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What's new in SMF 2.0 Beta 4?

Started by karlbenson, September 07, 2008, 07:07:36 PM

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Enc0der

Quote from: Oldiesmann on October 19, 2008, 06:14:40 PM
1. Yes, it will definitely reach RC status by the end of the year, and we are hoping to even have the final version out by then.
These are great news!
Please make sure to have a working RTL support on the default theme as the current one in beta 4 is totally broken...

Eleglin

There are a lot of variations between the theme for SMF 1.1 and 2.0...
I hope that a guide will be done for helping people who have customized their themes in the previous version. It would be great.. :s
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AlenNS

Why there is no link tree on the bottom of the page?
Can this be added?

I would like to add it to be like this?

Thanks in advance! :)


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AlenNS



Antechinus

Quote from: Eleglin on October 20, 2008, 08:14:45 AM
There are a lot of variations between the theme for SMF 1.1 and 2.0...
I hope that a guide will be done for helping people who have customized their themes in the previous version. It would be great.. :s
Well as a beginner theme butcher I'm finding the upgrade process not too bad. The primary change from the point of view of normal themes is the increased use of css files, which has its advantages. Bit of a pain to get your head around all the new classes but I can see why the new method is preferred. It will add a lot more flexibility to the design process without requiring a multitude of templates to be edited. This has to be good for everyone as the appearance can be customised to a greater extent without complicating the installation of mods.

I like it.  ;)

ETA: Having said that some rewoking of templates may still be necessary, depending on what effects the theme's author wants to achieve.

Fustrate

Ya, I'm waiting until RC1 comes out to fool around with themes... just doesn't seem worth the effort right now.
Steven Hoffman
Former Team Member, 2009-2012

Antechinus

I'm not too worried about it. For the templates that mainly interest me I don't think there will be too many changes, and any changes that occur should be fairly easy to integrate. I'm redefining heaps of things anyway so really what the default theme says aint gonna bother me that much.

rommul

Quote from: Oldiesmann on October 19, 2008, 06:14:40 PM
1. Yes, it will definitely reach RC status by the end of the year, and we are hoping to even have the final version out by then.


I wouldn't put my money on that.

babjusi

Quote from: rommul on October 28, 2008, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: Oldiesmann on October 19, 2008, 06:14:40 PM
1. Yes, it will definitely reach RC status by the end of the year, and we are hoping to even have the final version out by then.


I wouldn't put my money on that.

If Oldiesmann said that, then that is what''s gonna happen. You can bet on it :)

Nao 尚

Quote from: babjusi on October 28, 2008, 04:24:24 PM
If Oldiesmann said that, then that is what''s gonna happen. You can bet on it :)
Hmm, that would be in less than 2 months...
Grudge and Aaron currently do 90% of the bug fixes. But they do seem to have been particularily busy these last few weeks... Work has been very slow. I have over a dozen bug reports that I consider important and have barely been commented. IMHO, SMF2 will not be final until early-mid 2009...
At this point it would be nice to advance to a final release, in spite of the number of bugs remaining, and do the rest of the bug fixes in smaller increment updates, I guess.
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HecKel

Now I am confused, you just said that you have important bug reports that hadn't been commented and you recommend to advance to a final release? I just don't get it...

I really want SMF 2.0 out, but why a final that isn't really a final? Just to say that we have something? I totally disagree, the Devs have their own life and I already said some times that I think the Dev Team is too small for the work that they're doing, volunteer work has this kind of problems and we can't complain about that at all. It's just not fair!
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Nao 尚

Quote from: HecKel on October 28, 2008, 09:35:05 PM
Now I am confused, you just said that you have important bug reports that hadn't been commented and you recommend to advance to a final release? I just don't get it...
Well, my desire to see SMF 2.0 become the de facto version used by most people, is stronger than my desire to see a perfect SMF 2.0... I'd rather have a perfect SMF 2.0.x that will be quickly adopted by everyone simply by applying a (large) patch...

QuoteI really want SMF 2.0 out, but why a final that isn't really a final? Just to say that we have something? I totally disagree, the Devs have their own life and I already said some times that I think the Dev Team is too small for the work that they're doing, volunteer work has this kind of problems and we can't complain about that at all. It's just not fair!
I know the dev team is too small... I prefer being a good beta tester than a mediocre dev, but I still offered my help, because I know there are periods during SMF development where nobody has time to spare for SMF...

Anyway--don't take what I said the wrong way. SMF 2 is already fantastic "as is", and is certainly *less* buggy than SMF 1 in the current situation. (Sometimes, bugs found for SMF2 are also valid for SMF1, but they're only fixed for SMF2 because it's always a hassle to provide fixes on both tags.)
I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Aeva Media rocks your life.

Antechinus

Ok, in light of that my 2c would be to not worry about which version you call final and when it comes out.
1.1.x is now up to 1.1.6 but presumably (I wasn't around then) there was a 1.1.1 "final". ;D
So how "final" is "final" anyway? I mean it's only ever going to be sorta final for the time being, isn't it?

As in "final but not really but it will be until we find something else to fix which hopefully wont be this week because we're all sick to the back teeth of dev work and heartily long for a nice holiday in Barbados".

So yeah, call it RC1. Call it "good enough for now so $%#king well just use it and shut up" 1. Call it whatever you like. Doesn't matter. We know it's good as Beta 4. Whatever gets released next will be better, and as soon as it is released I'm converting to SMF 2. Very quickly. 

Crafty Thingz

Hello,

I have a stupid question.  I run  1.1.6 

What is the difference between 1.1.6 and the Beta thingie

Which one should we be using.

Which one is easier to operate from admin point of view and forum member point of view.

I do apologize if I have posted in the wrong forum subject.

cheers from the Kiwi

Antechinus


Crafty Thingz

thank you

I will take that on board.

Antechinus

Please just post in normal text. The bold font with double spacing comes across as shouting.

Crafty Thingz

Oh so sorry about bold text. I didn't realized it would taken like that. I really a quiet person who is hardly seen or heard.  ;D

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