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Started by Jim Stone, May 02, 2012, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: climber on February 05, 2013, 08:59:44 PMthanks for the link. that does look interesting. I'll check it out when I get some time. the Karma feature just sux so bad, I can't even say how much. it really causes hassles when someone abuses it and some folks just do. a simple LIKE for individual posts is really something that I'll bet a lot of folks would like. I don't understand all the negativity about it. oh well...[sigh]
QuoteThey can be easily abused, and I don't think that either should ever become default features
Quote from: Arantor on April 04, 2013, 12:42:19 PMWell, karma has been a default feature of SMF for most of a decade if not a full decade.
QuoteLikes can be abused but it's far harder to actually abuse them from experience.
QuoteYes, you're right. It's just that most SMF fora I visit never had it, or turned it off, so I forgot that it was default. I'd bin it as a default feature if it were up to me.
QuoteMaybe, but I think that they discourage people from posting. People are naturally lazy, so if you have a like button, instead of posting a substantive comment when they agree,
Quote from: Arantor on April 04, 2013, 01:01:20 PMHistory shows that it hoovers up the '+1' and 'I agree' posts and that those who write a substantive comment would still naturally have written a substantive comment. Certainly that's what we've found on wedge.org.
QuoteAlso note that there's no dislike button which means if you want to disagree, another round of posts ensues.
QuoteI'd rather just delete said posts as spam, and explain to members that they need to post more substantive comments to comply with the rules of the forum in question.
QuoteA good point, although most debates seem to centre on disagreement, so I think that most people would post if they held a different view in any case.
Quote from: Arantor on April 04, 2013, 01:09:50 PMExperience suggests that tends to discourage people from posting at all if they feel their comments may be deleted if they're not 'meaty enough'.
QuoteIf I started a discussion, and lots of people just clicked a like button, I'd be really irritated, because I want to know why they agree. Quality trumps quantity in my book.
Quote from: Arantor on April 04, 2013, 01:39:38 PMWe're still getting far more posts than likes
QuoteIt all depends on the type of forum you run.
Quote from: Kindred on April 04, 2013, 02:09:34 PMhonestly, I can see the point ot the like (call it thumbs up, or whatever)Personally, I don't think I'd ever use it on a forum that I run...There is some support for having it... I'm just not sure it belongs in the core.... I mean, how many people actually use the existing mods? We know that very few actulaly use karma, as it stands ...
Quote from: Arantor on April 27, 2013, 08:22:27 PMWhy do few people use karma? Because it's abusable. It's not based on posts, it's based on people and it has no accountability in the core (after a short period of time, the entry of who did what is gone, though there are mods for that)