Release date?

[writeto]

If they are in the alpha phase still then it is possible that no one knows how much needs to be done. There are at least 3 developers that I have seen and no one knows how well they communicate. If they work like a normal developing team and distribute work (probaby based on time) then no one knows how far away they are. If they are actually in beta then all major functionality is done and they are simply testing. We won't know unless they fill us in.

[[Unknown]]

I'd prefer to call the current state "pre beta."  Not everything is done, no... and there's quite a lot to do.  I have a long todo list, which is posted here and there where the other developers can get to it.

Don't worry, it's getting closer day by day.  But I won't make any estimations, nor do I want to post a list so you guys can make estimations.  Because peopl have a nasty habit of doing just that, and then holding people to those estimations. (oh come on, you should be done with x by now!)

-[Unknown]

[Anguz]

I'd prefer to call the current state "pre beta."  Not everything is done, no... and there's quite a lot to do.  I have a long todo list, which is posted here and there where the other developers can get to it.

Don't worry, it's getting closer day by day.  But I won't make any estimations, nor do I want to post a list so you guys can make estimations.  Because peopl have a nasty habit of doing just that, and then holding people to those estimations. (oh come on, you should be done with x by now!)

-[Unknown]

agreed

it's such a pain in the backside to have ppl doing that 

[Fizzy]

I'd prefer to call the current state "pre beta."

Isn't that normally called "alpha" ? 

[Anguz]

I'd prefer to call the current state "pre beta."

Isn't that normally called "alpha" ? 

"post alpha" then?

[David]

I'd prefer to call the current state "pre beta."

Isn't that normally called "alpha" ? 

Ehh, its a little after alpha.   I refer to it as Beta but not yet a Release Canidate.

[Yeehaw]

I'd prefer to call the current state "pre beta."

Isn't that normally called "alpha" ? 

Ehh, its a little after alpha.   I refer to it as Beta but not yet a Release Canidate.

Uh..wait a minute...
Is that Beta in Opensourcespeak or is it a Microsoft Beta(1)?

(1)Microsoft software terms and Opensource Equivalents

Microsoft term------------Opensource term
Alpha-----------------------"Hey, what if we...?"
Beta------------------------Crashworthy
ReleaseCandiate-------------Alpha
Gold------------------------Beta
SP1-------------------------ReleaseCandidate
SP2-------------------------Gold

I'm an win2k/2k3 IT Admin (some enterprise-level *nix, to defend myself), so you can understand my confusion...

[David]

Then by Microsoft Terms, Gold.

[Fizzy]

We'll call that a "Belpha" then ? ?