Why the dissatisfaction?

[[Unknown]]

That Napster guy, I think?  Something like that...

-[Unknown]

[ryanbsoftware]

well if they gripe about it then their loss, SMF is great and will, hopefully, only get beter with time.  I came for vbulletin, if I had the choice i would have stayed but it wasn't my license, it was a loadned license that was taken away so the owner could exchange it for hosting...jerk...so after trying many BBS someone told me about SMF and i saw the site, it looked basic but I know looks can be decieving but then they told me it was based off of yabbse, which i have used and i almost just moved along but they convinced me its beter than yabbse and i tried it and i would have to say, it is beter than vb cause its free and still has all the main features and more with tons of mods.

[rider]

All I can say is ,this is the best support forum I've ever seen with so many options and so much support from this site.Bloc's and the arcade.I'm new to this and I've learned alot in a month.So if people want to gripe ,they can take a hike.People just have to learn to be patience and realize there's not much better out there then SMF. .Thanks for the help cause without you my site would say page cannot be displayed lol.rider

[Kretz]

One thing I cant understand is why people expect more from free software then from paid software... shouldnt it be the opposite? The makers of paid software have more money to spend on development, the makers of free software often do everything on their spare time, wich mean they have less time and less money. To see that SMF is as good as IPB surprised me alot, since its free. I thought this would be more like phpBB. I cant compare it to vBulletin though 'couse Ive never realy used it... Im a member of one but not admin... so I cant judge it fully so I wont judge it at all...

I realy think I'll stay on this forum as a very active member for a long time... so... I'll see you all later, not I have to go kill some humans in Natural Selection (this game owns!).

Oh, btw if you want to know, so you will understand me better... I'm 16

~Kretz, Professional Forum Manager
Founder of these networks:
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and many more...

BTW. Check out hxxp:forums.killagraphix.com [nonactive] it's a great forum, they make the best graphics out there (thats my opinion).

[Trekkie101]

Link seems dead   

[Kretz]

They've had some server problems these last few days, but they will be up and running soon again...

[[Unknown]]

[Unknown] is 19? No way! He's going to be the Shawn Fanning of Message Boards.
SMF is one hell of a project to have on your resume at such a young age.

Sigh... I just got a pm from someone who was previously interested in SMF, its development, and the promotion thereof.  This person basically said that he hadn't realized I was 19 before, and now that he knew that the lead developer was 19, he was saying "goodbye" and wouldn't be interested in SMF a second longer.

Forgive me, but I can't see any way that's anything but pathetic.  I know that's a bit harsh to say, but I've never met a great man (meaning, one who has done only good works and has never/rarely dissapointed me, and believe me I've met quite a few such) who cared one bit about my age.

To hear someone say such things to me because I am younger than them, well... I hope they learn otherwise shortly.  I can only guess this person must not have ever had children, because while I haven't... my younger brother, who is ten years younger than me, proves to me that children can do great things and know much more, in cases, than adults.

After all, this little brother of mine has been able to use a computer and play games on it himself, ever since he was like four or five.  I know adults who can't do that much with computers, and I'm not kidding.

Whatever... things like this just darken my outlook on the overall greatness of mankind a bit.  Sorry for the rant.

-[Unknown]

[Grudge]

Well, I'm 22 which makes me a whole three years older than [Unknown], but not a day here goes by when I don't learn something from him - just because I'm older doesn't make me better

Ageism is unfortunatly something we all have to suffer. Professionally (i.e as my real job), I work as a project manager, and it can be very difficult to try and get people to take you seriously when you're telling them what you want from them, and they are twice your age. To most you prove your worth through your actions - but to some they will never accept that someone so young (or old) can be in a position of responsiblity *sigh*

[Kindred]

Sheesh... I didn't know all the bigwigs at SMF were babies... agewise...

just kidding guys. You're right, age has nothing at all to do with talent or skill...   and I honestly don't see why it would matter what age you are. Of course, as Grudge points out, ageism exists.... in both respects. People on one of the other message boards I frequent got really upset whe they found out I wa sin my 30s and not a teenager like them.

[Amacythe]

Sigh... I just got a pm from someone who was previously interested in SMF, its development, and the promotion thereof.  This person basically said that he hadn't realized I was 19 before, and now that he knew that the lead developer was 19, he was saying "goodbye" and wouldn't be interested in SMF a second longer.

If this person has decided he's too old to learn, then he IS too old.  If he's saying it because he doubts your dedication, he needs to take a look around.  If he said it just because he has no faith in youth, he has a LOT to learn about the people here.

I have learned so much from [Unknown] and people that are even younger than he is.

[David]

Eh, adults these days.

[Elijah Bliss]

[Unknown] is 19? No way! He's going to be the Shawn Fanning of Message Boards.
SMF is one hell of a project to have on your resume at such a young age.

Sigh... I just got a pm from someone who was previously interested in SMF, its development, and the promotion thereof.  This person basically said that he hadn't realized I was 19 before, and now that he knew that the lead developer was 19, he was saying "goodbye" and wouldn't be interested in SMF a second longer.

Forgive me, but I can't see any way that's anything but pathetic.  I know that's a bit harsh to say, but I've never met a great man (meaning, one who has done only good works and has never/rarely dissapointed me, and believe me I've met quite a few such) who cared one bit about my age.

To hear someone say such things to me because I am younger than them, well... I hope they learn otherwise shortly.  I can only guess this person must not have ever had children, because while I haven't... my younger brother, who is ten years younger than me, proves to me that children can do great things and know much more, in cases, than adults.

After all, this little brother of mine has been able to use a computer and play games on it himself, ever since he was like four or five.  I know adults who can't do that much with computers, and I'm not kidding.

Whatever... things like this just darken my outlook on the overall greatness of mankind a bit.  Sorry for the rant.

-[Unknown]

Man, forget about the PM.
His major loss.

SMF is almost if not already at the top of the heap.
One of the main creators, 19.

Do you know what 99% of 19 year olds are doing?
Absolutely nothing!

I was no slouch at 19, but this is extremely impressive, maybe I'm making to big a deal of it, but most 19 year olds I know aren't doing jack squat but getting drunk and being placed on academic probation.

[Kretz]

Well, I do understand why he left, but I dont support it... he just dont know what youths can do. Just need to look around a little and he'd know what I'm talking about...

So, let us show everyone how great we are

[ElLizzardo]

Throwing in my 2 cents, here.
I've been a YaBB user for eons, then upgraded to YaBBSE, which I used fruitfully for several years.
When SMF first came out I gave it a shot (since there'd be no more YaBBSE support anymore).
SMF was so chock-full-o-bugs I was driving Unknown and Grudge nuts. Even simple stuff like logging in became a chore. Bottom line is, these guys were courteous and did everything they could to make MY "One of thousands" board work.
I gave up the ghost, went to phpBB (which seems to be the BB most celebrities use) but found that every thing YaBBSE/SMF had as standard was a hand-edited mod (e.g., a calendar board). Add a few mods and your board crashes and you have to start from scratch.
So I gave SMF another shot and have been extremely impressed with the progress made and think that the board, and the service given by its unpaid staff is top quality.

Most free software support teams are very antagonistic to people seeking help.
SMF, like its predecessors YaBB and YaBBSE, are great. The mods and updates are easy and the functionality is better than any other board, paid or not. Granted phpBB has more themes available, but some of the stuff coming out recently is beating phpBB themes.

This is coming from a 50-year-old old timer who does computers for the USAF and wishes he had the knowledge and capability at 19 that you guys have.

[bloc]

I can only agreed here...if you can't accept that young people know a lot more than you do , then its just pathetic and probably have some other issues than purely age.

Same thing in real life. People who don't know what they're doing , but give the impression they do, is the ones that gets to me - and they can be 15 or 50 years old, it really doesn't matter.

[[Unknown]]

SMF was so chock-full-o-bugs I was driving Unknown and Grudge nuts. Even simple stuff like logging in became a chore.

I don't remember it being *that* buggy... I mean you could always log in!

Though, Beta 1 was pretty sketchy.  It got stable-ish around Beta -3.1415, but it still wasn't meant for production until RC1....

-[Unknown]

[Trekkie101]

Beta 5 was when I joined the  party, it was kicking cool and not buggy from what I saw.

[ryanbsoftware]

RC2 was out when i joined.

[ElLizzardo]

It was when YaBBSE closed down and SMF was first made available for non-charter members...so about a year ago...don't know what version...
I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing [Unknown] or SMF, but I did have problems with that release...including "member does not exist," or something to that effect, when I tried to login as admin (I think it was a cookie problem...).
Again, the team has done, and keeps doing, an incredible job.

[_complex]

RC2 was out when i joined.

RC2 was when i came into play also