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Offline davidhs

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I can not modify my posts
« on: May 18, 2015, 07:30:01 AM »
I updated my mods to SMF 2.0.10 but I can not edit my posts. i.e.
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=369595.0
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=372850.0

Edit: I can edit this post.

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2015, 07:34:25 AM »
there is a new policy that posts made can not be edited after 1 hour by the author. if you need it modified you can report it to the moderators and they can modify it for you.

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 07:42:09 AM »
there is a new policy that posts made can not be edited after 1 hour by the author. if you need it modified you can report it to the moderators and they can modify it for you.
:o But these are post of my mods... I need edit when I download a new update... Many work for moderators!

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2015, 07:43:36 AM »
the team is aware of that issue and i believe they are trying to add a fuction to the mod site to update the first post of the topics. it just takes time.

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2015, 07:52:40 AM »
:o But these are post of my mods... I need edit when I download a new update... Many work for moderators!

This is an unfortunate side effect of having to restrict post editing because of a minority of members abusing the modify function to bypass moderation decisions.  As Illori says, the Team is trying to find a way around this problem for those members, such as yourself, who need to edit posts to update details of their mods.

For the time being, please use the report to moderator button and explain in your report what you need to be changed in your post you are reporting, and a Team member will do it for you :).
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 12:29:06 AM »
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a minority of members abusing the modify function to bypass moderation decisions. 
Surely that situation could have been handled differently. A set of warnings or cooldown bans would have sufficed rather than disallowing edits. I advocate the removal of this policy. Punishing the entire community for the actions of a few....
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2015, 12:54:10 AM »
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a minority of members abusing the modify function to bypass moderation decisions. 
Surely that situation could have been handled differently. A set of warnings or cooldown bans would have sufficed rather than disallowing edits. I advocate the removal of this policy. Punishing the entire community for the actions of a few....
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 05:10:56 AM »
Surely that situation could have been handled differently. A set of warnings or cooldown bans would have sufficed rather than disallowing edits. I advocate the removal of this policy. Punishing the entire community for the actions of a few....

Had you been involved in having to clean up the mess caused by that minority, I feel that would think differently :).  Warnings and bans had previously been used to no long-term effect.

As Illori has stated above, a workaround was being looked at, so maybe someone with coding skills could have another look at it, and see what can be done ;).

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2015, 10:08:35 AM »
Well. If it ever was a problem you could also go from a backup and reload the old posts on a member basis.
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 10:10:59 AM »
vbgamer...   really?   given the size of our database and the servers we use (and the availability and time of our server team) do you really think that finding and restoring individual messages from gits who changed them is a good use of their time and effort?


and no....  warnings and cooldown bans are, unfortunately, too late in the game - the "damage" (as it were) would have already been done by that point
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 10:19:32 AM »
Sure why not. It is just one table and a quick join could get it done. How often does this occur. Worse case you get a list of members that cause this issue after they have been banned and go back and do the restore when time is free.
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 10:29:49 AM »
if the post was edited within hours of it being made, most likely there is no backup to restore that was made during that time anyway.

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2015, 10:36:16 AM »
But is that what we are trying to solve? I thought we were solving very old posts that were mass edited? A new post does not carry as much weight in terms of history/worth.
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2015, 10:38:08 AM »
it is a combination of both new users and new posts being edited and old users editing or deleting old posts.

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2015, 10:39:04 AM »
there are certain immature folks who posted one thing...  then, when they received a response, changed their original post - either to make themselves look better or to remove the context of the responses.

So yes...   the entire site is paying for the immaturity of a few people.

it may be reversed at some point or the mod site issue may be fixed. In the mean time, let's stop complaining about it and move on.
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2015, 06:29:33 PM »
At first I was thinking that the first post on MODs support topics were created automatically from the MOD site after the MOD were approved, then it updates automatically as the MOD creator update it on the MOD site.

This is how is supposed to be done for support topics, I think.
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2015, 09:11:48 PM »

As Illori has stated above, a workaround was being looked at, so maybe someone with coding skills could have another look at it, and see what can be done ;).

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2015, 11:01:11 AM »
At first I was thinking that the first post on MODs support topics were created automatically from the MOD site after the MOD were approved, then it updates automatically as the MOD creator update it on the MOD site.

This is how is supposed to be done for support topics, I think.
When you create a MOD, a topic is created but when you modify your MOD the topic not is updated.

This would be helpful in official support topic of MOD but in my case I have other support topic in Spanish board.



Perhaps can be add a field "Can be modify" to all post and moderators can set or not this field.

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2015, 09:07:20 PM »
They're currently working on a solution. :)
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2015, 11:07:29 AM »
The functionality for having the first post of the support topic updated when editing the MOD is now implemented.

Many thanks live627 and Sleepy for making it happen :)
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2015, 11:17:02 AM »
Does it change the subject line as well?
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2015, 11:19:15 AM »
Yes it does :)
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2015, 11:47:55 AM »
Based on the mod title I am guessing?
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2015, 12:01:00 PM »
Yup :)
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2015, 12:56:00 PM »
Awesome guys. I'm not a mod writer but thanks go to live and sleepy from me anyway. ;D
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2015, 03:26:20 PM »
Question: does sm.org have a max post limit? What will happen if you go beyond that in your mod description?

PS, thanks for getting this bit implemented, I feel kind of lucky that I waited until today to update my mod :)

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2015, 03:46:45 PM »
I see these problems.

1st - I have
- an official topic support in English (this will be updated when I update the mod) and
- other topic support in Spanish (this will not be updated, of course, and I will need send report to moderador for update this topic).

2nd - In mod page I attach example images and I do not write examples in description. In topics support I add complete examples with images.

3rd (minor) - In subject of topic support I write: mod name (support SMF versions). For example: my mod (SMF 2.0-2.0.10).

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2015, 04:07:51 PM »
1- nothing we can really do about that, so we'll continue the way it is....

2- the mod topic SHOULD match the mod description, plain and simple...  so, live with it and build your mod description in the same way you would the topic.

3- the mod support thread title SHOULD match the mod title.... so, live with it and put your version support in the mod description if you feel the need for that.

( in other words, yes, 1 is still an issue and we'll use the work around. 2 and 3 are actually now the way it should always have been anyway)
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2015, 04:29:06 PM »
1- nothing we can really do about that, so we'll continue the way it is....

Perhaps... Can be add to a mod page two (or more) fields?
1st field: Another support topic (topic ID).
2nd field: Description for these another support topic.
 ???

2- the mod topic SHOULD match the mod description, plain and simple...  so, live with it and build your mod description in the same way you would the topic.

3- the mod support thread title SHOULD match the mod title.... so, live with it and put your version support in the mod description if you feel the need for that.
Ok. :'(

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2015, 11:59:48 PM »
The functionality for having the first post of the support topic updated when editing the MOD is now implemented.

Many thanks live627 and Sleepy for making it happen :)
I just now updated a mod and the topic was also updated.

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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2015, 02:39:37 PM »
Does this work for theme site, too?
I just updated text on my theme page, but first post of theme topic does not show it.
It's rather important, as it explains why theme has been removed from theme site, until can fix issues found with it.

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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2015, 02:47:06 PM »
I think it doesn't, no...
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« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2015, 02:52:09 PM »
Then can someone with the powers that be, replace the red text on the main post in the thread for me, please?

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=519444.0

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[color=red][size=18pt]This theme will no longer be updated, due to SMF 2.1.[/size][/color]
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[color=red][size=18pt]This theme will no longer be updated, due to SMF 2.1.

Also, due to issues I have found within the theme, I have decided to remove it from theme site.
I will try to see if can get issues fixed so can get it back up.

Sorry for any inconveniences.[/size][/color]

Thank you.

I removed the theme from my site before, and just remembered to do it here... LOL
Hopefully I can get the thing fixed soon, but with family issues, not sure when... :(
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2017, 11:40:00 AM »
I see these problems.

I have
- an official topic support in English (this will be updated when I update the mod) and
- other topic support in Spanish (this will not be updated, of course, and I will need send report to moderador for update this topic).
nothing we can really do about that, so we'll continue the way it is....
Perhaps... Can be add to a mod page two (or more) fields?
1st field: Another support topic (topic ID).
2nd field: Description for these another support topic.
 ???
Two years with this problem. :( Is there any solution?

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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2017, 07:45:39 PM »
Nope
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Re: I can not modify my posts
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2017, 08:49:48 AM »
If any changes to the system are made, the Team will notify the community.  In the meantime, please keep doing what you are doing (i.e. sending moderation reports) and Team members can make the necessary edits for you :).  On that note, this topic can be left to rest now.
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