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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #420 on: June 07, 2011, 02:24:11 PM »
Let's wait for the Windows 8 first ....

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #421 on: June 07, 2011, 02:25:41 PM »
Let's wait for the Windows 8 first ....
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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #422 on: June 07, 2011, 02:33:33 PM »

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #423 on: June 07, 2011, 03:36:29 PM »
Let's wait for the Windows 8 first ....

At least we have a pretty good idea of when Windows 8 will be released...
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« Reply #424 on: June 07, 2011, 04:05:41 PM »
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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #425 on: June 07, 2011, 04:10:29 PM »
Our bodies are ready.

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #426 on: June 07, 2011, 04:49:39 PM »


Emoticon of the day for me. Thanks for that. ;D

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #427 on: June 07, 2011, 06:21:45 PM »
This looks like a new episode in the infamous reality series "SMF team fights and quits". Damn... 2.0 final looks very far away all of a sudden. :( *deep sigh*

Not really. Motoko isn't on the team and hasn't been for ages. His grumbling doesn't affect anything.

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #428 on: June 07, 2011, 06:46:11 PM »
Not really. Motoko isn't on the team and hasn't been for ages. His grumbling doesn't affect anything.

Indeed. That, however, doesn't mean I can't snark a little. I mean, the OpenID bug that was all of a sudden a stopper had been present for many many months. It's interesting that it was so suddenly considered a blocker to 2.0 rather than a major or medium-priority bug for a 2.0.1 release. I mean, that's happened in the past. You're not going to get any kind of complex software completely bug-free. Instead of delaying until it's "prefect", just release once all the crucial things (data loss bugs, for instance) are done and make a few bugfix updates later.

It's been how long since the NPO has fully owned the software? I recall when the public was being told that the transfer was the only thing holding up the release and pointing fingers about signatures and other stuff. I also recall a few of the developers simply stopping coding because they didn't want to work on a project that might become "dead". (not sure if that exact word was used, but that was implied for sure...)

Why not just have gone for the truth with a simple "We're not quite comfortable releasing it in the current state" rather than blaming outside forces? I guess that wouldn't go because then the current team would have had to take responsibility for any further delays instead of conveniently blaming the problem-du-jour.

I am very glad to see the current team start owning up to some of the delay that has occurred now that there is nobody/nothing to blame, I just wish that had started sooner as owning the problem leads to action to resolve it (for better or worse).
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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #429 on: June 07, 2011, 06:49:58 PM »
*yawn*

Have a nice day. :)

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #430 on: June 07, 2011, 06:54:15 PM »
Surely everyone knows the delays are now due to the developers? They are after all the ones coding it and will be the ones releasing it.

Making a statement pointing blame seems pointless.

It was the waiting for the signatures for the LLC -> NPO handover, it is now the developers that we're waiting for. They aren't hiding the fact, there were some bugs and they are working on it. It isn't a full time job for any of them.

I'm annoyed with how long it's all taking but it'll be worth it in the end and it's understandable. Pointing fingers won't speed it up or answer anything that most of us realise anyway. To make it clear this isn't a bash to the developers, it's just the truth.

Keep on with the good work guys!

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #431 on: June 07, 2011, 07:21:59 PM »
Not really. Motoko isn't on the team and hasn't been for ages. His grumbling doesn't affect anything.

Indeed. That, however, doesn't mean I can't snark a little. I mean, the OpenID bug that was all of a sudden a stopper had been present for many many months. It's interesting that it was so suddenly considered a blocker to 2.0 rather than a major or medium-priority bug for a 2.0.1 release. I mean, that's happened in the past. You're not going to get any kind of complex software completely bug-free. Instead of delaying until it's "prefect", just release once all the crucial things (data loss bugs, for instance) are done and make a few bugfix updates later.

It's been how long since the NPO has fully owned the software? I recall when the public was being told that the transfer was the only thing holding up the release and pointing fingers about signatures and other stuff. I also recall a few of the developers simply stopping coding because they didn't want to work on a project that might become "dead". (not sure if that exact word was used, but that was implied for sure...)

Why not just have gone for the truth with a simple "We're not quite comfortable releasing it in the current state" rather than blaming outside forces? I guess that wouldn't go because then the current team would have had to take responsibility for any further delays instead of conveniently blaming the problem-du-jour.

I am very glad to see the current team start owning up to some of the delay that has occurred now that there is nobody/nothing to blame, I just wish that had started sooner as owning the problem leads to action to resolve it (for better or worse).

I take back my earlier post about Motoko. It's evident that he's taken over Arantor's fifteen-paragraphs-to-say-one-thing-halfway position. No offense meant, Arantor :P
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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #432 on: June 07, 2011, 07:29:32 PM »
What's wrong with some online novels, to loosely paraphrase a team member here?
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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #433 on: June 07, 2011, 07:37:55 PM »
What's wrong with some online novels, to loosely paraphrase a team member here?

Here ya go. ;D


          I wandered as a beggar, being fed from town to town as the local people saw fit, often being stoned instead or threatened with imprisonment. On occasion, I was able to convince some learned man that I was a sincere scholar, and was thereby permitted to read the Ancient Records in which the details of necromancy, sorcery, magick and alchemy are given.  I learned of the spells that cause men illness, the plague, blindness, insanity and even death.  I learned the various classes of demons and evil gods that exist, and of the old legends concerning the Ancient Ones.  I was thus able to arm myself against the dread Maskim, who lie in wait about the boundaries of the world, ready to trap the unwary and devour the sacrifices set out at night and in deserted places; against the she-devil LAMMASHTA, who is called Sword that Splits the Skull, the sight of whom causes horror and dismay, and (some say) death of a most uncommon nature.

          In time I learned of the names and properties of all the demons, devils, fiends and monsters listed herein, in this Book of the Black Earth.  I learned of the powers in the astral Gods, and how to summon thier aid in times of need.  I learned, too, of the frightful beings who dwell beyond the astral spirits, who guard the entrance to the Temple of the Lost, of the Ancient Days the Ancient of the Ancient Ones, whose Name I connot write here.

          In my solitary ceremonies in the hills, worshipping with fire and sword, with water and dagger, and with the assistance of strange grass that grows wild in certain parts of the MASSHU, and with which I had unwittingly built my fire before the rock, that grass that gives the mind great power to travel termendous distances into the heavens, as also into the hells, I recieved the formulae for the amulets and talismans which follow, which provide the Priest with safe passage among the spheres wherein he may travel in search of the Wisdom.

          But now, after One Thousand-and-One moons of the journey, the Maskim nip at my heels, the Rabishu pull at my hair, Lammashta opens her dread jaws, AZAG-THOTH gloats blindly at his throne, KUTULU raises his head and stares up through the Veils of Sunken Varloorni, up through the Abyss, and fixes his stare upon me; wherefore I must with haste write this Book lest my end come sooner than I had prepared.  For indeed, it appears as though I have failed in some regard as to the order of the rites, or to the formulae, or to the sacrifices, for now it appears as if the entire host of ERESSKIGAL lies waiting, dreaming, drooling for my departure.  I pray the gods that I am saved and not perish as did the Priest, ABDUL BEN-MARTU, in Jerusalem (the gods remember and have mercy upon him!).  My fate is no longer writ in the stars, for I have broken the Chaldean Covenant by seeking power over the Zonei.  I have set foot on the moon, and the moon no longer has power over me.  The lines of my life have been obliterated by my wanderings in the Waste, over the letters writ in the heavens by the gods.  And even now I can hear the wolves howling in the mountains as they did that fateful night, and they are calling my name, and the names of the Others.  I fear for my flesh, but I fear for my spirit more.



SMF team politics in a nutshell. ;)

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #434 on: June 07, 2011, 07:44:29 PM »
spam >:D
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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #435 on: June 07, 2011, 07:57:34 PM »
O_O Goodness!

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #436 on: June 07, 2011, 08:10:07 PM »
Well, that's how some people seem to see it. Personally I've never thought it was that bad.

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #437 on: June 08, 2011, 12:38:27 AM »
 :'( :'( :'(....no longer comforting
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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #438 on: June 08, 2011, 02:48:41 AM »
I believe SMF will require more developer . So i suggest SMF to recruit more voluntary developer. :)

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Re: SMF 2.0 Update Part Last
« Reply #439 on: June 08, 2011, 03:00:49 AM »
I wandered as a beggar
(snip)

Um, does that count as a copyright violation?
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