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"Hidden" isn't hidden, at all...

Started by kat, May 30, 2012, 05:59:07 AM

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Elmacik

Not only this forum should be thought while thinking about this issue. Because in many forums, users behave very differently. For example while I was working as an SMF tech at the top 1 tech site in Turkey, I was bombed by barrage of PMs and used this hide feature and it really helped.

But guess what; I started to receive PMs in time saying "hey! I know you are around, you can't hide just answer me!" :)

Things that should be considered:

1- You might be lurking around without posting. So it should not reveal the time you were last active, when you choose not to.
2- Even if you decide to post, you can give the imagination that you posted and logged out at the time.
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IchBin™

Sounds like you need a "Do not disturb" option that turns off PM's while you are in hidden mode. :D
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Elmacik

Actually it's not only the PMs, because people try every single way to reach you. :D Like if you are hanging around the forum, you must also be online in every other way of communication like MSN, Facebook etc..

Receiving PMs is OK, not letting people know you are around is the main stuff.
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Norv

Quote from: Elmacik on June 20, 2012, 03:43:22 AM
1- You might be lurking around without posting. So it should not reveal the time you were last active, when you choose not to.
2- Even if you decide to post, you can give the imagination that you posted and logged out at the time.

Both come to saying that the time should be updated when you post.
How about an action like sending a PM? The user(s) receiving it will see the date and time you sent it.
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Elmacik

Quote from: N. N. on June 24, 2012, 04:14:51 PM
Both come to saying that the time should be updated when you post.
How about an action like sending a PM? The user(s) receiving it will see the date and time you sent it.

If you are sending a PM, you already accept that you will be revealed to that user; so nothing wrong with it. For example MSN warns you when you are offline and sending a message to someone, it says "this person will know you are here when you send the message". I don't think a warning like this is necessary but when you need to send a PM, you are already accepting to have a contact/communication with that member.
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kat

How would it be, if people who hide, for whatever reason, have certain fields in the profile just not show?

Akyhne

Quote from: Kindred on May 30, 2012, 11:29:26 AM
that's why it makes sense to me. :P
It doesn't make sense to me, cause I never can figure out wether I'm oline or not. Very annoying if i want to get in contact with me!!

Chalky

Another issue with this - I've just gone hidden, yet on my front page in the Info Center, the Who's Online bit shows "1 Guest, 7 Users (1 Hidden)" to normal members.

On a small forum like mine where only Admins have the ability to hide, the (1 Hidden) makes it more obvious that I'm there and trying to hide than if I weren't hiding!!!

Is there a way to remove this?

IchBin™

Remove from your Boardindex.template.php:

if (!empty($context['num_users_hidden']))
$bracketList[] = comma_format($context['num_users_hidden']) . ' ' . $txt['hidden'];
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Chalky

Thanks IchBin, I know that should work,  but I've just removed that bit of code and Hidden is still there!  I have cleared forum cache and browser cache but it's still showing (1 Hidden)!  Any ideas?

Bigguy

Honestly, in my opinion. (On this site) none of the team should be hidden. It's like walking into a store to get your favorite beer and you can't find the store clerk to check you out....pretty annoying in my opinion. I understand what a lot of you are saying. All the PM's get annoying and it's hard to deal with sometimes. People bugging you all the time.... is that not why we are here though, lol. I mean I go onto any other site and it's the same way, all the team on those sites are hiding to. If ya really want to hide then just don't be here at that particular time. The whole reason a team is here is to be here for the people.....anyway, if ya really wanna change it then make so if your hidden then your hidden everywhere. You get no PM's while hidden, no nothing...your basically offline, but your here. That's the end of my small little rant I guess. :)

(said with a smile :) )

kat

I hide, because certain members have been known to consider me to be their own, personal, support team.

If they don't know I'm here, they don't send me messages. ;)

It's not infallible, obviously. But, it's cut the number down considerably.

emanuele

* emanuele points to buddy/ignore lists and PM rules. :P


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Hai bisogno di supporto in Italiano?

Aiutateci ad aiutarvi: spiegate bene il vostro problema: no, "non funziona" non è una spiegazione!!
1) Cosa fai,
2) cosa ti aspetti,
3) cosa ottieni.

kat


Chalky

I hid just to try it out (and because I was in a bit of a sulk) but immediately realised it made me more obvious than ever....

emanuele

Quote from: K@ on September 07, 2012, 09:20:49 AM
Rules which get ignored. :P
Rules are ignored by people, not by computers. :P


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Hai bisogno di supporto in Italiano?

Aiutateci ad aiutarvi: spiegate bene il vostro problema: no, "non funziona" non è una spiegazione!!
1) Cosa fai,
2) cosa ti aspetti,
3) cosa ottieni.


emanuele

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=pm;sa=manrules
That's why this exists in the first place. ;)

sender name => then name of the people you don't want PM from
action => delete message

Or:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=profile;area=lists;sa=ignore
"add to ignore list" => add the name of the member
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=profile;area=pmprefs
Receive personal messages from: => All members except those in my ignore list.


Take a peek at what I'm doing! ;D




Hai bisogno di supporto in Italiano?

Aiutateci ad aiutarvi: spiegate bene il vostro problema: no, "non funziona" non è una spiegazione!!
1) Cosa fai,
2) cosa ti aspetti,
3) cosa ottieni.

kat

Maybe an auto-responder saying "Fook off!"?

Shambles

Quote from: K@ on September 08, 2012, 12:53:11 PM
Maybe an auto-responder saying "Fook off!"?

Buhahaha. You've been on my forum haven't you  ;D

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