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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2012, 10:10:22 AM »
No I dont think so, we have had plenty of blackouts over the past year ;)
We are happy the servers are stable now with the new hardware and settings :p Let's enjoy that :D

Plus, the impact we will bring is insignificant... People will hardly notice it, we wont raise any more attention than the attention we hopefully generated by making this post.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2012, 10:25:46 AM »
I'm sorry, but I've got a question: let's say I have a forum. It runs very well, I'm getting 50 new members a day. But, I get a lot of links to sites with wares on it. The forum runs on 12 servers:

1. New York, USA
2. Madrid, Spain
3. Beijing, China
4. Moscow, Russia
5. Amsterdam, The Netherlands
6. Tokyo, Japan
7. Stockholm, Sweden
8. Blahblah...

Does any country have the right to remove my site from the internet?
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2012, 10:27:19 AM »
according to the SOPA law, the US would have the right to try...

and considering the clout of the US, might succeed
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2012, 10:44:09 AM »
And if the site has a US domain name (.com, .net, .org etc.) it can take the lot down in a single hit.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2012, 11:08:16 AM »

I can't understand why someone can agree with that bill, event Hollywood....
They must understand that there flim or music become more famous due to how Internet work now a day...

The irony of it all is that if this goes through, most of these "Hollywood" actors and musician will suddenly find their websites and blogs in danger.




Hollywood Actor - Gee, maybe we should have thought this through?
Musician - Ya think?


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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2012, 01:05:08 PM »
And if the site has a US domain name (.com, .net, .org etc.) it can take the lot down in a single hit.

Not just that. Because the law allows interfering with DNS, DNS server operators will be required to maintain an updated blacklist of all domains, even those with registrars outside US control, for which their servers will have to return no response or point to one of those nice ICE warning websites. The effect will basically completely break DNSSEC.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2012, 05:09:55 PM »
Yeah, I was aware of that but wanted to let the above sink in first. No point in trying to explain all of the problems with this bill in one go, people will just look at it, then tl;dr...
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2012, 08:00:21 PM »
The heat is starting to really get to Congress: Under voter pressure, members of Congress backpedal (hard) on SOPA - Ars Technica

If you live in the US and have not contacted your representatives in both the House and Senate, you should do so and express your opinion on SOPA and PIPA.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2012, 08:05:20 PM »
We are not there yet, but it is quite some good news! :)
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2012, 08:06:38 PM »
Indeed, but more pressure needs to be applied. As said earlier in this topic- Congress pays attention to the big money unless there is a loud enough public outcry supported by the press as well.  They are at least listening, so we all need to keep pushing it into their faces.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2012, 11:16:17 AM »
Some good news on this.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/13/rep-lamar-smith-blocks-dns-blocking-from-sopa/

That takes the very worst of the teeth out of the bite of this bill but I'm not sure how much bite it still has left - and note that it isn't being removed unilaterally, but 'so that the Committee can further examine the issues surrounding this provision'. That's not as friendly as it sounds - it is quite simply 'for now'.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2012, 02:13:14 PM »
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/student-extradited-us-over-tv-website-153927768.html

this is whats happening even before this takes affect if it does,,,a good read and eye opener..this isnt a joke..our rights are being flushed down the toilet......don't think you wont be touched in some way if this goes through....You dont have to  be in the states...READ THE LINK...PLZ

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2012, 02:46:18 PM »
That takes the very worst of the teeth out of the bite of this bill but I'm not sure how much bite it still has left - and note that it isn't being removed unilaterally, but 'so that the Committee can further examine the issues surrounding this provision'. That's not as friendly as it sounds - it is quite simply 'for now'.

It's just an administrative hold, the proposal isn't to actually remove it. It's likely that the hope is this will calm things down for it to get forced through, then the DNS blocking can just be started up after some "review". Given the quality of the discussion previously, I doubt it will be all that balanced.

Edit: The DNS blocking "deactivation" is for PIPA (the Senate bill), but remains in SOPA for now. Note that the provision isn't being removed, just put on hold so it can be activated at any later time if the bill passes and becomes law.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2012, 04:10:30 PM »
This is REALLY pissing me off!
The first time i read it i thought it must be some kind of joke, or at least, it would be gone within one or two days.
I can't believe they are still planning to make this rule! oO

Well, there's always some crazy stuff going on in the US, but this...?
And there are lots of websites i really like over there too. :-\
Hope you can slap them good and hard, so they never come up with this kind of nonesense again! ???

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2012, 05:21:24 PM »
That takes the very worst of the teeth out of the bite of this bill but I'm not sure how much bite it still has left - and note that it isn't being removed unilaterally, but 'so that the Committee can further examine the issues surrounding this provision'. That's not as friendly as it sounds - it is quite simply 'for now'.

It's just an administrative hold, the proposal isn't to actually remove it. It's likely that the hope is this will calm things down for it to get forced through, then the DNS blocking can just be started up after some "review". Given the quality of the discussion previously, I doubt it will be all that balanced.

Edit: The DNS blocking "deactivation" is for PIPA (the Senate bill), but remains in SOPA for now. Note that the provision isn't being removed, just put on hold so it can be activated at any later time if the bill passes and becomes law.

Oh, awesome, so not even as un-toothless as I thought it was. -sigh- BACK TO THE WAR, PEOPLE OF THE INTERNET!
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2012, 02:01:54 AM »
I seen this video online and I thought how much of it is true. They where the ones that gave us the tools and now they want to sue us for using them, nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #96 on: January 16, 2012, 12:51:01 PM »
From Slashdot today:

"In a surprise move, Representative Eric Cantor(R-VA) announced that he will stop all action on SOPA, effectively killing the bill. This move was most likely due to the huge online protest and the White House threatening to veto the bill if it had passed. But don't celebrate yet. PIPA (the Senate's version of SOPA) is still up for consideration."

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/16/1457237/house-kills-sopa
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #97 on: January 16, 2012, 01:20:47 PM »
Oh that is some very good news!
Now we just need PIPA pulled :p
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2012, 02:04:46 PM »
Awesome and great news! :D
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2012, 06:05:27 PM »
Cool. One down and one to go.
The big media money will not stop though, they will lobby for another bill of some sort to target copyright infringement, but with much less bite.
There is a piracy issue, but the MPAA, RIAA, etc, etc, grossly exaggerate their so called losses from piracy. That is another issue altogether though.