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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #60 on: July 05, 2015, 01:04:41 PM »
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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #61 on: July 05, 2015, 01:17:37 PM »
Well, excuse me, for asking in the topic for the mod, about if it is needed.
I really expected a little better of a reply, than that. I guess it's time to test a feature here in SMF. The Ignore User list.
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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #62 on: July 05, 2015, 01:20:46 PM »
I can honestly say, I've never before seen anyone post in a mod support thread asking if they need the mod  ::)

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2015, 01:41:15 PM »
Well, if you read the posts before, that is why I had asked.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2015, 01:55:45 AM »
To clarify:
In the UK and the EU you "should" have this.
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"All websites owned in the EU or targeted towards EU citizens, are now expected to comply with the law."

But.............. do you really think a non-commercial website is going to be reported to the ICO for not having it?
What does the ICO then do?  They write to you.  You then 'comply' and avoid any further action.

Do you really think the EU is really going to hound forum admins all over the world for not having this on their forum.
Surely they are more worried about lending Greece another 89bn euros and whether they will be getting anything back lol!

How about someone do a Freedom of Information request and find out just how many UK websites have had action taken against them for not having a cookie widget warning.  My guess is not one in four years!
A recent sweep in the EU found that, out of 478 "popular websites" (out of the whole EU!) 26% do not comply at all!
http://www.truste.com/blog/2015/02/27/websites-not-compliance-cookie-directive-could-face-fines/

Do you really think they will be bothering with an individual's forum?
This is a good Mod and does what it should but adds nothing to a forum other than compliance to the EU rule.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2015, 02:17:05 AM »
OK so the EU cant police everyone's websites but it would appear they have asked Google to do it which of course they can!
After 30 September 2015, if you have Google Adsense ads on your website or forum or blog or any website for that matter, you must now  use an "EU user consent" policy.

Presumably, if you don't Google will delete your Adsense account, complete with any earnings you may have accrued on 1 October!

So if you want to keep the "ad cents" you get paid (sometimes) after Google authenticates the clicks and deducts up to 30%, you better use this Mod on your Forum in the EU.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2015, 03:38:38 AM »
But does this Mod do what Google demands?
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EU user consent policy

When using Google products that incorporate this policy, certain disclosures must be given to and consents obtained from end users in the European Union.

For end users in the European Union:

You must use commercially reasonable efforts to disclose clearly, and obtain consent to, any data collection, sharing and usage that takes place on any site, app, email publication or other property as a consequence of your use of Google products; and
You must use commercially reasonable efforts to ensure that an end user is provided with clear and comprehensive information about, and consents to, the storing and accessing of cookies or other information on the end user’s device where such activity occurs in connection with a product to which this policy applies.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2015, 05:18:41 AM »
You habe to supress the output of Google ADS until the Cookie storage is accepted.
That's I think is what Google mean ...

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2015, 06:51:28 AM »
do note: that policy has nothing to do with the SITE and is solely to do with the use of google products on a site (as Feline points out)

So - once again - there is no need to do anything for US, etc sites, unless your use of Google products exposes google product cookies to the user. (but this still has nothing at all to do with the forum cookie etc)

And no... this mod would NOT cover the google product notification, since this mod does not prevent anything from showing and does not link to your google adsense or any other feature
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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #69 on: July 28, 2015, 01:57:49 PM »
This mod does not suppress any cookie. That's why there is a description for the mod, it's a cookie notice to the users.
Any member of a forum that have rights to install a mod, have the required knowledge and they are responsible for their site.
This mod and a cookie policy page, can legally cover your forum about the use of cookies. Google says, google does.

If you are so afraid of the law, maybe you have a reason, please DON'T use this mod or even better don't use smf.
If this mod does not do what you wanna do on your forum, please DON'T use this mod.

PLEASE, do not spam the support thread of this mod.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2015, 07:58:40 PM »
Lesenswert .. read this ..

http://www.cookiechoices.org/

Wird Zeit, das SMF das mal berücksichtigt. Immerhin gibt es viele User aus der EU die SMF einsetzen ...

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2015, 01:56:54 AM »
This mod does not suppress any cookie. That's why there is a description for the mod, it's a cookie notice to the users.
Any member of a forum that have rights to install a mod, have the required knowledge and they are responsible for their site.
This mod and a cookie policy page, can legally cover your forum about the use of cookies. Google says, google does.

If you are so afraid of the law, maybe you have a reason, please DON'T use this mod or even better don't use smf.
If this mod does not do what you wanna do on your forum, please DON'T use this mod.

PLEASE, do not spam the support thread of this mod.

Not sure who this was aimed at but it should NOT have been at me!

I am not spamming, the EU Cookie Law needs and is worthy of discussion.
If the Mod doesn't comply then there is no point. If as I think it does, then all I am saying to SMF forum Admins in the EU, if you want to keep your Google ad cents account after 30 September 2015 you need something that complies with Google policies.

This issues is regarding the Google "policy" and cookies used by Google for analytics and adsense.
NOT any cookies the SMF forum users and whether these are relevant to the EU Cookie Law.

Why are some people so unnecessarily aggressive and defensive on this forum?

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2015, 01:52:07 PM »
I'm install this mod and enable it but nothing happening. There is no show any popup with cookie info.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #73 on: September 15, 2015, 01:52:23 AM »
OK its all been up and working for a month or so but......................
When tested using http://trial.sitebeam.net/reports/view/?siteId=85654&testRequestId=129222

I get the following:-
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This site does not appear to be compliant with the Cookie Law
Cookies were set by the website and no recognised cookie solution was found. You should check the website manually to see if it clearly informs users about the cookies that are set.

Does this mean it will fail Google at the end of this month?

Perhaps this Mod needs an update?

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2015, 08:38:47 AM »
As I understand it, the mod warns about the usage of cookies, it doesn't prevent cookies from being deployed until the user accepts (which is what the cookie law states)
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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #75 on: September 16, 2015, 10:55:19 AM »
Exactly! And the tools Google will probably use wont even detect that!
It's all a bloody nuisance for everyone!
Website owners and users alike.
Perhaps we (UK) can get out of the EU in 2017 then we all wont have to bother with this rubbish!

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2015, 12:45:40 PM »
The mod is not working for me. The installation is done but after redirection it gave error 404 also when I go to the forum it shows many source characters at the top. Please help.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2015, 12:55:33 PM »
The mod is not working for me. The installation is done but after redirection it gave error 404 also when I go to the forum it shows many source characters at the top. Please help.

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2017, 07:03:27 AM »
Please HELP ME :(

I just learned about this crappy law and although I am based in Australia, my website is targeting Italians and the Italian Privacy Regulator stated that even sites from outside the EU must comply with the law  :-X

They specifically stated that a link to the privacy and cookie policy must exist at the bottom of EACH page so how do I add the link in the bottom of my SMF????

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Re: EU Cookie
« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2017, 07:26:06 AM »
Well, they are actually exceeding their authority. If your business and your servers are outside of the EU, they can't enforce the EU cookie law. They really can't.

However, if you want to do it, you would add a link in index.template.php

search for $forum_copyright and you can put your link somewhere near that to have it in the footer.
(please note, templates are a combination of html and php...  you can't just put random html into the code  it has to be properly placed within an echo statement)
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