Re: I get this: ï»¿ on my SMF Forum. Why?

ModelBoatMayhem · January 14, 2013, 01:15:28 PM

I'm getting the same ï»¿ top left of the Forum...

Should I be worried?
Where do I start looking to fix it?

SMF 2.03

Arantor · January 14, 2013, 01:17:14 PM

Download all the PHP files in your site (except Subs-Charset.php), open them in a decent text editor like Notepad++ (not Notepad) and then tell it to convert to UTF-8 Without BOM.

ModelBoatMayhem · January 14, 2013, 01:27:07 PM

Does it matter if my Forum isn't UTF-8?

Arantor · January 14, 2013, 01:28:59 PM

Nope. The code files themselves have UTF-8 encoding, and that's confusing things.

HunterP · January 14, 2013, 01:39:18 PM

Quote from: Arantor on January 14, 2013, 01:17:14 PM
Download all the PHP files in your site (except Subs-Charset.php), open them in a decent text editor like Notepad++ (not Notepad) and then tell it to convert to UTF-8 Without BOM.

It could also be the CSS.

Arantor · January 14, 2013, 01:40:27 PM

Not when it's appearing in the main page it couldn't.

ModelBoatMayhem · January 14, 2013, 01:55:00 PM

Quote from: Arantor on January 14, 2013, 01:17:14 PM
Download all the PHP files in your site (except Subs-Charset.php), open them in a decent text editor like Notepad++ (not Notepad) and then tell it to convert to UTF-8 Without BOM.

OK, it's snowing here (England) so I'll try that tomorrow.
( About how many files should I be looking for? )

Arantor · January 14, 2013, 01:57:43 PM

(I'm in England, I've been out in both the snow and rain today)

Everything in Sources (about 100 files in SMF 2.0 IIRC, do not edit Subs-Charset.php!) and any in your Themes/ folders, but can't remember how many that is.

MrPhil · January 14, 2013, 03:02:44 PM

Someone used an idiot editor on one or more files that "helpfully" added a Byte Order Mark (BOM, those three funny characters) to the very beginning of one or more files, because it understood the files to be UTF-8. The BOM will not be visible when seen with the PC or page in UTF-8 mode (you need to switch to a single byte encoding, such as Latin-1, to see it). In either case, it will cause a "headers not sent" PHP error if it shows up too early. In single-byte encoding, the BOM itself will be visible at the top of the page.

Most UTF-8 capable editors can be told to explicitly save files without a BOM. Many Microsoft editors will automatically add a BOM, so be careful. Or, you can edit in single-byte encoding mode (e.g., Latin-1), where you'll be able to see and erase the BOM characters, then save the file. Be careful in the process that you don't add leading blanks or lines, or trailing blanks or lines to the file.

ModelBoatMayhem · January 15, 2013, 06:00:12 AM

Hi Mr Phil.

Thanks for you help... again!

I've just had a quick look at this and tested the files in the root dir. index.php, settings.php, etc.

I opened the file in Notepad ++ (edit)
[Tool bar] Encoding > Encode UTF-8 Without BOM

same with:

[Tool bar] Encoding > Convert UTF-8 Without BOM

it doesn't register any changes to the file that need to be saved and allows me to close the files without saving them - is this correct ?

Storman™ · January 15, 2013, 06:11:55 AM

QuoteI opened the file in Notepad
[Tool bar] Encoding > Encode UTF-8 Without BOM

Do you mean Notepad++ ?

"Notepad" and "Notepad++" are completely different applications. Make sure you use the latter.

ModelBoatMayhem · January 15, 2013, 06:20:08 AM

Sorry, Notepad++

ModelBoatMayhem · January 15, 2013, 06:55:26 AM

Also, 2 other things:

1. I've checked about a dozen files and they all end with ?>

2. Doing a 'View Page Source' shows:

Quote

ï»¿<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><head>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://www.mysite.co.uk/forum/Themes/core/css/index.css?fin20" />
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.mysite.co.uk/forum/Themes/default/scripts/script.js?fin20"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.mysite.co.uk/forum/Themes/core/scripts/theme.js?fin20"></script>

Kays · January 15, 2013, 08:24:20 AM

The fie to look in is Display.template.php and the following line seems to case some editors to save that file as UTF-8.

Code Select


		// Show "ï¿½ Last Edit: Time by Person ï¿½" if this post was edited.

For a start, ensure that file is encoded as ANSI and not UTF-8.

You can also try either removing the "ï¿½", or replacing it with a standard character such as a question mark. "?"

MrPhil · January 15, 2013, 08:54:27 AM

Isn't there an SMF utility (tool) floating around somewhere that looks for leading/trailing whitespace as well as BOMs, and fixes them?

Try http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=329069.0

Kays · January 15, 2013, 09:30:19 AM

Yep, but it doesn't repair them by the looks of it.

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/File_check.php_-_What_is_it_and_what_does_it_do

ModelBoatMayhem · January 15, 2013, 10:03:28 AM

OK, I've run File_check.php and got this....

/forum/attachments/131804.php
File does not begin with <?php
File does not end with ?>

/forum/index_old.php
File does not begin with <?php
File does not end with ?>

/forum/Sources/StopSpammer.php
File does not end with ?>

/forum/temp/faulty tables-files/main_data/messages.php
File does not begin with <?php
File does not end with ?>

/forum/Themes/core/Display.template.php
UTF-8 BOM found

/forum/Themes/default/Display.template.php
UTF-8 BOM found

Kays · January 15, 2013, 10:21:39 AM

You probably can ignore all but the last two items.

Download Display.template.php, open it Notepad++ and change the encoding to ANSI. Also edit that line I suggested in my other post as it does force Notepad++ to open it as UTF-8. Although it's without BOM, that file should be saved as ANSI.

ModelBoatMayhem · January 15, 2013, 12:36:36 PM

Display.template.php now saved as ANSI and uploaded.

This is what I found in the files....

Core

Quote
// Show "« Last Edit: Time by Person »" if this post was edited.
if ($settings['show_modify'] && !empty($message['modified']['name']))
echo '
« <em>', $txt['last_edit'], ': ', $message['modified']['time'], ' ', $txt['by'], ' ', $message['modified']['name'], '</em> »';

Default

Quote// Show "ï¿½ Last Edit: Time by Person ï¿½" if this post was edited.
if ($settings['show_modify'] && !empty($message['modified']['name']))
echo '
« <em>', $txt['last_edit'], ': ', $message['modified']['time'], ' ', $txt['by'], ' ', $message['modified']['name'], '</em> »';

echo '
</div>
<div class="smalltext reportlinks">';

Kays · January 15, 2013, 12:58:56 PM

Since the topic you jumped on is rather old, I split this off from that topic.

And since it looks like that took care of your problem I'll mark this as solved.

ModelBoatMayhem · January 15, 2013, 05:26:20 PM

QuoteDownload Display.template.php, open it Notepad++ and change the encoding to ANSI. Also edit that line I suggested in my other post as it does force Notepad++ to open it as UTF-8. Although it's without BOM, that file should be saved as ANSI.

Well that seems to have fixed it for me!
Many thanks chaps, 1st round is on me.

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