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Converting to SMF RC 4, installing from scratch... Import old posts and users?

Aloittaja frozenas, marraskuu 28, 2010, 05:41:18 AP

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frozenas

marraskuu 28, 2010, 05:41:18 AP
Hi everyone. I'd like to ask, if it's possible, to export users, posts, threads, everything from an RC 3 installation, then install SMF RC 4 on a new host, new database, etc, and import that everything? If not, can you give me some suggestions, what can I do, to do this?

Thanks.

Norv

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marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:20:37 AP
Backup and move your current RC3 database, download a RC4 upgrade package, de-archive and upload all the files in it on your new host:
How do I move my SMF forum to a different host?
How do I backup my database?
How do I restore a database backup?
What is repair_settings.php?
Upgrading SMF

Note: Most important, run repair_settings.php and change paths and everything, to suit your new host paths, and only after it, run the upgrade script to upgrade your RC3 database to RC4.
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:27:49 AP
You firstly need to install a fresh 2.0 RC3 installation and import the database in there (since you were running RC3 before) and then do a upgrade to Rc4 :)

Just adding as a warning.
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:30:08 AP
Yoshi, you do not need to install RC3.
repair_settings.php will run absolutely the same with the RC4 files directly.
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:31:05 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:30:08 AP
Yoshi, you do not need to install RC3.
repair_settings.php will run absolutely the same with the RC4 files directly.
No for the database import I advise you to install RC3 if you got your DB backup from that version, then upgrade.
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:32:51 AP
You don't need to install RC3. Why would you? You won't use it (you don't import the database using RC3, do you?), just run repair_settings.php on RC4 and upgrade to RC4. You may need only Settings.php and Settings_bak.php files, though, that's true, if that's what you're thinking of. No matter with what settings.

You can if you want, install RC3, but then you got yourself an extra database. As anyone wants, but it may be a useless burden.
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:36:04 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:32:51 AP
You don't need to install RC3. Why would you? You won't use it (you don't import the database using RC3, do you?), just run repair_settings.php on RC4 and upgrade to RC4. You may need only Settings.php and Settings_bak.php files, though, that's true. No matter with what settings.
I don't think you get what I mean :)

I mean, the database backup is created with RC3, and the database could be changed in RC4.
So if it indeed has changed, and you import the database, it would cause issues.

Get what I mean?
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:40:21 AP Viimeisin muokkaus: marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:45:32 AP käyttäjältä Norv
No, I don't. If you don't USE the forum, until you upgrade it, then you don't NEED any RC3 on that machine. :)
You import the database, adjust the settings, and you're good to go for upgrading it. It's that simple.

ETA: sorry, frozenas. A little discussion here. :D
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 07:20:04 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 28, 2010, 06:40:21 AP
No, I don't. If you don't USE the forum, until you upgrade it, then you don't NEED any RC3 on that machine. :)
You import the database, adjust the settings, and you're good to go for upgrading it. It's that simple.
I mean for several reasons (to not get any accidental errors) follow the procedure I said.
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 07:58:34 AP
So you upload RC3 files and then upload RC4 files - which replace the RC3 files. Sorry, I don't see what errors can that solve. :)
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marraskuu 28, 2010, 08:30:43 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 28, 2010, 07:58:34 AP
So you upload RC3 files and then upload RC4 files - which replace the RC3 files. Sorry, I don't see what errors can that solve. :)
Database errors :)
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marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:45:22 AP
What database errors? Resulting when, after you upload RC4 files?
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Antes

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marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:57:27 AP
Yoshi, Norv means

you dont need to upload RC3 files ... if you upload RC4 files then import db back (use repair_settings.php or do it manually) you get warning about ur files RC4 db RC3 use Upgrade.php , then you run Upgrade.php :D

NanoSector

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marraskuu 29, 2010, 10:48:53 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:45:22 AP
What database errors? Resulting when, after you upload RC4 files?
I mean if the database structure is different in RC4 and you import files from RC3. That's what I'm saying each time.

Lainaus käyttäjältä: Antes - marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:57:27 AP
Yoshi, Norv means

you dont need to upload RC3 files ... if you upload RC4 files then import db back (use repair_settings.php or do it manually) you get warning about ur files RC4 db RC3 use Upgrade.php , then you run Upgrade.php :D
...I have no idea on what you are saying.
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marraskuu 29, 2010, 01:48:31 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Yoshi2889 - marraskuu 29, 2010, 10:48:53 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:45:22 AP
What database errors? Resulting when, after you upload RC4 files?
I mean if the database structure is different in RC4 and you import files from RC3. That's what I'm saying each time.

You assume that a data-only backup is made, if I finally got your point. Well, it shouldn't be. A complete backup should be done and restored - then you have the structure of RC3 with it. It would also help if there are mods modifying the database installed on the old forum. Really, for moving, a complete backup should be made. Restoring a complete backup creates the necessary structure.
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marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:16:34 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 29, 2010, 01:48:31 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Yoshi2889 - marraskuu 29, 2010, 10:48:53 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:45:22 AP
What database errors? Resulting when, after you upload RC4 files?
I mean if the database structure is different in RC4 and you import files from RC3. That's what I'm saying each time.

You assume that a data-only backup is made, if I finally got your point. Well, it shouldn't be. A complete backup should be done and restored - then you have the structure of RC3 with it. It would also help if there are mods modifying the database installed on the old forum. Really, for moving, a complete backup should be made. Restoring a complete backup creates the necessary structure.
No, I mean if you make a complete backup from a RC3 installation and place it into a RC4 installation it could cause issues if the structure is made different.
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marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:21:36 IP Viimeisin muokkaus: marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:29:56 IP käyttäjältä Norv
Yoshi, you upgrade that installation. You don't USE it, i.e. you don't display topics, you don't post new messages, etc, but UPGRADE it.
That's exactly what you do your way: by uploading RC3 files, uploading RC4 files, overwriting RC3 files with RC4. Then repair settings. Then run upgrade.
That's exactly what you do "my" way: by uploading RC4 files. Then repair settings. Then run upgrade.
The only thing that you need is Settings.php and Settings_bak.php. (to repair)

Really, if you feel better that way (just to know there were RC3 files at a moment in time, even if they're not USED, but overwritten instead?), then please, feel free to do so. :)
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marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:31:25 IP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Norv - marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:21:36 IP
Yoshi, you upgrade that installation. You don't USE it, i.e. you don't display topics, you don't post new messages, etc, but UPGRADE it.
That's exactly what you do your way: by uploading RC3 files, uploading RC4 files, overwriting RC3 files with RC4. Then repair settings. Then run upgrade.
That's exactly what you do "my" way: by uploading RC4 files. Then repair settings. Then run upgrade.
The only thing that you need is Settings.php and Settings_bak.php. (to repair)

Really, if you feel better that way (just to know there were RC3 files at a moment in time, even if they're not USED, but overwritten instead?), then please, feel free to do so. :)
*sighs* I don't think you get it at all.
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marraskuu 29, 2010, 02:33:14 IP
Give me an example then. :)
WHY exactly would you need all RC3 files for?
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