My host is upgrading to PHP/SQL5. Do I need to do anything/worry?

Started by weightman, February 13, 2008, 01:04:46 AM

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weightman

I got a notice from my host that they will be upgrading my server to PHP/SQL5 soon and that says,"This upgrade process is going to be as automated as possible, but we understand that some customers may wish to handle upgrades themselves.  All servers and accounts will be upgraded to PHP5 and MySQL 5, but if you wish to handle the upgrading of any incompatible scripts yourself, please visit...."

Do I need to do anything manually or can I relax and let them handle it? I am running SMF 1.14 with numerous mods and bridged with Mambo using Orstio's bridge.

Thanks very much

Fiery

Hey,

You should be fine.  Just make a backup first and let us and your host know of you run into any problems.

Kat9119

We must have the same host, lol. I just got the same email this morning and thought 'oh god'

The problem with doing backups, is they say they are doing these changes up until March 5th....so, who knows when our individual servers will be switched, and we could end up losing a lot of posts. While this might not be a problem for some users, I'm dealing with dial up (yeah yeah I know, it sucks, cannot afford anything more, I don't need the speach lol) so for me to do a backup on a daily basis really sucks.

Hope they fix it correctly for me and nothing goes wrong.

rsw686

You should be fine. My forum is running on PHP5 without any issue. PHP4 is discontinued anyway. You have to update at some point. PHP5 has been out for over 3 years and PHP 6 is on its way.
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weightman

Cool. Just out of curiosity, is there any advantage to us with the upgrade? Speed? Security?

One of my mods writes cron jobs and stuff for a living and made an automated backup system for our site. It does incremental backups twice a week and full backups twice a month I believe but is easy to change according to him. Does SMF have anything like that around, maybe in coding discussion? I thought I saw something a while back but didn't read the whole thread. The reason I ask is because maybe he would share the script. I would think he would though it would obviously have to be altered somewhat for each site.

Chriss Cohn

Im not sure, but i think i heard that for PHP5 you need to enable "register long arrays".
Also MySQL5 and PHP5 are both faster from what i'vr read in different forums and blogs some months ago...

Regards, Christian

青山 素子

Quote from: Chriss Cohn on February 13, 2008, 02:41:25 PM
Im not sure, but i think i heard that for PHP5 you need to enable "register long arrays".

No version of SMF that I'm aware of uses the old-style long arrays. Other software might, however.


Quote from: Chriss Cohn on February 13, 2008, 02:41:25 PM
Also MySQL5 and PHP5 are both faster from what i'vr read in different forums and blogs some months ago...

Based on my experience, they are both faster in some areas. Busy forums might notice the speed boost, but others probably will not.
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Fiery



Sarge

Let us know how it goes. :)

You can also ask your host to notify you a day or so before the upgrade, so that you know when to take a database backup. ;)

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weightman

Sure, I will post an update in this thread. It may be a while. I went on their forum and read a little more about their progress. They aren't starting until March 8 and they are starting with lower nameserver numbers- hostgator001 and moving up. Since I am in the 500's.....

Thanks

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Mouthrax

Hi,

My host just upgraded to PHP5 and I am getting all sorts of internal errors.

At first I was getting sporadic load issues, it would either load or throw up a 500 internal error message.

Today that seems fine but when I try and send out a news letter I still get an internal error?

I have contacted my server and they are looking into it, they have had some Linux issues so it may well be just that.

However so I have some ammo for when they mail back I just want to check that my SMF is all compatible with php5, I have done nothing to upgrade SMF so my question is, will it all be fine and dandy as it is? or do I need to change some things in the SMF files?

My server sent me this http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration5.php but I have no idea where to start or if it actually effects SMF

Sorry for long reply but I appreciate any help ;)

karlbenson

SMF works perfectly on PHP5. (probably better than php4)
I have been doing so for at least a year or more.

500 internal error message's shouldn't be thrown up by smf.
I'd probably say those are created by apache.
Are you using a .htaccess file?  or seo urls?  that could be the cause.

Mouthrax

Quote from: karlbenson on March 07, 2008, 08:46:09 AM
SMF works perfectly on PHP5. (probably better than php4)
I have been doing so for at least a year or more.

500 internal error message's shouldn't be thrown up by smf.
I'd probably say those are created by apache.
Are you using a .htaccess file?  or seo urls?  that could be the cause.

Am I using a what and a what???

hehehe sorry I am a bit of a nooob on the server side stuff but appreciate your help if you could explain?



青山 素子

An error in the 500s is an internal server error and the server logs should be consulted. These normally shouldn't occur.

SMF 1.1 and newer is compatible with PHP5 for sure, and the latest 1.0 releases should be as well. If you're running an old version of SMF, you should upgrade.
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Mouthrax

All current versions, so I am thinking it is to do with the server side upgrade.

My SMF now seems to be sound but I am still getting it when I try send a news mail, I have the mail handler set to PHP which is telling me there is still problems with it???

Gear-Monkey

you wouldn't happen to be with hostgator would you?  I upgraded my service to reseller and cant seem to get it to work on php5

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