Display search keyword in URL

[MESWEB]

on my forum

i tried to search this word >>>> Help <<<

search url comes up as

http://www.sitename.com/index.php?action=search2

i would like it to appear as

http://www.sitename.com/index.php?action=search2;search=Help

[kat]

Where? What? Why?

[MESWEB]

Why? Coz I want to know what users searching on my forum. How I to know what users typing in "search field"?

[kat]

How will changing the URL do that, out of curiosity?

That aside, the SMF search function's not terribly good. A lot of people use Google's Site Search, instead.

[MESWEB]

That is needed an option because sometimes the user is looking at my side and not on google. On simplemachines.org website, there is an option where

?action=search2;search=any+words

. So question is - How to do it on my website? If this is secret don't tell me and keep to Yourself. Thanks.

[Illori]

that is due to a mod here with the search on each page. the default search does not have this feature and in the past this has been a cause for attacks on the server.

[mashby]

Illori, do you know which mod it is?

[MESWEB]

the default search does not have this feature and in the past this has been a cause for attacks on the server.

So why simplemachines.org using

?action=search2;search=

if this " has been a cause for attacks on the server"? I don't understand Your answer. It's no logic, if really this have been the cause of the attacks then simplemachines.org did not use this option to. But simple is using this.

[Illori]

Illori, do you know which mod it is?

the version we use is not available to the public.

[Adrek]

MESWEB, you know that this will not log any keywords that your users are searching on your forum?

[MESWEB]

Illori, do you know which mod it is?

the version we use is not available to the public.

I know it. Just Secret and no one can using this parameters.

MESWEB, you know that this will not log any keywords that your users are searching on your forum?

Yes I know it but I have other option to see this
Any way MyBB have mod to save searched words in database.

[MESWEB]

Illori, do you know which mod it is?

Search Focus Dropdown mod which changes things.

[Illori]

that is not the exact same mod we use here.

[MESWEB]

I found a clue. If You try this:

yoursite.com/index.php?action=search2;search=(something)

Replace (something) any words
It's works!

[MESWEB]

that is not the exact same mod we use here.

So which one?

[Illori]

Illori, do you know which mod it is?

the version we use is not available to the public.

[Kindred]

If you tracked this crap in the database, your database would quickly exceed any limits that your host allows.   Seriously, that is a pointless thing to track, IMO... And really a waste if space to track in your database.

[mashby]

I agree with that...no need to store that crap in the database. So, why does SMF here have that in the URL string? I can see it being useful in something like Google Analytics where you can setup looking for search="CRAP".

[Arantor]

SMF has it here in the URL due to the way the mod passes things to the search handler.

Passing everything via the URL itself is actually a terribly bad idea if, say, people want to search individual boards (or use the advanced search for all boards) because then you'd have the URL full of brd[]=1;brd[]=2;brd[]=3;brd[]=4 etc entries and that's why it's compressed into the URL the way it is because on some sites the list would be too long for IE to handle (as IE only used to allow 2083 characters for a URL)

Seeing what people are searching for on the site search tends to be less-than-helpful, especially when you consider that one person is likely to perform several searches if their first one doesn't yield anything useful, so you're not just cross-referencing what people are searching but also who and when, which suddenly changes the game on all kinds of levels (not least privacy-reaching ones)

[MESWEB]

Seeing what people are searching for on the site search tends to be less-than-helpful, especially when you consider that one person is likely to perform several searches if their first one doesn't yield anything useful, so you're not just cross-referencing what people are searching but also who and when, which suddenly changes the game on all kinds of levels (not least privacy-reaching ones)

So why official SMF site watching what people are searching? It is not fair. If I can not use "search =" why you can? This is probably incompatible with the privacy policy.

[Arantor]

SMF official site isn't watching it. It's a by-product of how the search dropdown works, not an intentional thing.

Here's a hint of why this doesn't work, do a search on something common. Now go to page 2 and look at the URL you get. Something along the lines of index.php?action=search2;params=eJwtzDEOgCAMheG7uLg6eR0CpQYNUFNQY9LD2xq2_33D8_H2FTDKLItMEthqtWyJHgdUzowdFY2ucCB0RzW_Q4i7FmPG_2eQizsrR2xggp4h6W5l-wClfCxC;start=20

It just doesn't work. And that's from this site.

[Kindred]

we are not "watching"

It is simply a side effect of something we did to enhance search on this site...

[MESWEB]

SMF official site isn't watching it. It's a by-product of how the search dropdown works, not an intentional thing.

Here's a hint of why this doesn't work, do a search on something common. Now go to page 2 and look at the URL you get. Something along the lines of index.php?action=search2;params=eJwtzDEOgCAMheG7uLg6eR0CpQYNUFNQY9LD2xq2_33D8_H2FTDKLItMEthqtWyJHgdUzowdFY2ucCB0RzW_Q4i7FmPG_2eQizsrR2xggp4h6W5l-wClfCxC;start=20

It just doesn't work. And that's from this site.

I don't want see values from second searching page. I WANT SEE WORDS TYPING TO SEARCHING FIELD - just only this, no more. You are don't understand something or You are not smart?

we are not "watching"

Yeah sure 
PIWIK + "search="(value) = IP + time + URL search with words. Don't tell me is this not true.

[Arantor]

It's not true. SMF doesn't use Piwik analysis here. In any case, the whole nature of the way search works means trying to analyse it is not useful as we tried to tell you.

[MESWEB]

PIWIK is not only one Analytics app there is more and more like Google Analytics, WebAlizer, Serwer Logs and other. If something is not useful then it is not used. So if the parameter "search=" is not useful then why is on official site SMF? Just turn off - because this is Interference with the right policies.

It's not true. SMF doesn't use Piwik analysis here.

Do You have any evidence to not "using" PIWIK or any Analytics? So I do not believe your words

[Adrek]

Kurde, nie rozumiesz tego, że to jest efekt uboczny modyfikacji działających na tej stronie? Są to modyfikacje napisane specjalnie dla forum simplemachines.org i nie mogą być publicznie dostępne. Nie szukaj dziury w całym...

[Arantor]

So if the parameter "search=" is not useful then why is on official site SMF? Just turn off - because this is Interference with the right policies.

Because as we have told you, it is simply a by product of the way the mod works. It is not nearly the big deal you make it out to be, especially since the search information if it isn't in the URL is sent in other ways that any analytics could pick up if they wanted to.

Do You have any evidence to not "using" PIWIK or any Analytics? So I do not believe your words

Aside from no references in the source to Piwik's tracker, the fact that I'm ex-dev team of SMF and know better than most people about what's going on in the source...? I don't especially appreciate being called a liar by someone who has no understanding of the subject at hand.

Of course I could get any of the project managers here to tell you the same thing and you wouldn't believe them either.

[MESWEB]

Kurde, nie rozumiesz tego, że to jest efekt uboczny modyfikacji działających na tej stronie? Są to modyfikacje napisane specjalnie dla forum simplemachines.org i nie mogą być publicznie dostępne. Nie szukaj dziury w całym...

I understand perfectly. I'm not looking for holes throughout. I just want to know why I'm spied and why I can't myself to spying? A side effect of the mod is the explanation of a child with school! It's like the question of a policeman - why do you use weapons? I answer: Because it is a side effect of a large amount of money.  . @ phantomm - better if You use English.

[Arantor]

You're not being spied upon, simple as that!

[MESWEB]

You're not being spied upon, simple as that!

As I said before, I do not believe your words.
This site is don't using https:// and this connection is not encrypted. NSA is watching me

[Arantor]

And you really think cloaking your search terms is going to make a difference? Hint: it's still passed through the form normally when you submit. It must still be going to the server.

SMF isn't spying on you, which is what I've been saying all along.

But if you don't believe me, who will you believe? Answer: no-one. Because no matter what evidence you're provided with, you're never going to believe it.

If you're bothered by being spied upon, why are you even here hassling people with your ill-informed opinions?

[Adrek]

[Kindred]

 Arantor has already explained the details and I, as project manager for the software and Vice President of the corporation have made a statement confirming that.   That is the truth. Plain and simple.


you can believe whatever you want...  But your believe does not make anything actually true... If just means that you are believing in something untrue.

[kat]

If you use the internet, you're being watched, whatever your government tells you.

SMF isn't watching you, at all, because, to put it in simple terms, we don't care!

Think about it... Why the Hell would we WANT to watch you?

[MESWEB]

Think about it... Why the Hell would we WANT to watch you?

Better if You ask me - Why the Hell would we don't publish mod which one creating searching words URL?

[Arantor]

Despite the fact that the mod is useless to most people because it explicitly ties into site architecture that most users don't have... that's why it isn't published.

I think it's hilarious that we've gone from you wanting to do this, to you complaining that we're doing this as though it's a bad thing. It's not a good thing or a bad thing, it's just a thing.

I suggest the moderators lock this thread, it's not going anywhere good.

[Kindred]

Agreed.  Asked, answered and beat into the ground...