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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2018, 10:15:00 AM »
SMF 2.1 is already working on RC, which means it is feature frozen.

if there is a recurrent event feature, it would have to be added as a mod
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2018, 08:13:58 AM »
Thanks for listening  :)

Quite right.

Well then... as a mod then!
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2018, 09:52:24 AM »
I'm definitely interested in this. I was creating an event and discovered that there are no recurring option. I'll keep eye out on this.

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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2018, 04:25:32 AM »
One more vote here for this feature.
I know it's kinda hard to do... but come on guys, it seems that people need it and you developed harder things to solve  ;)

Chris did it for v1.1 and Keyrocks managed to get a based version for v2.0.2
so it is not imposible, right?  :D

Any advance for 2.0.15?

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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2018, 06:00:27 AM »
No one is saying it is hard or not (though, honestly, I can’t think of anything that is legitimately more difficult to build in 2.1 than this, despite apparent assertions about how easy it is, to do it properly is not easy)

The assertion is that the core team does not feel it is appropriate for the core software. Difficulty or time is not particularly relevant in that discussion.
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2018, 11:40:58 PM »
Well true... the only relevant  in this discussion is: some people need it. That's why this topic exist. Right?

Nobody care if official or not, if as part of the core, mod or whatever (that's irrelevant for users)... some people who posted (like me) and others that never did has been waiting for a functionality that allows to add recurring events to the calendar like for example all the monday and thursday "theory day", on tue and wed "practice day" and friday custom event. And the users will check the calendar when they want to know that. And sometimes the days must be changed. Ik it's a stupid example but valid enough to show you the needing. The use could be more difficult but the fact is that functionality really helps.

If I knew how to develop proper mods I would be glad to do it, but the structure of smf is not easy to understand for me. I really need to understand many things of this system. I tried to do something but it was a mess  :P anyway I will keep trying.

It's a pity that Keyrocks has not published his work. Otherwise this topic would be solved.

Trying to adapt the version of Chris Curran I found some functions and cod that don't exist in SMF 2.0.x and I don't know where to put that code or how to replace it. Any help will be greatly appreciated  :)

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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2018, 02:04:10 AM »
No, that really isn’t the debate here. By that logic of some people need it, SMF should have every function and mods shouldn’t exist.

The bottom line is that the calendar is not actually that heavily used and that for the time required to build the function, there are better things the core team can do instead.

The fact that no one has stepped up since suggests that no one with the skills is particularly interested in it, such that it isn’t as big a deal as a whole as some make out. Though I appreciate this is a function you need, it does not follow that everyone needs it.
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2018, 06:32:06 AM »
This board is specifically for feature requests to the core software. If you want to ask for a mod you should do so in the mod requests board. As Arantor said, just because someone might use a feature, does not mean it should (or will) be in core.
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2018, 08:35:29 AM »
This board is specifically for feature requests to the core software. If you want to ask for a mod you should do so in the mod requests board. As Arantor said, just because someone might use a feature, does not mean it should (or will) be in core.

I did just that - by stating what you see in Reply #21, why this thread then has not been moved is beyond my knowledge.
All I can see is a somewhat buerocratic discussion to avoid actually doing it.

Other users prove this my point right. They have the same feeling: If you bring up an idea, it is first LENGTHILY discussed for what it can be any good, then the discussion is about that it might be misplaced (instead of simply moving it to the appropriate location to be discussed) and then comes always and the same guy toning it down.

I am done requesting anything. It's either irrelevant or the 2.1 is feature-locked or you get 'it's done when it's done' - despite even personal attacks by always and the same guy.

I as well as the other SMF-fans do not deserve that.
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2018, 08:57:34 AM »
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I did just that - by stating what you see in Reply #21, why this thread then has not been moved is beyond my knowledge.
You're right, maybe it should have been moved there instead.

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All I can see is a somewhat buerocratic discussion to avoid actually doing it.

Other users prove this my point right. They have the same feeling: If you bring up an idea, it is first LENGTHILY discussed for what it can be any good, then the discussion is about that it might be misplaced (instead of simply moving it to the appropriate location to be discussed) and then comes always and the same guy toning it down.

I am done requesting anything. It's either irrelevant or the 2.1 is feature-locked or you get 'it's done when it's done' - despite even personal attacks by always and the same guy.

I as well as the other SMF-fans do not deserve that.
Everyone here is giving their own free time to develop both SMF as well as mods and themes. It is simply not possible with the people available to develop everything (even if it is a good idea). So yes, new ideas will always be discussed because people contributing need to choose what they will invest their time on. If it's seen that it isn't of any benefit or it requires too much time for little benefit, then you're going to have a hard time finding someone to do it.

If you absolutely want something done you can always pay someone to do it (or even have multiple people pay for it as a shared effort to a common goal).
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2018, 01:21:44 PM »
I did just that - by stating what you see in Reply #21, why this thread then has not been moved is beyond my knowledge.
All I can see is a somewhat buerocratic discussion to avoid actually doing it.

If you want to request that a topic be moved, you need to use the report to moderator button and ask that way.

Your reply (post number 21) didn't actually fulfil the criteria that Gwenwyfar outlined.  To fulfil the criteria, someone needs to start a new topic in the Mod Requests board and not just reply here.  You're welcome to start a new topic there to do just that if you wish to.

Leaving this topic in this board serves the purpose of showing the community that it has been declined as a core feature, thus preventing duplication of this topic in the near future.

Finally, regarding issues about personal attacks, none have been made in this topic.  If you ever have any concerns about the content of a post, however, please raise such concerns via the report to moderator button, rather than within the topic itself.

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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2018, 07:02:29 PM »
Guys, fist of all sorry for the misplaced post, the intention is not ask only to the core developers, also to the rest of the community. The idea is always to improve SMF. I just continued an existing topic because if I open a new one the moderators will love to jump over me sayin "use the search!!!"  ;D always happen in most of forums. 

Second, SMiFFER has a point and you will never see it because the hostility is more important.

It seems that the aggressiveness and discouraging of users is #1st attitude in forums. I understand that you want the posts ordered and consider this was an offtopic... but the topic didn't change. It's the same: repeating events. Sorry for the people "bothering" with this such of things that u don't care bc u have more important things to do. Instead of being nice and help the users you discourage them when they want to help (like me... I was doing the mod and wanted to post it for the community) but tbh... why to do that? You said that this is important only for me, ok. You also said that people can't ask anything because the developers will not add every thing the people ask (of course not, but let us talk about that, don't be so hostile!) Being said that, sorry for posting and bothering trying you make understand that there are needings. I will never talk again here for any new feature.

Who wants to understand my point, welcome. Thanks anyway for helping.

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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2018, 07:24:19 PM »
I think that both you and smiffer missed the point.

The feature was requested.
The feature was discussed.
It was rejected as a core feature (because despite the importance to you, it is not actually a critical feature to most -- hell we have discussed removing the calendar completely from future versions) and it was suggested that someone open a mod request

there was no aggression, no hostility, and no personal attacks...
there was no bother in the original request.... and no need to make us understand anything. We understand. We just disagree on the "criticality" of the feature.


And no...  when asked to create a mod request from a rejected feature request - no one is goingt o get yelled at by the moderators.
Why must everyone take a rejection of a request as a personal attack?   We just said "No, it won't be a feature". We never said "don't ever ask for anything again....   
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Re: Recurring Events for SMF Calendar
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2018, 06:01:27 AM »
rcolaneri: I think I understand what you mean, and this has already been brought up in some team discussions before.

But if you don't mind another "wrong place to be saying this", you're welcome to post any suggestions or constructive criticism in the Site Comments, Issues and Concerns board :)

And suggestions and ideas are not a bother ;)
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