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HELP! Way to view original post after edited?

Started by Kat9119, May 07, 2011, 12:38:13 AM

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Kat9119

Got someone on my forum talking smack about me. They edited their posts but my mods swear he said some very bad stuff about me. No proof other then their word...and well they are new. So any way to see the original text?

Sir Osis of Liver


No, the original post is replaced in the database with the edited text  You can, however, change membergroup permissions to disallow post edits.

Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend,
 we were all equal in the end.

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Kat9119

Quote from: Krash. on May 07, 2011, 12:57:32 AM

No, the original post is replaced in the database with the edited text  You can, however, change membergroup permissions to disallow post edits.



Think I might have to do that it just sucks :(

Sir Osis of Liver


You can move the offender(s) into a separate membergroup, so the rest of your members are not affected.

Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend,
 we were all equal in the end.

                                     - R. Waters

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Quote from: Kat9119 on May 07, 2011, 12:38:13 AM
Got someone on my forum talking smack about me. They edited their posts but my mods swear he said some very bad stuff about me. No proof other then their word...and well they are new. So any way to see the original text?
The reason SMF doesn't keep the original posts is because that could soon become a huge amount of mostly unneeded data on the database.
What you could do, is limit the edit time of posts - For example, allow people just one or two minutes to edit their posts for typos.

Then, activate a recycle board and allow people to delete their posts if they wish, instead of editing them - this way your moderators, and users can safely delete posts, and you would still find them in the recycle board if you needed to see what they contained. :)
Slava
Ukraini!
"Before you allow people access to your forum, especially in an administrative position, you must be aware that that person can seriously damage your forum. Therefore, you should only allow people that you trust, implicitly, to have such access." -Douglas

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Illori

there is a mod for 2.0 that allows the post history to be obtained, you may be interested in this.

kat

Just curious...

Would this kinda thing show-up, perhaps, in the moderation log?

Illori

moderation log, just shows that it was edited, but not what was changed.

Kat9119

Thanks everyone for the help. I trust my moderators very much. But they didn't have the authority to mod that specific forum so they couldn't delete the post.

Quote from: Illori on May 07, 2011, 05:59:00 AM
there is a mod for 2.0 that allows the post history to be obtained, you may be interested in this.

I'm not updating to 2.0 because a huge draw to my website is the chat room. And the mod that integrates them doesn't work properly. Therefore my members get angry if they cannot see WHO is in the chat room ON the forum and how many are in it. So I haven't upgraded. Plus, I think the mod they do have now is for a newer version of the chat, and that chat doesn't work for any of my members...weirdly lol. I use FlashChat and there are just no other options right now :(

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on May 07, 2011, 01:25:23 AM
Quote from: Kat9119 on May 07, 2011, 12:38:13 AM
Got someone on my forum talking smack about me. They edited their posts but my mods swear he said some very bad stuff about me. No proof other then their word...and well they are new. So any way to see the original text?
The reason SMF doesn't keep the original posts is because that could soon become a huge amount of mostly unneeded data on the database.
What you could do, is limit the edit time of posts - For example, allow people just one or two minutes to edit their posts for typos.

Then, activate a recycle board and allow people to delete their posts if they wish, instead of editing them - this way your moderators, and users can safely delete posts, and you would still find them in the recycle board if you needed to see what they contained. :)

I do have the recycle board, but the moderators only have specific forums to moderate. My jr. admins weren't around at the time otherwise they could have deleted the topic and have it go to the recycle bin.

How do you limit how much time they have to edit their post? I think I like that idea.

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Quote from: Kat9119 on May 07, 2011, 03:23:25 PM
How do you limit how much time they have to edit their post? I think I like that idea.
Admin -> Forum -> Posts and Topics -> Maximum time after posting to allow edit (0 to disable)

:)
Slava
Ukraini!
"Before you allow people access to your forum, especially in an administrative position, you must be aware that that person can seriously damage your forum. Therefore, you should only allow people that you trust, implicitly, to have such access." -Douglas

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Kat9119

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on May 07, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
Quote from: Kat9119 on May 07, 2011, 03:23:25 PM
How do you limit how much time they have to edit their post? I think I like that idea.
Admin -> Forum -> Posts and Topics -> Maximum time after posting to allow edit (0 to disable)

:)

Never even noticed that there haha. Thank you! :)

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Slava
Ukraini!
"Before you allow people access to your forum, especially in an administrative position, you must be aware that that person can seriously damage your forum. Therefore, you should only allow people that you trust, implicitly, to have such access." -Douglas

How you can help SMF

Kat9119

Have an issue with this. . .

I fixed it so people couldn't edit their posts after 5 minutes...but apparently this makes it so they can also no longer delete their posts after that time frame. Is there a way to avoid this?

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Sorry you've had to wait - That's a good question though, and I must admit I'm not sure why it does that in the first place... I've always thought that setting was for editing only, not for deleting...
Slava
Ukraini!
"Before you allow people access to your forum, especially in an administrative position, you must be aware that that person can seriously damage your forum. Therefore, you should only allow people that you trust, implicitly, to have such access." -Douglas

How you can help SMF

Kat9119

No problem. I just took the limit off for the time being. I just found it really weird

JimM

I would think it was designed that way because editing really would include modifying or deleting.  If the time limit didn't also include the deleting of the post, then the offensive text that was changed could just be deleted after the time limit has expired which effectively circumvents the purpose of the time limit.

Personally, I only allow moderators to delete post and they all go to the recycle board and can be reviewed before really being deleted.
Jim "JimM" Moore
Former Support Specialist

Kat9119

Quote from: JimM on July 20, 2011, 09:50:15 PM
I would think it was designed that way because editing really would include modifying or deleting.  If the time limit didn't also include the deleting of the post, then the offensive text that was changed could just be deleted after the time limit has expired which effectively circumvents the purpose of the time limit.

Personally, I only allow moderators to delete post and they all go to the recycle board and can be reviewed before really being deleted.

Yeah, I have the recycle board as well. So, if a member deletes their own posts it goes there, so I was hoping what would happen was if someone wanted to post something bad, and found they couldn't edit it, they'd just delete it and I'd see it anyhow. But if I put the limit on it, they can't delete their posts.

JimM

I would think not allowing them to delete it would serve the purpose.  If they delete it before the time limit expires, you see it in the recycle board.  If they can't delete it, you see it then as well.  Only issue with that is so does everyone else that happens along before you see it.
Jim "JimM" Moore
Former Support Specialist

dubob4432

Quote from: Illori on May 07, 2011, 05:59:00 AM
there is a mod for 2.0 that allows the post history to be obtained, you may be interested in this.

any chance of a link to the mod or its name?

TheListener

Quote from: dubob4432 on June 04, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
Quote from: Illori on May 07, 2011, 05:59:00 AM
there is a mod for 2.0 that allows the post history to be obtained, you may be interested in this.

any chance of a link to the mod or its name?

The mod is incompatible with 1.1.x

It will only work on 2.0

dubob4432

Quote from: Old Fossil on June 04, 2012, 07:53:32 PM
Quote from: dubob4432 on June 04, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
Quote from: Illori on May 07, 2011, 05:59:00 AM
there is a mod for 2.0 that allows the post history to be obtained, you may be interested in this.

any chance of a link to the mod or its name?

The mod is incompatible with 1.1.x

It will only work on 2.0

sorry, meant to mention i am running 2.x - found this thread via a google search

JimM

Jim "JimM" Moore
Former Support Specialist

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