Recent Downtime

[Smith6612]

dschwab9 I hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of questions about the failure.

What was the motherboard brand / model that had the thermal management failure? If this was an Intel chip I thought they had built into the core throttle control to prevent overheating.

Was there a reason to use the fan speed thermal management from the beginning? If you are in a datacenter noise shouldn't be much of an issue. I personally would trade cooler operating temps and longer component life for some noise.

As the same with my home computer (my gaming one). I'd rather have my computer get noisy when I fire up games rather than have the fans sit at low speed and make my Graphics card and CPU overheat.

[Chriss Cohn]

Hi, good its up agian.... but following error:
When i will try to use the search then, "            Unable to access the search daemon" appears...

Regards, Christian

[Gary]

We know about that.

[dschwab9]

dschwab9 I hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of questions about the failure.

What was the motherboard brand / model that had the thermal management failure? If this was an Intel chip I thought they had built into the core throttle control to prevent overheating.

It's an Asus board with an Athlon 64 X2 processor

Was there a reason to use the fan speed thermal management from the beginning? If you are in a datacenter noise shouldn't be much of an issue. I personally would trade cooler operating temps and longer component life for some noise.

Apparently it was on by default.   it's now off on all the servers

[dschwab9]

Also, fyi, I'm making some progress on recovering recent attachments from the corrup hard drive

[Gary]

Awesome!

[dschwab9]

all attachments (or at least 99% of them) have been recovered and are being uploaded now.   Should all be there in an hour or two.

[dschwab9]

attachments and avatars have been restored

[4LP3RUZ1]

you rock!

asus mobo and x2 cpu... thats the same as my comp!

Q-fan was the problem?

[dschwab9]

you rock!

asus mobo and x2 cpu... thats the same as my comp!

Q-fan was the problem?

Whatever they call it.   That thing that adjusts the speed of the fan.   I suspect the temperature sensor is in such a place where the reading isn't accurate.   There was another box that was running really hot with low fan speed also.

[Aaron]

all attachments (or at least 99% of them) have been recovered and are being uploaded now.   Should all be there in an hour or two.

You're the man, Derek! Great work!

[Alan S]

I am not sure if this is related to the downtime but i have found a number of corrupt mod packages on the mod site , Message Preview On Hover and Sarcasmics Smiley sets to name a few , I tried to opern them in WinRar and i got a unexpected end of archive error.

[Peter De Decker]

glad to see the site back up!

[TheWrath!]

attachments and avatars have been restored

good job.

[rsw686]

It's an Asus board with an Athlon 64 X2 processor

Apparently it was on by default.   it's now off on all the servers

Whatever they call it.   That thing that adjusts the speed of the fan.   I suspect the temperature sensor is in such a place where the reading isn't accurate.   There was another box that was running really hot with low fan speed also.

First off don't take this the wrong way. I just want to point a few things out so this doesn't happen to others.

What a bad combination of a lot of things. Asus boards are horribly unreliable. I have 3 for 3 where something has failed. An AMD chip with no built in thermal protection. And user error of not checking all the bios settings and stress testing with CPU Burn In or the like.

Well on the bright side least you were able to recover most of the data. This is one of those experiences that you never want to have to do again.

Also if your not using ECC memory it would be wise to do so. Memory prices are soo cheap that you can pickup Kingston 2x2GB of DDR2 ECC memory for $110, same as the non EEC memory.

[Dannii]

Thanks for your dedication Derek.

Btw, now is the time to finally implement that AJAX CPU temperature feature into the admin CP yes?

[i2Paq]

all attachments (or at least 99% of them) have been recovered and are being uploaded now.   Should all be there in an hour or two.

I've downloaded a lot of Mods for the 1.1.4 smf release the last couple of day's, so if any of them is missing do let me know and I will put them up for dowload/upload.
I've also downloaded a few themes for 1.1.4, same case, let me know.

Great job anyway!

Regards, Norman.

[4LP3RUZ1]

@rsw686

Asus boards are good quality, I've had 2 and never had a problem with them. I use the Q-fan feature and find it to be a great addition to my quiet PC. I have no problems with thermal monitoring and find the Athlon X2 to be a cool and reliable CPU. The thermal diode is actually inside the CPU, so the CPU does its own monitoring, but again, its all setup from the BIOS.

[dschwab9]

What a bad combination of a lot of things. Asus boards are horribly unreliable. I have 3 for 3 where something has failed. An AMD chip with no built in thermal protection. And user error of not checking all the bios settings and stress testing with CPU Burn In or the like.

I could post a list of 20 motherboards here and I wouldn't get a response from someone about each and every one of them being horrible.   FYI:  not sure if it was mentioned in my original post, but the power supply fan had also failed, which has nothing to do with ASUS or the quality of their boards.   I will say I have been using their stuff for years and haven't never been a problem.

Also, about using AMD being a bad idea - I can't go for that.   AMD has some of the top performing CPU's out there and is probably in use in 50% of the web servers out there.

Also if your not using ECC memory it would be wise to do so. Memory prices are soo cheap that you can pickup Kingston 2x2GB of DDR2 ECC memory for $110, same as the non EEC memory.

You obviously don't know a whole lot about servers.   You can't just buy any stick of RAM and stick in any motherboard.  ECC RAM won't work in a board that doesn't support it.   Also, ECC RAM or not is totally unrelated to CPU temperature.

[dschwab9]

@rsw686

Asus boards are good quality, I've had 2 and never had a problem with them. I use the Q-fan feature and find it to be a great addition to my quiet PC. I have no problems with thermal monitoring and find the Athlon X2 to be a cool and reliable CPU. The thermal diode is actually inside the CPU, so the CPU does its own monitoring, but again, its all setup from the BIOS.

Isn't there another diode other then the CPU though?   The BIOS reports a CPU temp and a "System temp".   On this machine, the system temp was relatively low, so I suspect that diode was near the front of the case where the air intake it.