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SMF 2.0 Release Candidate 2 is out for Charter Members!

Started by Aaron, October 03, 2009, 05:39:28 PM

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Yigal

:P . Obviously.
Anywho, Curve looks nice.  Once I get it, I might edit some colors I like into my forum.
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poolhall

Yeah, it's not a complaint but rather pointing out that a product aiming to international market would not sport something like the hammer and sickle because it may not be a good marketing move. Same here, when I logged in on the forum where I am a member with Curve theme installed, the first thing I noticed on the forum index was a long column of those "sabbatical" icons, LOL. And I thought, the forum has really been converted.  ;D

Antechinus

Quote from: Kenny01 on October 06, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
Hey guys, i just discover that the new SMF have 63 tables while 1.1.10 have 51 that's 12 tables more...

I was thinking that the new release will have less tables.

:D Kenny, you are confusing html tables with database tables. 2.0 has less of the former and more of the latter compared to 1.1.x.

Quote from: poolhall on October 06, 2009, 04:41:30 PM
Yeah, it's not a complaint but rather pointing out that a product aiming to international market would not sport something like the hammer and sickle because it may not be a good marketing move. Same here, when I logged in on the forum where I am a member with Curve theme installed, the first thing I noticed on the forum index was a long column of those "sabbatical" icons, LOL. And I thought, the forum has really been converted.  ;D

That's because the world is controlled by the Elders of Zion and we at SMF are their devoted minions. :P

Take it away, conspiracy theorists.

poolhall

Quote from: Antechinus on October 06, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
conspiracy theorists.

I am absolutely sure it was NOT a desirable effect, so please knock this ... off.

Norv

Quote from: lorenzone92 on October 06, 2009, 03:27:24 PM
And how about adding a built-in enable/disable system for mods? This will help also when getting errors that cause serious problems to the forum; if SMF notices that something doens't work properly, automatically (or prompting an advice that invites to) disables that mod (like wordpress, that imho has one of the best plugins system)! :D

Don't know if it would be too difficult to add, maybe for the next major release... :P

The mod system is not the same with a plugin system. They both serve the same purpose: extending the functionality of a base software, but do it differently.
As said above, you can't really disable mods (unless the mod itself is written to provide some way, but then it's nonstandard anyway), as long as they are exactly that: mods, that is direct modifications of code. If they were separate components as far as implementation is concerned, that would be possible.
However, switching SMF to a modular design at that scale (and switching mods to a  different kind of extensions) is unlikely to happen any time soon (meaning years, if ever). In a sense, as explained by Nao, it's a different way of writing the software to be extensible. One way consists in allowing direct modifications of the code itself (mods), and being optimized for it, while the other consists in plugging in various external extensions. (plugins, or whatnot)
SMF is, and for all I can tell, will most likely continue to be, a medium sized piece of software which can be extended by modifications to get the wanted result with minimum hassles. It has a certain degree of modularity (by its template subsystem and a few others) and it is still small enough for a fair part of it to be fully understood, thus allowing easy modification.

We might see higher degrees of modularity of SMF in the future indeed, as the software grows, but personally, I highly doubt they will consist in implementing a totally different concept of its packages system. (rather, it's continually being improved and will most likely continue to be).
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Horme Gaming

Quote from: sremick on October 05, 2009, 01:16:00 PM
You know what would be amazingly useful? If someone who is running SMF2 could start maintaining an ongoing list of mods for SMF1 that are no longer necessary due to new built-in functionality of SMF2. Would greatly reduce the amount of research those of us with lots of mods need to do as we prepare for an SMF1 -> SMF2 upgrade.

Thanks in advance. ;)

Also my Slogan mod  however version 4 of the mod will be out for RC2

Antechinus

Quote from: poolhall on October 06, 2009, 05:03:35 PM
Quote from: Antechinus on October 06, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
conspiracy theorists.

I am absolutely sure it was NOT a desirable effect, so please knock this ... off.
It was a joke. Seriously though I know what conspiracy theorists are like. They only have to spot one stray comment online and they'll be off and running. I would not be at all surprised if the rumour about SMF being controlled by shady Jewish organisations was doing the rounds in under a week once somebody read your post about the icons looking like they had Hebrew text on them.

The simple truth of the matter is that the font used for the text becomes unclear at that scale, as is common with most fonts. This means it does not look quite how you might expect it to look. Also bear in mind that Bloc is not English and may well have not originally written the icon text in English. It doesn't matter as it is purely representational in this context.

king kratos

Quote from: Antechinus on October 06, 2009, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: poolhall on October 06, 2009, 05:03:35 PM
Quote from: Antechinus on October 06, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
conspiracy theorists.

I am absolutely sure it was NOT a desirable effect, so please knock this ... off.
It was a joke. Seriously though I know what conspiracy theorists are like. They only have to spot one stray comment online and they'll be off and running. I would not be at all surprised if the rumour about SMF being controlled by shady Jewish organisations was doing the rounds in under a week once somebody read your post about the icons looking like they had Hebrew text on them.

Check the 5 o'clock news tonight! I just sent both of these comments to every news agency in the world! LOL (JK, if you hadn't figured that out yet)

No but really, when I looked at the icon, all I saw was a bunch of squiggly lines that could represent writing.

Kratos

poolhall

Quote from: Antechinus on October 06, 2009, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: poolhall on October 06, 2009, 05:03:35 PM
Quote from: Antechinus on October 06, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
conspiracy theorists.

I am absolutely sure it was NOT a desirable effect, so please knock this ... off.
It was a joke. Seriously though I know what conspiracy theorists are like. They only have to spot one stray comment online and they'll be off and running. I would not be at all surprised if the rumour about SMF being controlled by shady Jewish organisations was doing the rounds in under a week once somebody read your post about the icons looking like they had Hebrew text on them.

The simple truth of the matter is that the font used for the text becomes unclear at that scale, as is common with most fonts. This means it does not look quite how you might expect it to look. Also bear in mind that Bloc is not English and may well have not originally written the icon text in English. It doesn't matter as it is purely representational in this context.
I fail to see why you're writing this to me. I didn't say I don't understand why it could happen, I was merely sharing my impression on the result. I was not implying anything, and there was no need to label me, especially without knowing me. I am in fact don't know a single conspiracy theory that I like, and, moreover, I am Jewish.

Antechinus

I didn't label you. I was taking the mick out of conspiracy theorists. :)

poolhall

Quote from: Antechinus on October 06, 2009, 05:40:12 PM
I was taking the mick out of conspiracy theorists. :)
Yes, I hate them too  ;) If you see them here, let me know.

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Oldiesmann

Quote from: Kenny01 on October 06, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
Hey guys, i just discover that the new SMF have 63 tables while 1.1.10 have 51 that's 12 tables more...

I was thinking that the new release will have less tables.

Not when you have lots of big new features like the warning system, custom profile fields, etc. The devs have done a good job of optimizing things and new tables/columns are only added when necessary.
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simmaster

Quote from: Nas on October 03, 2009, 06:03:52 PM
It IS out, Arantor! :D
With that said:
* simmaster07 throws Arantor at Arantor... oh wait...  :'(

But at least RC2 is finally out! Now I can stop staring at the bugtracker screen to find hints of an upcoming release :P
EDIT: I find it disturbing you hath not yet upgraded your own main forum :P

Arantor

Because our own main forum uses its own theme, which - like all other themes - needs revisiting for Curve compliance.
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bullbreedluverz

Quote from: prettylolita on October 06, 2009, 10:07:28 PM
I want! how can we get???????????????

Dodgy Dave is selling blackmarket copies in the third cubical of the SMF mens toilet, knock 4 times on the door and he will know you want business.......... but shush keep it a secret

prettylolita

Quote from: stikkki on October 06, 2009, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: prettylolita on October 06, 2009, 10:07:28 PM
I want! how can we get???????????????

Dodgy Dave is selling blackmarket copies in the third cubical of the SMF mens toilet, knock 4 times on the door and he will know you want business.......... but shush keep it a secret

cool I"ll be sure to pick up a copy.
But really I think I've become obsessed with SMF latly because I work with alot of forum owners and most of them love phpbb and I hate installing mods on it. T_T It makes me cry...
... so painful and their auto installer is like beta and more crying.
I love you SMF for making it so much easier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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For those commenting on the icon's wording..

If you zoom in on it, though pixelated, it says

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