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is it safe to delete packages backups?

Started by snadge, December 08, 2013, 05:48:51 AM

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snadge

packages backup seems to be using most of my total forum space usage... is it safe to delete these or not?



thanks

kat

It is. But, it might be a good idea to keep them safe, somewhere, in case you need 'em, later.

ftab4me

Quote from: snadge on December 08, 2013, 05:48:51 AM
packages backup seems to be using most of my total forum space usage... is it safe to delete these or not?



thanks

That will give you back a very small amount of memory. Who is your host and  how much memory do they allocate you for both files and database.

Sounds like you mat want to consider a new host.

Illori

this has nothing to do with memory, but server hd space instead.

kat

In the context that ftab4me is talking, he's not totally wrong. Quite a lot of people refer to disk space as memory, nowadays.

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inimr/computer-basics-tutorial/ramvsdiskspacehtm.htm

Kindred

December 09, 2013, 11:01:27 AM #5 Last Edit: December 09, 2013, 11:19:13 AM by Kindred
they might refer to it like that, but they would be wrong....

This is not a case of linguistic drift - the words have very specific meanings in the case of tehcnology, and if we do not correct people to use the correct word, then they will continue to refer to things incorrectly, thus confusing matters.
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I agree with Kindred on this.
There is a very big difference between memory and disk space.

kat

Oh, of course. Just as the term "Forums" is, technically, totally wrong.

People will call things whatever they like. A great number of people call hard disk space "Memory".

But, some would argue that disk space is  RAM, which is Random Access Memory, just as a USB stick is known as a "Memory stick".

So, whilst not being entirely correct, he's not wrong, either.

Arantor

QuoteOh, of course. Just as the term "Forums" is, technically, totally wrong.

A meeting or medium where ideas can be discussed... in plural. Not seeing the 'wrongness' of this one ;)

QuotePeople will call things whatever they like. A great number of people call hard disk space "Memory".

Which frustrates me no end when trying to help people because they conflate the two and don't know which I'm referring to >_<

Quotejust as a USB stick is known as a "Memory stick".

Another term I abhor.  Thumb-drive, on the other hand, is quite acceptable.
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Kindred

ah, but he IS wrong.
(and disks do not use RAM...)

Just because some people misuse a term does not make the misuse correct. :P

(and yes, thumb drive or stick drive...   I have never actually heard it called a memory stick.
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kat

Well, it was dem Yanks wot changed "Fora" to "Forums".

RAM memory is randomly accessed, which is exactly what a hard disk does.

Now, when I sat my A+/N+ course, we were told that RAM is volatile. When you turn the power off, it gets wiped clean. But, we were also told that, as with "Forums", things become acceptable with use (Again, mainly by the Amercians, oddly enough), as it were, and, even back then, the term was OK. We wouldn't fail the exam, if we called that kind of thing RAM, which is memory.

Of course, come the exam, we made damned sure we didn't. ;)

Kindred

ummm... but no.   Disks are not RAM. They are not randomly accessed.

And there is NV RAM and V RAM (neither of which is a disk drive)
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kat

As I said, I totally agree. But, common-usage is beating both of us, unfortunately.

Chalky

Oops, I've called it a "memory stick" for years even though I know it's a misnomer.  I think I started off calling it a "flash drive" or "usb stick" around the turn of the century.  My favourite name for it is a "wand" but too few people know what I'm talking about to actually call it that.

kat

I guess the term's become used, in that way, because HHDs, sticks and the like remember things and people equate remembering with memory.

I'm sure my own memory's volatile RAM...

Arantor

It remembers what you tell it to remember, therefore memory is not entirely wrong :P

(Ninja'd!)

Still it could be what my mother calls them, which is 'fizzy stick', though I have no idea *why*.

It isn't helped by the fact that hard drives can now have solid-state components, aka flash memory (ack) or even be totally just SSDs...
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ftab4me

I certainly did not mean to start a big debate here when I used the generic term memory to ask about disk space made available from his host for his files and database. If the OP is worried about the small amount of memory or disk space if you prefer that he could recover, it would appear he is very limited and might want to think about changing hosts if true.

BTW: We always called USB Memory Sticks as Jump Drives!

Hopefully we will hear back from the OP as I am interested in hearing who his host is and how much disk space and thus memory they allocated to him.

kat

Oh, you know what these pedants are like... ;)

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