It's so new...I don't know if I will be able to figure it all out...I mean, I've looked at the 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 files...I know what to expect, but these are foreign..

I don't think you should worry too much Alundra, I'm sure you'll find a lot of help here. Out of over 20 questions I've asked on this forum (when I made the transition from phpBB to SMF), only 1 was left unanswered so far.

Gene

[gemigene]

Was for long with phpBB in start, there if some member knows solution to your problem then it is OK but if no member knows answer then you are on your own because mods / developer are lil stuburn there ..

Agreed, even though I've had a few (not many) good answers from one Moderator.

On other side.. SMF is fast.. its works .. sometimes being fast .. makes code little messy.. but can do clean later on .. thinking the best efficient way to implement jobs !!

The code is a little messy but works like a charm. Can't wait for the new version to be released.

Cheers,
Gene

[Jade Elizabeth]

I'm afraid of that with 2.0...It's so new...I don't know if I will be able to figure it all out...I mean, I've looked at the 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 files...I know what to expect, but these are foreign..

I don't think you should worry too much Alundra, I'm sure you'll find a lot of help here. Out of over 20 questions I've asked on this forum (when I made the transition from phpBB to SMF), only 1 was left unanswered so far.

Gene

That's not exactly what I'm worried about.

I have had this forum for 6 months ish, and it still takes me 5 minutes to find things in the admin panel, and sometimes I still have to ask/search  . lol I find it funny, but still...I just don't adjust to change well, so it may take me a while

Also, the current mod creators....are they going to update/upgrade their mods? Or run away?

[gemigene]

That's not exactly what I'm worried about.

I have had this forum for 6 months ish, and it still takes me 5 minutes to find things in the admin panel, and sometimes I still have to ask/search  . lol I find it funny, but still...I just don't adjust to change well, so it may take me a while

Just as long as they didn't make it as complex as the new phpBB version, cripes, you almost have to study Quantum Physics just to get around permissions. LOL!

Also, the current mod creators....are they going to update/upgrade their mods? Or run away?

Remains to be seen...

Cheers,
Gene

[Jade Elizabeth]

I'm thinking most will run...there ARE, however, a few dedicated ones.

[metallica48423]

I have had this forum for 6 months ish, and it still takes me 5 minutes to find things in the admin panel, and sometimes I still have to ask/search  .

You'll love being able to search for a setting then

[gemigene]

I have had this forum for 6 months ish, and it still takes me 5 minutes to find things in the admin panel, and sometimes I still have to ask/search  .

You'll love being able to search for a setting then

LOL! On SMF 2? Can't wait to see that. Mind you, can't be worse than phpBB 3's permission system.

[gemigene]

I'm thinking most will run...there ARE, however, a few dedicated ones.

Yup, and according to what I read on the forum, seems that some are already incorporated in Ver. 2

We'll have to wait and see...

[Gary]

Some mods have been updated to work with 2.0 and so far only one theme. ;P

[gemigene]

Some mods have been updated to work with 2.0 and so far only one theme. ;P

I stuck with the default theme, mods are easier to apply to it and my members like the looks of it.

What the heck, if it ain't broke... LOL!

[Dannii]

Well, the default theme is broken...