If SMF wants to be successful

[Matthew Schenker]

...I believe we'll have a public Sphinx plugin for search when 2.0 is released as final.

Glad to hear it.  This is a much-needed improvement to SMF.  I've been playing with 2.0 beta in my test forum, and the search has not been changed.  I'm looking forward to seeing the improvement in the real 2.0 release!
Thanks,
Matt

[riker]

I think what makes SMF attractive is not its default skin.

But the skin is the first thing they see which is why some people may just walk right past it and that's not an opinion

[riker]

And only if Google has already crawled your pages, unfortunately.

Yes thats the probem but I'm hoping the html templates in beta 4 fix that problem for me

[Matthew Schenker]

Sounds like the biggest thing SMF can do to be successful is get 2.0 released as soon as possible!
Matt

[Dragooon]

SMF is ALREADY successful.......

[HecKel]

Sounds like the biggest thing SMF can do to be successful is get 2.0 released as soon as possible!
Matt

I am very very impatient as well, but remember that this is voluntary work, so..., or we help (if we can) or we wait. Everyone knows that SMF 2.0 is being done, so we only have to wait

And yes, the SMF 2.0 will HELPPP me a lot, most of the MODs that I have in my community will be features in SMF 2.0, so I really want this out..., but is better wait and got something very good than something that can damage one community just because members want this out.

[Gary]

If you're so eager to use 2.0, then use the beta.

[riker]

If you're so eager to use 2.0, then use the beta.

I was going to use it but didn't see the point until Beta 4 comes out because of the template change

[Col]

Will some please look at the default template using IE6. I've mentioned it before, as have others, and it seems to get worse, not better. The top-right hand corner in board view is totally messed up. It is also messed up (to a lesser degree) on the home page. Of course, when viewing a thread, the quote button is still cropped. It just looks unprofessional, especially after so much time has elapsed.

Thanks.

[Eliana Tamerin]

* Eliana Tamerin suggests Firefox instead.

It's a needed fix, though, I agree.

[Col]

* Eliana Tamerin suggests Firefox instead.

It's a needed fix, though, I agree.

Indeed, if we could somehow magic everyone to switch away from IE, this would be great. It will come one day, but not for a long time yet, I fear.

[Eliana Tamerin]

* Eliana Tamerin snaps her fingers.

That work? Please?

[SleePy]

Well for one, IE is a pain to get things to work right. I rather have our developers focusing on SMF than our site for these issues. They will most likely go away as updates and changes occur to the themes for better semantics

They are all logged, but you got to give them time, its hard to accomplish such tasks to make things look right in lots of browsers, without getting ugly with code.

[青山 素子]

Indeed, if we could somehow magic everyone to switch away from IE, this would be great. It will come one day, but not for a long time yet, I fear.

At the very least, if using IE, people should be using IE 7.

[Krysia]

In my opinion, if SMF wants to be successful and take place of PHPBB then it must have a more elegant and professional looking DEFAULT skin. People turn their face away from SMF by looking at the ugly [no hard feelings] default skin. What do you guys say?

I happen to like the default skin. I've never liked the default for phpBB or any of the other boards out there... which is why I've been an SMF-er for years.

I've easily customized 3 boards now, and it's super easy once you learn how to incorporate a "header.php" and "footer.php" into the template to blend the board into your site. Unknown (I believe) has a post about it somewhere in the customizing section.) It isn't even all that difficult to change the graphics either.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and this beholder prefers SMF.

[Col]

Indeed, if we could somehow magic everyone to switch away from IE, this would be great. It will come one day, but not for a long time yet, I fear.

At the very least, if using IE, people should be using IE 7.

Erm, since open source is often vaunted as a real alternative to commercial software (not least by SMF itself), do you think this attitude the most appropriate? Surely there is no 'should' about it, it is the 'reality' of the situation that should be addressed. I don't know the figures, but there must be a large percentage of people that still use IE6. Or is SMF now intended purely for hobbyists instead?

[青山 素子]

Surely there is no 'should' about it, it is the 'reality' of the situation that should be addressed. I don't know the figures, but there must be a large percentage of people that still use IE6. Or is SMF now intended purely for hobbyists instead?

That was my personal opinion. I believe that if you must use IE and have the option of IE7, you should use that.

As for a semi-official position, IE6 is still used by a decent percentage, so issues with it will be fixed eventually. Considering we are in the progress of working on new theme code, there will be breakage while it is in development.

[Krysia]

I didn't know there were IE issues. Fortunately for me, I've been using Safari or Firefox for several years. IE has always sucked out loud for Mac users, then it was decided not to even bother to make a Mac version of the browser. Pffft. Like Mac folks are crying over that... It took IE to get to 7 before it could handle a .png. Pathetic.

Unfortunately, many of the members of my board still use IE something-or-another, and the only problem some have run into (for those not using 7), is the inability to see the transparent-backed .png graphics on the page (they're white-boxed for them).

[Col]

For those that never use IE6, here's a screen capture of the top-right hand corner of the board view listing threads. The same problem exists on the home page, but is just 1px wide. It has been like this ever since this theme came into being - that must 18 months ago! This is why I find it frustrating - the sheer amount of time the theme has been so pig ugly in IE6.

[metallica48423]

i've reported it in our site stuff board, i'll stick it in the bug tracker if nobody looks at it.

Thanks