Yahoo indexing issues since RC ?

riker · March 03, 2009, 12:55:08 PM

Noticed a problem with yahoo indexing my site and wondered if anyone else had issues since RC ?

karlbenson · March 03, 2009, 01:07:00 PM

What sort of a problem?
Not spidering? Spidering too much?

There is a known bug with Yahoo spiders all getting misdetected as Yahoo (Publisher) spider.
But that shouldn't impact yahoo from spidering, only a stats issue.

riker · March 03, 2009, 01:19:53 PM

Quote from: regularexpression on March 03, 2009, 01:07:00 PM
What sort of a problem?
Not spidering? Spidering too much?

There is a known bug with Yahoo spiders all getting misdetected as Yahoo (Publisher) spider.
But that shouldn't impact yahoo from spidering, only a stats issue.

Either blank yahoo cache pages or post but no post text

karlbenson · March 03, 2009, 01:23:58 PM

Can you link me to the forum/page its happening on your forum
(not the yahoo cached page).

I'll check with my useragent switcher what yahoo sees

riker · March 03, 2009, 01:46:07 PM

Quote from: regularexpression on March 03, 2009, 01:23:58 PM
Can you link me to the forum/page its happening on your forum
(not the yahoo cached page).

I'll check with my useragent switcher what yahoo sees

Could yes but it looks like it's any RC site using the default theme (maybe others too ?)

Here's one I just checked on yahoo (cache)

http://72.30.186.56/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=egadforums.net&rd=r1&fr=yfp-t-501&u=egadforums.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D44.0&d=V5LonZ2uSYyq&icp=1&.intl=uk

http://72.30.186.56/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=egadforums.net&rd=r1&fr=yfp-t-501&u=egadforums.com/index.php%3Fboard%3D24.0&d=dJ0KU52uSRbu&icp=1&.intl=uk

http://72.30.186.56/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=egadforums.net&rd=r1&fr=yfp-t-501&u=egadforums.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D19.0&d=F6YrAZ2uSUZV&icp=1&.intl=uk

http://72.30.186.56/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=egadforums.net&rd=r1&fr=yfp-t-501&u=egadforums.com/index.php%3Ftopic%3D53.0&d=AzZy6Z2uSYmS&icp=1&.intl=uk

I wondered why my visitors from yahoo had gone down

karlbenson · March 03, 2009, 02:13:52 PM

semantic html/css
+
search engine adding code in an xhtml invalid place (before the <html> tag)
+
IE (it looks ok in chrome, opera, firefox)

(Note it affects Google Cache in the same way).
It won't affect your search engine/ranking, only how ie mis-renders it.

I think it might be possible to fix it, since it doesn't affect Beta 4.
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:k5zeyPdppcQJ:galleryproject.oldiesmann.us/index.php%3Ftopic%3D632.0+Powered+by+SMF+2.0+Beta+4&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk

karlbenson · March 03, 2009, 02:23:45 PM

I've added this to our tracker
http://dev.simplemachines.org/mantis/view.php?id=3298

riker · March 03, 2009, 03:30:53 PM

Quote from: regularexpression on March 03, 2009, 02:13:52 PM
semantic html/css
+
search engine adding code in an xhtml invalid place (before the <html> tag)
+
IE (it looks ok in chrome, opera, firefox)

(Note it affects Google Cache in the same way).
It won't affect your search engine/ranking, only how ie mis-renders it.

I think it might be possible to fix it, since it doesn't affect Beta 4.
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:k5zeyPdppcQJ:galleryproject.oldiesmann.us/index.php%3Ftopic%3D632.0+Powered+by+SMF+2.0+Beta+4&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk

What with the PM's, Membergroups and now this their does seem to be a lot of problems to fix in this RC

riker · March 04, 2009, 03:19:32 AM

Quote from: AäronThat's because Google caches only the page, not the CSS. Since the CSS in RC1 differs from the CSS in beta 4, we simply cannot 'fix' this.

omg, can someone please come up with a way of downgrading to smf1.1.x because 2.0 is going backward not forward.

Ps I'm very hesitant in calling it a downgrade

greyknight17 · March 16, 2009, 07:57:34 PM

There is no simple way to downgrade which is why we ask all users to make a complete backup of their forum before proceeding with any major upgrade.

H · March 17, 2009, 04:18:06 PM

Quote from: riker on March 04, 2009, 03:19:32 AM
Quote from: AäronThat's because Google caches only the page, not the CSS. Since the CSS in RC1 differs from the CSS in beta 4, we simply cannot 'fix' this.

omg, can someone please come up with a way of downgrading to smf1.1.x because 2.0 is going backward not forward.

Ps I'm very hesitant in calling it a downgrade

There is a reason 2.0 is still in testing. If you choose to upgrade before we deem it stable, you'll have to live with the consequences

riker · March 20, 2009, 08:24:43 AM

Quote from: H on March 17, 2009, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: riker on March 04, 2009, 03:19:32 AM
Quote from: AäronThat's because Google caches only the page, not the CSS. Since the CSS in RC1 differs from the CSS in beta 4, we simply cannot 'fix' this.

omg, can someone please come up with a way of downgrading to smf1.1.x because 2.0 is going backward not forward.

Ps I'm very hesitant in calling it a downgrade

There is a reason 2.0 is still in testing. If you choose to upgrade before we deem it stable, you'll have to live with the consequences

Thanks H but it's no longer a beta it's RC

H · March 20, 2009, 02:56:23 PM

RC is still part of the testing stage

karlbenson · March 26, 2009, 03:39:59 PM

I think I've fixed it in the SVN.
A single line was responsible. However in changing that line, it caused half a dozen issues in other browsers.

So fingers crossed that once our beta testers test it, we don't discover I broke any other browsers.

So should be in RC2 (whenever that is released)

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