SMF default theme not Responsive Mobile-Friendly Mean loss web rank and traffic

[ahmadtrco]

Google announced in may 2015 that Google Will Punish You If You Don't Have A Mobile-Friendly web theme 

https://www.google.com/search?q=google+rank+low+webs+if+not+responsive&spell=1&sa=X&ei=NiNzVYzSD4PoUsPqgvgJ&ved=0CBoQvwUoAA

SMF not yet has it default theme as responsive  theme Mobile-Friendly

So SMF support urgently need to change its default theme as responsive  theme Mobile-Friendly

Did we need to leave SMF forever as if its not default theme as responsive  theme, Mobile-Friendly if we still use it  with out Mobile-Friendly default theme then it mean we are going to loss web rank and traffic in Google

So request you please urgently change SMF default theme to responsive  theme Mobile-Friendly

[Kindred]

First and foremost...   Since you are complaining about responsive, I have to assume that you are not actually using 2.1, so why did you post in the 2.1 support area?   2.1 has a responsive theme for default.

Second, you obviously did not bother to search, or even bother to READ, since we made an announcement a month ago regarding making 2.0.x's default theme (curve) more responsive... And there are about 6 other responsive themes available.

Third, you are incorrect about your interpretation of google's (albeit, stupid) behavior.  You only get penalized on mobile results, desktop result ranking remain the same, from what Google has claimed.


So, I have a request of you...  Would you please read the announcement threads and learn to use search?

[Illori]

i assume due to what you posted you are using SMF 2.0 and not SMF 2.1 that has a responsive default theme. take a look at http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535720.0

[Chas Large]

Criticising someone for NOT using 2.1 when the notice on the downloading page says:

Note: As this is in development, we do not recommend running SMF 2.1 on a production site.

Is a bit much IMO.

[Illori]

Criticising someone for NOT using 2.1 when the notice on the downloading page says:

Note: As this is in development, we do not recommend running SMF 2.1 on a production site.

Is a bit much IMO.

this topic was started in the 2.1 board hence the replies received, it was then moved to this board.

[Kindred]

Exactly... The post was originally made in the 2.1 board, but was fairly obviously not ...  And was also fairly obvious that the op didn't do a lick of research

[andrea0000]

Hello all 

To be honest, I'm too didn't find any Responsive Mobile-Friendly default theme.

What I have found is only  http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=4040  which still have some bugs and is beta status.

So where I can find an easy to install Responsive Mobile-Friendly theme for my forum that is working?

P.S. @Chas Large, I have visited your forum, you have a Responsive Mobile-Friendly theme. May I ask you how you make this?

Thank you for any help 

Andrea

[Kindred]

1- the responsive curve mod is the official release to make curve more-or-less responsive and it the best you are going to get for the 2.0.10 default theme at this time
2- there are several themes on our customization site and 4 themes by Bloc (I think they are available on the tinyportal site) which are responsive

[andrea0000]

Hello 

Thank you, but more (or) less responsive is not a 100% solution.

I don't know what is "tinyportal" and I don't use it. Just need a simple Responsive Mobile-Friendly theme that works with SMF.

I see that anyone, even hxxp:startpage.com [nonactive], hxxp:cnn.com [nonactive] and all other have updated the website to a Responsive Mobile-Friendly theme becuase of Google 

As long Google is the only search engine that people are using worldwide, we have to do what they want us to do.
If you like it or not, the Internet belongs to GOOGLE!

Thank you

[Kindred]

read: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535720.0

the responsive theme mod allows the curve theme to pass Google's tests.

Additionally, I never said that you had to use tinyportal. I said that Bloc has released 4 responsive themes which are available on the tinyportal.
Additionally, there are several responsive themes which have been submitted and are available on our theme site.

As for "more or less responsive". Yes...   because 2.0 Curve was built with tables, and, since 2.0.x is fully stable, a completely re-written theme will not be released with it. That is what 2.1 is for.


In other words, these complaints are pointless since we have ALREADY RELEASED an update which allows the default theme to pass Google's checks.
If you don't want to use it, then fine... that is your choice, but stop claiming that we don't have a responsive theme.

[andrea0000]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I read that people have some problems with the official release...?! 

[Kindred]

some people always have problems...


the main thing is - don't specify a width for your forum in the settings and it's all good. They are having issues because the 90% width that they have set breaks the responsiveness.

[Realinfo]

Sir there is need 100 percent solution mobile version of SMF, kindly help us, either release 2.1.1 or better version of responsive mod, thanks

[Illori]

Sir there is need 100 percent solution mobile version of SMF, kindly help us, either release 2.1.1 or better version of responsive mod, thanks

considering that 2.1 is still in beta, i really doubt at this point there will be a 2.1.1 release.

if you want a better mobile/responsive theme then look at others that are available.

[Kindred]

Sir there is need 100 percent solution mobile version of SMF

Why?

the responsive mod that we released will allow the curve theme to pass Google's test and thus inflict no penalty on the site from Google.

The responsive mod that we released will make the curve theme about as responsive as it is going to get, given the fact that the design is 5 years old and uses tables...   The only way to make it "better" would be to re-write the whole thing...   Which you are free to try to do, if you like. However, we would rather focus on getting 2.1 to a stable form than in trying to completely re-do something which is just going to get replaced.

And no...   we will **NOT** be releasing a completely new theme for 2.0.11. period. end of story.

[a10]

Hello, have used it on my forum since the mod's release, on slightly modified curve, maybe there are factors I am not aware of but so far all working well, passed the google tests, & members happy with it.

[Gwenwyfar]

As for "more or less responsive". Yes...   because 2.0 Curve was built with tables, and, since 2.0.x is fully stable, a completely re-written theme will not be released with it. That is what 2.1 is for.

I haven't seen the actual theme we have, but you can still make it fully "responsive" without changing the html

You can make tables display as blocks. Though, for the calendar its still not easily doable, it needs to stay like a table; but you can make the rest scale down completely.

[Kindred]

Forty two...   No, the curve theme can not be made fully responsive without compketely redesigning it. Period. We looked.  We made the edits necesarry to pass Google's tests... That is all that is needed for the moment.   If someone wants to build a whole new theme from the ground up, basically replacing 90% of the template files, then they can go for it.

I'm the mean time, we have something that works,moor a google perspective and a dispkay perspective...   And we are working on the fully responsive theme in 2.1

[Gwenwyfar]

Hm, no, it can because mine is. Down to 240px due to some users having something that small. I did not modify anything in the basic templates besides some custom stuff of my own (like adding a sidebar, and other things like that).

Topic and messageindex... Still need to add icons for some buttons but most of the users use it on mobile without an issue. And that's default curve template. Don't mind minor issues, I didn't have time to complete it 100%.

[Kindred]

I didn't say that it would not WORK...  I said that it would not be fully responsive...  And while, yes, you can shrink it down like that, that is different from being fully responsive.

[Gwenwyfar]

So what exactly do you have in mind for "fully responsive"? I did not change font size for mobile, and some icons are actually larger in it, that's default for the whole forum.

Also, it looks like that because that's what I wanted it to... Minifying everything and hiding all buttons and info is not exactly my idea of responsive. You could still hide poster info, make larger buttons, position them elsewhere, simplify everything more or whatever you want without changing anything or very little from the templates. The tables there are the least of the problems.

I get not wanting to go through the trouble of doing it when a new version is just about to go out, not much point in doing so and I'm not saying you should do that. But saying it can't be done is just misleading.

[Kindred]

That's my point...  "Fully responsive" would - to start with
Adjust the font size properly
Allow the reorganization of content based on screen size - not just collapse inward.
Change text to icons
And several other things...

If you have done some modifications beyond the responsive mod, and have it working like you want, then good for you.

[Gwenwyfar]

Font size is controlled by the css, not the templates. I made it that way because that's how I wanted it to be, not because it "can't be done another way without changing the templates".

Readjusting content will still be within the bounds of what is already there and can be done without problems, too. I collapsed it because though the info should be there, I did not want to have to keep scrolling down to see it, and it should look similar to the desktop version It looks much better a little larger, that's extremely small, many responsive sites out there won't go under 320px and I have only one user in need of that size.

Text to icons is another extremely easy to make which does not require any template modifications... Which I agree is missing, but I did not have time to do it yet.

Yes, but it means it can be done. If it won't, that's another story.

Edit: Just took a look on smf 2.1 "responsiveness", and some parts break at 240px. Also, just hiding everything is easy, you don't need to change the templates for that... Doing a copy of the 2.1 theme in 2.0 would be even easier than doing what I did.

[Kindred]

Would you please stop arguing with me?

The curve theme can not be made fully responsive Eliot totally redesigning it. Period.
If you want to prove me wrong then go ahead and do it. I still maintain that it can't be done nearly as simply as you are suggesting.

The curve2 theme used for 2.1 could be back ported, but it would essentially be totally redoing it and it's not worth the work for our team. But Anyone else who wants to is free to do so...
As for any issues with the 2.1 curve2 theme, report them on github.... I have not seen the issue that you indicate.

[Antes]

Because Curve2 not designed for very low phones. We took 480p as base. Reason if you ask, because Curve2 is powered with HTML5/CSS3 means it needs browser with that capabilities otherwise its gonna look broken/bad. As another assumption 240px width screens are powered with stock browsers (or Opera Mini) has no HTML5 capabilities. Pretty much time wasting on testing things, considering I have limited devices and mostly doing changes via FF-Responsive Mode.

I don't like hiding things a lot, but its needed for UX, surely we can fit elements for sake of UI but will it improve UX? That's the question I asked myself before starting coding it. 2.1 still in beta progress, it'll change based on feedback from users, and I'm planning to add more elements back, just trying to find right way