Notifications are turned off by default for new registered users

[Shkic]

Hi there.

I'm using Beta 2 and didn't get one thing.

Even if in my administration panel:

index.php?action=admin;area=featuresettings;sa=alerts

I turn ON notifications for users:

This page allows you to set the default notification options for users.

newly registered users still have ALL notifications disabled.

How is that possible? Is this a bug or what?

I had upgraded SMF from 2.0. Also earlier in 2.0 I had alerts by SMFpacks.com - maybe this is a reason?

Also maybe someone can tell me how I can turn ON notifications for all already registered users manually?

[Arantor]

Using an 18 month old version of SMF might not help here...

[Shkic]

Using an 18 month old version of SMF might not help here...

So what is your proposal? Update to Beta 3 even if there's no public release?

[Arantor]

That's the thing, if you're going to run a pre-release version on your site, understand what you're getting into and get yourself out of it.

Whatever issue you have is almost certainly fixed by now.

[Shkic]

That's the thing, if you're going to run a pre-release version on your site, understand what you're getting into and get yourself out of it.

Whatever issue you have is almost certainly fixed by now.

Thanks Arantor. I will try to take a look for Beta 3.

[Illori]

read http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=530252.msg3816577#msg3816577

[Shkic]

Thanks Illori, but why I can't find upgrade.php file in github version? Or I just need to rewrite files with new ones?

[Arantor]

It's in the other/ folder.

[Shkic]

Thank you

[Shkic]

Updated to newest Beta 3 version and bug still there.  Even if I turn ON alerts for users in admin panel, new registered users have disabled all alerts in their profile.

[Arantor]

Works for me on today's beta 3.

I wonder if it's a data change that the upgrade doesn't cover.

[Shkic]

Very strange ;/

[Shkic]

When new user registering, in

smf_user_alerts_prefs DB

adding only one:

2879 announcements 0

(2879 is id_member, announcements is alert_pref and 0 is alert_value).

No data adding such like topic_notify, pm_notify, msg_quote etc.

[Arantor]

It's only supposed to add new rows to that table if the user decides they want to change from the forum defaults. I forgot how or where the defaults are stored, but it was designed to not add a ton of rows every user unless it needed to.

Try checking if the id_member is 0.

[Shkic]

It's only supposed to add new rows to that table if the user decides they want to change from the forum defaults. I forgot how or where the defaults are stored, but it was designed to not add a ton of rows every user unless it needed to.

Oh, I thought there must be all that rows for new users.

Try checking if the id_member is 0.

You mean try to check in smf_user_alerts_prefs is there a id_member with 0? Yep, he is there with all data.

If I change default mention notification to disable:

0 msg_mention 0

if to enable

0 msg_mention 1

Everything seems fine, but still this options not working for new users.

[Arantor]

If you change just msg_mention, that only affects the default for whether you get an alert if someone mentions you in a message, not any of the others - and if you already saved it for yourself, it won't spontaneously change just for you because you already saved values for you.

At least, that's how it was when I first wrote this in 2014...

[Shkic]

If you change just msg_mention, that only affects the default for whether you get an alert if someone mentions you in a message, not any of the others - and if you already saved it for yourself, it won't spontaneously change just for you because you already saved values for you.

I understand that.

I just can't get why new registered users do not have enabled alerts by default when I enable it in admin panel. It's very strange.

id_member 0 belongs to?

[Arantor]

id_member 0 is the list of defaults, that's the point. They apply to everyone - and then user's own defaults are applied on top.

What are all the rows where id_member = 0 ?

[Shkic]

id_member 0 is the list of defaults, that's the point. They apply to everyone - and then user's own defaults are applied on top.

What are all the rows where id_member = 0 ?

So by logic everything must work fine, but somehow, it's not working.

[Arantor]

OK, so what notifications do you expect to be actually going to newly registered users? How are you verifying they are not getting these?