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Offline Daktyl198

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Default PM layout
« on: March 25, 2013, 02:02:16 AM »
I think that the default layout (and maybe even the only layout for the sake of simplicity and code-cleanup) for the private messaging system in 2.1+ should be "as a conversation". It keeps the messages MUCH more organized and easier to keep track of.
The conversation with the newest reply should always go at the top...

Also, there should be a reply box at the end of the conversation page so that the user doesn't have to load an entirely new page just to reply to the conversation.

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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 02:10:36 AM »
+1 to both suggestions
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 04:26:26 AM »
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I think that the default layout ... for the private messaging system in 2.1+ should be "as a conversation". It keeps the messages MUCH more organized and easier to keep track of.
How can you say that? The layout is very much a subjective matter which is why the choice is available; I prefer "one at a time", as it happens.

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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 07:21:03 AM »
I can't stand the conversation view...

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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 07:22:24 AM »
Me, neither.

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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 09:03:12 AM »
Out of curiosity: why?


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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 10:56:25 AM »
Don't forget conversation view is no real use without the sent messages being saved... which by default, they are not.
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 12:07:36 PM »
There's nothing wrong with the current default PM system in my opinion.

Assuming conversation view is akin to that which is used by certain webmail providers, I find that difficult to follow, and would not like to see it implemented by default. 
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2013, 12:16:41 PM »
It's available in the core and has been for years... but right now 'all at once' is the default, which is even worse, IMNSHO.
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2013, 12:42:07 PM »
A list of all your messages in order whereby you click to read each one seems like the simplest, and most logical, way to handle PMs by default.  What am I missing?
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2013, 12:43:24 PM »
Tying a sequence of messages together. Very often there will be back-and-forth between people, and having that entire sequence put together is actually advantageous.
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2013, 12:46:06 PM »
I just find that unnecessary.  It's easy to keep track of replies, and conversations, for me at least, without having to link them together.  By all means have it as a mod, I'm sure someone has already made one anyway, but as default, I just don't think that it's warranted.
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2013, 12:48:12 PM »
I will say it again, then. It is a feature of SMF and has been for years.
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 12:50:32 PM »
I was preparing a question, but you already answered, so I'll just post a comment.

I find difficult to follow any kind of PM discussion that doesn't use conversation mode: all the PM staked in a line with no connection whatsoever, if I receive a PM related to something "we" were discussing months ago I would have to dig into the inbox looking for the previous PM and my PMs are instead in the outbox, so I have no way to follow the flow of the full discussion, but I have to guess what I answered unless the one I was discussing with quoted my entire PM or at least a good portion of it, etc.

I find conversation mode the most effective and any other way rather confusing...

ETA: TBH, change the default way was one of he things I was considering for 2.1 (including save own PMs by default).


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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2013, 12:54:24 PM »
I will say it again, then. It is a feature of SMF and has been for years.

So it is, you're correct.  When you said core, I thought that you meant SMF Core, rather than SMF 2.0 for some reason.

In that case, the OP's question seems relatively redundant to me.

I was preparing a question, but you already answered, so I'll just post a comment.

I find difficult to follow any kind of PM discussion that doesn't use conversation mode: all the PM staked in a line with no connection whatsoever, if I receive a PM related to something "we" were discussing months ago I would have to dig into the inbox looking for the previous PM and my PMs are instead in the outbox, so I have no way to follow the flow of the full discussion, but I have to guess what I answered unless the one I was discussing with quoted my entire PM or at least a good portion of it, etc.

I find conversation mode the most effective and any other way rather confusing...

ETA: TBH, change the default way was one of he things I was considering for 2.1 (including save own PMs by default).

I wouldn't mind PMs being saved by default, and having to uncheck the label to change it.

As for the rest, I'll blame your preference on conversation on your Italian nationality :P ;).
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2013, 12:58:41 PM »
FWIW, in Wedge I just saved them anyway. There's none of this 'save to outbox by default' or changeable behaviour, it just saves them all the time regardless, and there's no option. I did also make the default 'one at a time' rather than 'all at once' but I keep meaning to overhaul it not to show PMs unless you've actually selected one.
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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2013, 01:08:27 PM »
Yeah, I was considering that too: list of PMs as default (a la gmail) and then click on one => brings to the conversation. That would allow to keep the first conversation unread. :P


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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2013, 03:40:16 PM »
Gotta say that conversaton mode totally effin rocks, and in fact I'd go so far as to say it's the only feature in 2.0.x that I think is a big advantage over 1.1.x. The rest I can take or leave, but I love conversation mode for PM's.

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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2013, 06:11:28 PM »
If you don't make conversation mode default in 2.1, could you at least add an option to choose the default PM layout for the entire forum? I know for a fact that 95% of my users would rather use the conversation layout, but they don't snoop around and so don't know how to change it (or for some, that it even exists).

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Re: Default PM layout
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2013, 08:21:25 PM »
Dude, check PM settings. Not hard to see the tab unless you're blind!