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Quick edit displayed name in post

Started by player.samp, April 15, 2014, 09:56:13 AM

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player.samp

Hello.


I suggest adding a feature of quick editing a displayed name of a user, in post.

There is a feature on SMF for quick edit, and you have a button that you can click and change the subject + the content of a post.

So I suggest adding the same button near someone's name, and then everyone who has the permission to edit the account settings, will be able to see this button and use it and change someone's name.

Kindred

no....   just no.

Sorry - but users should not be changing their name on a per post basis.
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Antes

Quote from: Kindred on April 15, 2014, 10:02:20 AM
no....   just no.

Sorry - but users should not be changing their name on a per post basis.

I think there is a bit misunderstanding here, he means he want to quick edit username like we have quick edit post thing. Still a mod idea. I don't see general usability.

player.samp

Quote from: Antes on April 18, 2014, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: Kindred on April 15, 2014, 10:02:20 AM
no....   just no.

Sorry - but users should not be changing their name on a per post basis.

I think there is a bit misunderstanding here, he means he want to quick edit username like we have quick edit post thing. Still a mod idea. I don't see general usability.

Why someone wouldn't want this feature? I am sure that there are many forums that do not use all the core features, and I see no reason how it can be useless. In my opinion, if the quick edit feature exist, this feature should also exist.

I would really like to understand why it shouldn't be added for everybody, and to hear which reasons can cause someone not to want to use it (it just makes things shorter), so I can understand why I am wrong, if I am.

Antes

Wait I didn't say its useless, i said it has no general usability.

Kindred

I understood what he meant, antes... :p

I stand by my statement though...   Users should not be allowed to change their username on a post by post basis...   That defeats the very basic purpose of a forum, which is clear communication
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Irisado

Quote from: player.samp on April 18, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
I would really like to understand why it shouldn't be added for everybody, and to hear which reasons can cause someone not to want to use it (it just makes things shorter), so I can understand why I am wrong, if I am.

In addition to Kindred's point, forum members changing their names constantly also makes moderating a nightmare.  Users are meant to have an identity on a forum which others and the forum's moderators can keep track of.  This doesn't meant that they can't ever change their username, but to so as often as would be potentially possible here seems counterproductive to me.
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Steve

I can guarantee you that if a mod or admin (or anybody for that matter) arbitrarily changed my name on a post I wouldn't be a member long after that. Doesn't make sense.
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player.samp

Quote from: Irisado on April 19, 2014, 11:12:56 AM
Quote from: player.samp on April 18, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
I would really like to understand why it shouldn't be added for everybody, and to hear which reasons can cause someone not to want to use it (it just makes things shorter), so I can understand why I am wrong, if I am.

In addition to Kindred's point, forum members changing their names constantly also makes moderating a nightmare.  Users are meant to have an identity on a forum which others and the forum's moderators can keep track of.  This doesn't meant that they can't ever change their username, but to so as often as would be potentially possible here seems counterproductive to me.

There is an option to not let users change their displayed name, and there is a package which sets which membergroup can change displayed names.




Quote from: Nuttysman on April 19, 2014, 10:08:28 PM
I can guarantee you that if a mod or admin (or anybody for that matter) arbitrarily changed my name on a post I wouldn't be a member long after that. Doesn't make sense.

O_o

When an admin changes someone's displayed name, he is not supposed to know how he changed it anyway, so I don't really get your point...

Kindred

however - with the current system, if a user changes hi display name ---  it gets changed everywhere it is used.

What you are talking about is allowing a user to change his name in one location, but not affect all the other places... and THAT is what I am saying is the problem.
Please do not PM, IM or Email me with support questions.  You will get better and faster responses in the support boards.  Thank you.

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player.samp

Quote from: Kindred on April 21, 2014, 07:18:31 AM
however - with the current system, if a user changes hi display name ---  it gets changed everywhere it is used.

What you are talking about is allowing a user to change his name in one location, but not affect all the other places... and THAT is what I am saying is the problem.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, if I wasn't, sorry...
But when I was thinking about this feature and suggested it, I never meant changing someone's displayed name in one location...

I meant, being able to edit someone's displayed name in a post, which will effect just like when you change someone's displayed name in the account related settings.

Just faster way to change displayed names. And the option in the account related settings can be changed, in case the one who change someone's profile, wants to change one more things there including the forum displayed name.

Kindred

egads no... that's even worse.

When a user changes his displayed name in profile settings, there is a whole bunch of back end stuff to be done to clean up...   having that done "on the fly" is a disaster waiting to happen.
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emanuele

ehm... I'm not sure what you are talking about Kindred.
Of course there is "stuff" to do, but do it in one page or in another doesn't make much difference. The fact that SMF is designed to do ajax calls only "where is expected" and doesn't separate the "do the work" from the "choose how to do a work" kind of functions is another problem altogether, but "in theory" it's possible to do anything from anywhere.
You have quick moderation, quick edit, etc. They all do stuff that "in theory" should be done somewhere else, but with that tools you do it from Display or MessageIndex (I'm pretty sure you know you can change a topic's subject from MessageIndex). The same is for player.samp's request.
TBH I would like to be able to edit even the signature without having to go to the profile, and I'll add that to a certain codebase sooner or later. :P


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