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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #240 on: June 02, 2014, 06:28:09 PM »
That's in total, not currently installed. I expect the actual number of people who currently have that installed is about 50%. I figure you have to account for people who no longer use it and also multiple installs from a single download, and even then 50% is probably a bit high. Still, even 8 million is a huge number of people sipping the snake oil.
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #241 on: June 10, 2014, 04:48:17 AM »
With the truth being told, I'm feeling a little bit hopeless. But still, you rock! I would SUPER appreciate it if you could give me any guidance!
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #242 on: June 10, 2014, 05:43:12 PM »
guidance in regards to what?
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #243 on: June 10, 2014, 05:43:35 PM »
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #245 on: October 23, 2014, 07:50:59 PM »
Great post :)

I started researching more about SEO the last months and its amazing how people say all sorts of things (that are often just guesses, as you said on another topic) about it as if it was completely accurate. Good to see a good post about that for a change. Hard to find someone to trust in this whole mess.

I made some simple keywords list for my forum and that's pretty much all I've done.

My opinion on this so far is that if other things like presentation/good html/organization matter (the same is valid for non-forum sites) then its again back to: SEO on that doesn't matter all that much. If you're making a good site you'll make good code and organize it well. And you'll make good content for it. You'll try to make your forum be a good place to post in. Same thing for blog posts etc, you're writing ultimately for users to read your content, not machines. If you're trying to write for machines you're missing the point of writing content for your site. You don't need to do these things just because of SEO, that's just a bonus that comes from making a good site.

There's a lot that I don't know on how google uses or gather data, but if they're constantly avoiding "SEO measures" and are trying to detect good content/sites, then isn't focusing on that the best thing to focus on for both users and machines?

Like someone else said on the topic: All the time you're wasting with SEO you could spend making more content or improving your site for your users.
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #246 on: October 28, 2014, 09:07:14 AM »
^^ someone who understands what I was getting at and have been getting at for years with this stuff.
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #247 on: November 22, 2014, 12:42:58 PM »
So what is the best way to attract people to you forum? I got the SEO thing. I use social media with massive success and am getting a lot of traffic. I do write incredibly unique and engaging content.

So what about SEO? Does  it have any place in publicizing your forum or no?
If so, what is the best way to go about it?
I understand the titles of the posts will not be SE friendly, but what about using Headlines in the forum's title, or in the Title of the page/home page?

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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #248 on: November 22, 2014, 03:18:36 PM »
You can use your social media accounts and articles to direct people and search engines to your forum.  That will do a lot more than headlines, keywords, etc. Search bots will find your forum regardless, but if you have good content on your social media pages and link back to your forum, that will help tremendously.

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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #249 on: November 23, 2014, 06:11:00 AM »
forum seo cannot get any ranking results unless the website brand is strong.

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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #250 on: November 23, 2014, 06:14:00 AM »
forum seo cannot get any ranking results unless the website brand is strong.

Pretty much, yes. Thanks for playing.
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #251 on: May 04, 2015, 12:42:34 PM »
All i know that SEO helped my business website to rank high in google. I asked an SEO consultant last year to help me with my website. Allowing my company to become a top of mind choice for local consumers.

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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #252 on: May 04, 2015, 12:48:07 PM »
That's the whole purpose of this topic: site != forum
In your site, you control the content. In your forum, you don't.
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #253 on: September 03, 2015, 09:41:14 AM »
Very interesting this discussion. It's the first time I contribute here.

Friendly URLs are important, but there are other more important aspects. The URLs need to be friendly, for I discovered that many boards systems, the position of the parameters, open duplicate pages for indexing, the system working the way. Of course organize links with unfriendly URLs is very bad.

But by no means the forum that uses this URL scheme will not achieve good positions. Important to have unique content and that people who post questions in the forum and create unprecedented responses and for this to happen the subject should be as targeted as possible.

It is also important that the forum discussions are cited on the web, generating links. No use having content and legal issue if people do not citram the fórumem other forums, discussions on other blogs, for example.

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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #254 on: September 03, 2015, 09:52:16 AM »
I would like to supplement with something else.

I said that the friendly URL`s are important, but there are other more serious aspects. But to succeed in optimizing you must have good content is unique system with clean code, quality links on the web, among others.

But to get an idea, on a project in Brazil, the official blog of site, made with Wordpress, I had unfriendly URL, like /?p=12. But after we changed to edit URL manually, the positive result came a few weeks later.

I still think forums should use friendly URLs.
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #255 on: September 03, 2015, 10:01:35 AM »
you are incorrect in your primary assertion so-called "friendly" URLs are close to worthless, as far as "SEO" is concerned...
... and, while backlinks definitely help, having the content that matches the search term in the search engine is really the only part that matters.


And issues with WordPress and SEO are completely and utterly different beasts from Forums.

If you want to use "friendly" urls because you think they make it easier for your users... then go ahead, but don't make any mistake in thinking that those urls have any effect on Search Engines.
Additionally, as has alreayd been pointed out --  if you use the post title as the "friendly" url -- how many posts do you think we would have here that were simplemachines.org/community/help-me
in a forum environment, with USER generated content, it is useless (actually, I would hazard an opinion that it is actually WORSE THAN useless, since you have far too many duplicated or similar post titles.

In a blog, the primary author controls the post-title and can optimize it for simplicity and keywords that people will recognize (still makes no difference to search engines, though)



BTW: Removed the link since it's not actually relevant to the discussion.
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #256 on: September 14, 2015, 11:57:02 AM »
you are incorrect in your primary assertion so-called "friendly" URLs are close to worthless, as far as "SEO" is concerned...
... and, while backlinks definitely help, having the content that matches the search term in the search engine is really the only part that matters.


And issues with WordPress and SEO are completely and utterly different beasts from Forums.

If you want to use "friendly" urls because you think they make it easier for your users... then go ahead, but don't make any mistake in thinking that those urls have any effect on Search Engines.
Additionally, as has alreayd been pointed out --  if you use the post title as the "friendly" url -- how many posts do you think we would have here that were simplemachines.org/community/help-me
in a forum environment, with USER generated content, it is useless (actually, I would hazard an opinion that it is actually WORSE THAN useless, since you have far too many duplicated or similar post titles.

In a blog, the primary author controls the post-title and can optimize it for simplicity and keywords that people will recognize (still makes no difference to search engines, though)



BTW: Removed the link since it's not actually relevant to the discussion.

But I found on so many places that the backlinks are more important than content, but on my site I wrote good content and made better links than my competitors, but I cant beat them.

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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #257 on: January 06, 2016, 12:03:37 AM »
Hi All
Just spent 5 months fine tuning, building my hobby forum...
Ive learned quite a bit about simple machines but I have no idea how to make the forum seen by search engines and the community...
I type my address in google and nothing, freakin sweet bugger all...
I don't want to spend countless amounts of money using a CEO just for a hobby forum and don't want to abandon all the work ive put in over the 5 months.
Can anyone please......help me in a free or low cost option/procedure to get this off the ground?
Cheers
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #258 on: January 06, 2016, 12:12:50 AM »
Did you submit your link to google? If there aren't any existing links to your forum and you haven't submitted your site to google then the crawler won't be able to find it too easily.

What is your forum URL?
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Re: Forum SEO is a myth
« Reply #259 on: January 09, 2016, 08:13:32 PM »
If SEO is myth then Can somebody explain this:
Google not interesting about my site. So I make some changes and Voila