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Problem with certain email address's

Started by Shadowing, July 25, 2012, 02:04:18 PM

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Shadowing

Alright
do you know any way i can check to see what mail server im running?
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Arantor

For the second time, it won't make any difference.

If you can send some emails, the mail server MUST BE WORKING. If it were a mail server problem, you'd have no emails whatsoever.

If it's specific providers, it's probably specific issues with those specific providers, perhaps they ban any emails that look like SMF messages, under the assumption they are spam.

Shadowing

well i just wanted to know my mail server lol
i could log in and see my incoming mail to [email protected]

phpfreaks.com uses SMF and can send to those emails


anychance you could try to send a email to [email protected]
say in the message "this is a test from Arantor"
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Arantor

I give up, this conversation is going to go around and around in circles; it makes no difference what another site with a modified SMF setup has or does not have, and there is absolutely no chance I'm going to send an email to a random address at a domain I've never heard of.

Shadowing

whats with the attitude man geez.

why does it matter on sending to a domain you never heard of. its virgin mobile for their cell phones. "almost all cell phones have emails address's attached to their phone numbers" Most people dont know that

if it makes no differance with a modified SMF setup has or not then why does php freaks with SMF is able to send to this email address. specially since you have ruled out it being my mail server.
Need to think out side the box Arantor.

You are pretty much saying my situation is impossible but yet this situation is going on. I hope you are not a programer. Cause then when a bug comes up that you swear cant be happening you would blame it on the user and just give up :p

I'm a programer so i need access to the mail server to rule it out.

One thing i was thinking was i was reading how hotmail, gmail etc dont use pop3 so maybe the pop3 is broken and i cant send to pop3 mail clients.

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Colin

Quote from: Shadowing on July 26, 2012, 12:57:23 PM
whats with the attitude man geez.

why does it matter on sending to a domain you never heard of. its virgin mobile for their cell phones. "almost all cell phones have emails address's attached to their phone numbers" Most people dont know that
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if it makes no differance with a modified SMF setup has or not then why does php freaks with SMF is able to send to this email address. specially since you have ruled out it being my mail server.
Need to think out side the box Arantor.
What?
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You are pretty much saying my situation is impossible but yet this situation is going on. I hope you are not a programer. Cause then when a bug comes up that you swear cant be happening you would blame it on the user and just give up :p
He is not saying the situation is impossible, he is saying your approach to solving the situation is impossible. Please don't blame this as an SMF issue.
QuoteI'm a programer so i need access to the mail server to rule it out.
If you were a programmer you would understand that again this has absolutely nothing to do with your mail server.
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One thing i was thinking was i was reading how hotmail, gmail etc dont use pop3 so maybe the pop3 is broken and i cant send to pop3 mail clients.
This has nothing to do with how the gmail and hotmail receive email... Clients wouldn't be able to receive emails from ANYWHERE if they were using an unsupported protocol by their mail host. And to the best of my knowledge they both are configurable to use POP3.
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Colin

Arantor

Quotewhats with the attitude man geez.

Being prepared to say that I'm not going to waste my time with your random directions that aren't going to lead you anywhere.

Quoteif it makes no differance with a modified SMF setup has or not then why does php freaks with SMF is able to send to this email address. specially since you have ruled out it being my mail server.
Need to think out side the box Arantor.

Because they very likely made other changes. Like customising the emails, and quite possibly altering the header to not say it's from SMF.

QuoteHe is not saying the situation is impossible, he is saying your approach to solving the situation is impossible.

Correct.

QuoteI'm a programer so i need access to the mail server to rule it out.

One thing i was thinking was i was reading how hotmail, gmail etc dont use pop3 so maybe the pop3 is broken and i cant send to pop3 mail clients.

Programmer? Really? You could have fooled me.

Though you really have no conception of how email systems work.

Shadowing

actually i was suggusting that it wasn't SMF

I looked at a email I got from phpfreaks.com and the from address is

[email protected]
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nend

It may be a spam filter on the server your sending to or the email is too big, some companies will send this to a online mailbox instead of the device, my carrier does this.

Arantor

OK, so let's go back to what I brought up some posts ago and which you promptly derailed me, and now you'll understand why I don't really want to get involved any further because of the amount of time wasted on this thread.

phpfreaks.com resolves to an IP address via its DNS records. It will also resolve to an IP address by what's called an MX record.

Some mail agents check the reverse DNS - they see an email has come from a particular place, they will check that the address it claims to come from matches the IP address range that the domain name resolves to. So in phpfreaks.com's case, the email says it comes from phpfreaks.com, some hosts look up phpfreaks.com and checks the incoming IP address of the email against the MX record for phpfreaks.com and if they don't match, it is likely to discard it.

This is why I asked what your domain was set up for with respect to email, because I wasn't sure if there was a valid MX record for it.

But, you're a programmer, you know best and it's obviously the mail server. It almost certainly isn't the mail server itself (because it's sending outbound) and is related to the anti-spam settings on the destination, but you're convinced you're right and as such there's no point my replying any further because you're determined to waste both our time.

Shadowing

trying some expermental stuff out and the  from: address wasnt what i expected
when sending it to a hotmail address
says its from [email protected]
i was expecting it to say [email protected]
also i noticed that hotmail detected this automactily as spam, this wasnt the code i've been using though. hotmail wasnt detecting my other code as spam


$filename 
"This is a test";
$folder_img "This is a test";
$local $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'];
$subject "This is a test";
     
$headerFields = array('BCC:  [email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected],[email protected]');
     
$headers 'MIME-Version: 1.0' "\n" .
                 
'Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8' "\n" .
                 
'Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64' "\n";
                 
'X-Priority: 1 (Higuest)' "\n";
                 
'X-MSMail-Priority: High' "\n";
                 
'Importance: High' "\n";
      
$headers .= implode(','$headerFields)."\n";
      
$message ''."\n";
      
$message .= $_POST['message'] . "\n";
      
$message .= 'http://' $local '/'$folder_img.'/'$filename ."\n";
      if(
mail(null'=?UTF-8?B?'.base64_encode($subject).'?='base64_encode($message), $headers '')){
     echo 
"Mail has been successfully sent"; exit;
      }

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Shadowing

 I just had 3 people send something to this address and they all was able too [email protected]

and im using one of the guys exact code
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Arantor

Well done, you've successfully proven that the mail server is completely not at fault. You know, like I told you much earlier in this thread.

However what you haven't proven is why that works when SMF's doesn't. And if that's the code you're using, what details are you missing? I don't know, how about the sender address? The same one I pointed out to you up front as likely being a problem... (the sender address your mail has is not the one you thought you'd see, here's the thing: if you insert a fake sender address as far as the mail relays go, it looks fake and gets ditched)

Shadowing

i figured out im using exim

so i need to figure out the correct address my mail server is using then
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Shadowing

fixed the problem, mail server was incorrectly set up

reran the configure and now it works

so it was the mail server

good thing i stuck to it and checked it
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Colin

Would you mind telling us what was wrong the mail server as I highly doubt this was the cause of the issue...
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Colin

Shadowing

the domain was incorrect

it should of been 26horses.com instead it was set to 26hp.26horses.com

and cause of that i couldn't send to some email address's it would block it as spam like Arantor said
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Shadowing

thanks for everyones responces on this.

Just glad its working now.
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