Re: PornHub BBCode

[K3TK3TK3T]

Apples and oranges.

Violation of privacy is a problem for others; you're harming others.
Voluntary viewing of pornography is not harming anyone.

You bring up the age/legal issue, you must be 18 (or 21) to view porn. So what? That's the responsibility of the site owner and/or viewers, not SMF. Last I checked, you also had to be 13 to join a forum (though I may be incorrect on this) so why don't we just stop offering a forum package? The answer is, because we are not responsible for underage users using SMF.

Still not seeing any reasons for disallowing this other than the "I don't like porn" or "it makes us look bad" - I say, picking and choosing which mods we deem "acceptable" based on irrelevant "values" makes us look bad. Though I do agree that text links to "PornHub" are completely out of the question on the Simple Machines website. What other people do with the software is absolutely none of your business, however.

voluntary viewing of pornography is not harming anyone?  then why is it illegal for people under 18 to do that?  would you say the same thing about smoking?

whoever approved the mod was not thinking right anyway, because they allowed that link.  the age/legal issue is something that no one should be saying "it isn't my responsibility" or "it isn't SMF's responsibility," because that is obvious, it is the viewer's responsibility to obey the law.  however, i'm pretty sure that the porn places/sites have to, by law, require that the user say that they are 18 years+ when going onto the site/whatever.  but when the mod was approved, SMF provided an easy link to a porn site, no mention of 18+.  SMF is not responsible for underage users, no of course not, and neither are porn sites - the user is responsible.  however, if SMF, like a porn site, has adult material/links to adult material/THIS PACKAGE on it, then it had better require some sort of "I am 18+" button.  otherwise, they are being irresponsible(which is what i'd call SMF right now, and i'm a charter member - shouldn't you care SMF?).

IE can be used to do a lot of things, and no where does it tell you that it is for viewing/accessing/downloading adult material.  however, this package has one purpose, and one function.  get rid of it because it was created for using adult material.  aeva can do adult material, but it isn't for that.  aeva's function to do adult material should be removed though, because it's basically basically this package within aeva.

a lot of people will fight without logic for porn, possibly because the truth may be that they are just trying to defend their own lifestyles.  one time i heard someone(not on this site) had said that porn was perfectly ok because in the bible(yes i said the bible, now flare up on me or be respectable, your choice), adam and eve were naked.  that's strikingly similar to the remark about IE.  bringing up stupid arguments like aeva's ability to show adult material making THIS mod ok, and the whole IE thing is something thought up for quick defense.  no one who has thought up these things has thought them through, because they are not after what is right.

We should also ban any tool that can execute SQL statements, after all, any admin also has access to the database where user PMs are stored, and thus has access to the PMs.

no, but it should be in the user agreement that their PM's are in fact not private, like that.

All sarcasm aside, I don't think any community driven project can force the morals of the few onto its community without losing the respect of said community.

force morals?  you act like that's a bad thing.  what about rules?  is it ok to enforce rules?  most rules exist are based off of the rule-makers morals, you know.  this site has rules, i think, actually not too sure because of this stuff, and i don't see a rules button anywhere, or any sort of rule reminder.  and by the way, i've lost some respect for SMF because of this mod, i regret paying to be a charter member.

My forums are 18+ and as such users are allowed to post adult content, I will fight tooth and nail to ensure my users are not only allowed, but enabled to express themselves however they see fit, within the limits of the law.

i hope you're requiring that they say they are 18+, otherwise you yourself are not within the limits of the law.

the most i have to offer to SMF - my attention - i am willing to take away if this mod and the other one which i am about to link to are not removed, because if SMF doesn't think respecting me - which it has failed to do by allowing this package, the links, and more links(in the package link below) - is important, then i'm out of here.

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=327661.0

there are 3(maybe 4 if the first one is porn, i don't know and i don't want to find out) porn links RIGHT THERE, and i don't think SMF cares.  maybe i should have left by now!

whoever is approving these mods probably should not be in the position to do that.

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

I say it again - In my opinion, the mods are at the most a little questionable, but nothing bad or unsuitable to be hosted and distributed, since the mod in itself does not offer, or help you to get the adult material in any way. You still need to go the site in question, to get the links needed.
And that is the step where the site in question is responsible for making sure the users are of age.
The mod in itself is perfectly legal for anyone to have and install, and holds no adult material.

The links in the mod description should be removed though, even if they are not live links.

[JBlaze]

Enough is enough. This topic has gotten heated enough already.

We have made a decision about approving this mod and we are sticking to it.

If you have a complaint, please send an email to [email protected]

Thank you.

Topic locked.