Reporting some criminals (Skinmod.eu)

[Miasma]

Hi, I think it's not proper to promote illicit sites on these forums (http://www.simplemachines.org/).

What's wrong with this site (skinmod.eu):
- it's a warez site: eg check out this post http://www.skinmod.eu/index.php?topic=33.0 (Pirate version Photoshop)
- all their theme "designs"/coding is rip off/stolen from someone.

Examples of stolen designs:
- A lot of their themes are steals from CompleteVB
http://www.completevb.com/premade.php?premades=36
- "Like Vb4" theme is a steal from Vbulletin.
- See Skinmod's theme demos here: http://www.skinmod.eu/adaptations/

These kids think stealing is "adapting".

I don't think I need to go on. I found all this after few mins on their site.

What I suggest is remove all their posts/themes from this forum/site and ban everyone involved in this crime ring.

[Illori]

we have no control over who uses the software we just provide it, if you have issues with people using the software contact their host.

[Miasma]

You don't get it.

I must have posted this on wrong forum. This has nothing to do with software usage.

Themes forum would me more appropiate maybe, move?

[Illori]

we have no control over what others do, unless the author of the originals has an issue we cant do anything.

[Miasma]

You don't get it, stop posting.

I'm not calling anyone to take an action in order to stop their doings. I'm just reporting users posting illegal/warez content on SMF forums (this site). Which is against the rules.
Am I wrong in making this topic? All I ever see is everyone admiring those stolen themes on these forums. Time to reveal their true face, don't you think?

A quote from this thread - http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=189886.0:

No sites containing adult, warez, or otherwise illegal content.

[Illori]

those are rules for only that board, it does not apply elsewhere on this site.

[Miasma]

So promoting warez elsewhere is ok?

I just couldn't find any generic rules, but I'm pretty sure SMF does not support this stuff. Common sense?

[Illori]

as long as they are not asking for support here we have no control over what they do with their forum/site.

[Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R)]

Miasma,
Supporting offensive/warez related/adult content related/illegal websites with SMF as their forum software is dependent on the individual member within the SMF team. Majority of the team members avoid supporting those websites when the owners of those websites ask for support related to their coding issues.

Any links relating to the offending websites are removed here at SMF forums in order to keep a family friendly environment. There are no rules against the usage of this software which should stop them from doing whatever they are right now.

The Showcase board is meant to show off their SMF forums but has a set of rules that needs to be followed in order to have a thread approved in that section of the forum.

I hope that explains your concerns?

[Miasma]

You don't get it.

I must have posted this on wrong forum. This has nothing to do with software usage.

Themes forum would me more appropiate maybe, move?

Move this topic. This has nothing to do with wether they use SMF or frickin Drupal for their site.

To those who don't get it I'll bring an example.
We all know Dzinerstudio, right? Would you approve someone taking one of Dzinerstudio's premium theme and posting it on SMF theme site? That's what's going on...

[Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R)]

Oh I get it!

You mean remove all of these themes? http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=profile;u=170308

Good discussion. I'll pass on the message.

[Miasma]

Not just 1 guy. It's a whole community dedicated to stealing designs.

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;name[]=skinmod;desc[]=skinmod;start=0

Code Select Expand

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;name[]=skinmod;desc[]=skinmod;start=0

[NanoSector]

As for the warez stuff on there -- It's the site's responsibility to stay out of trouble. SMF as in the software can't do anything about it, nor can Simple Machines.

Oh, here's a fixed link:
http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;name=skinmod;desc=skinmod;start=0

[Gary]

Before I take any action against these authors, I want to be clear:

- You're claiming that these themes are rips from CompletevB without permission?

Can you PM me the complete list indicating which SMF Theme is a rip of which vB skin?

(I don't have time to go through pinpointing which SMF theme is a rip of which vB skin.)

[ARG01]

I have been following Skinmod for some time now and know their themes and code writing well. There really is nothing to suggest that they are ripping themes from anyone. All I see them doing is what most designers do, getting ideas from others and using them in their own designs.
Other that implementing a bit of outside code (which is available to anyone) in a few of their themes I see nothing illegal going on as far as theme designs that they are offering.

As far as the material that any site is offering such as illegal copies of Photoshop that the OP linked to, I do not agree with that at all and any promotion of ones site here at SMF should indeed be considered for discussion by the SMF team.
Any activity such as unlawfully offering and transferring any known copyrighted material on any website is not acceptable and should not be acceptable here at SMF.  It's just not good business.

[Miasma]

I have been following Skinmod for some time now and know their themes and code writing well. There really is nothing to suggest that they are ripping themes from anyone.

I don't think you're paying attention.

Compare this http://www.skinmod.eu/index.php?topic=228.msg1495#msg1495
To this http://www.completevb.com/product/4


Not every design is probably stolen.

I'm pretty sure they tried to do something of their own with this theme:

You can see their real "skill" from that pic. 

When it comes to end users, they don't use this theme of course, they'll use one that has been stolen, the good looking ones. Without even knowing they're breaking law.

[Gary]

Compare this http://www.skinmod.eu/index.php?topic=228.msg1495#msg1495
To this http://www.completevb.com/product/4

That's certainly a rip, however, I can only take action against themes that are on the theme site on SM.org. What they distribute on their site is their business.

[ARG01]

How do you know that they did not gain allowance to convert any theme from another program to SMF? What proof do you have available?

[Deaks]

Miasma, we were not aware that this user was doing such action, if you can please provide Gary with details he asks in a pm we will look into them further. As for the posting of there site we are discussing this.  I understand what you are saying perfectly, but please just chill with this for now.  I promise you that any theme that they have ripped will be removed from this site, as for there own site well illori did had one correct point we cannot take action on there site so it will be up to the designs respective owners to issue DMCA's where applicable.

[Ozzie]

i dont know if this is relevent but  the skin given as a example here "crystal clear" has in the copyrite at the bottom Theme adapted to SMF by YIHAD
designed by CompleteVB so he is giving credit to the origanal designer and it links back to the designers site so maybe the gun is been jumped a bit here