SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released

[GigaWatt]

RC - theoretically stable for production use, but still in a work in progress.

RC is short for Release Candidate. It means "we hope the product is ready for a Final releases, but we're not really sure yet, there might still be a few small bugs, so basically, it's more or less safe to use, but with caution"... also, it's still not advisable to use a RC on anything that you've invested in.

[Arantor]

I say again: look at 2.0

Specifically compare 2.0 RC1 to 2.0.0, or even 2.0 RC1 to 2.0 RC2.

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Yes, well. I did say ideally. 2.0 RC was not an ideal case really.

[landyvlad]

Hopefully the lessons from 2.0 will mean we won't see/required RC1, RC2, RC3 etc

I know everyone is looking forward to 2.1 Final - hopefully that won't be TOO far off, but only time will tell.

[Antes]

All I'll say is look at what happened with 2.0.

A huge management mistake ?

[Arantor]

No, the fact that Curve wasn't ready for RC1, came out in RC2, overhauled significantly in RC3. Or the hasty introduction of protected groups in RC4. Or the release of RC5 to reassure some of the... political agitants that SMF hadn't backed itself into a corner.

[pocttopus]

I know only one thing, that everyone is eagerly awaiting the official stable version.
Please make it faster... 

[Veee]

I am also super excited for SMF 2.1 to come out, but remember... Good things take time.

[SMiFFER]

Is everybody happily wasting time fighting about words again?

I remember I posted a thread named "congratulations SMF on the 7th birthday of SMF 2.0 Gold" and it was deleted right away. What I wanted to draw the attention to was this:

Is it not possible for some here to stick to the subject and/or the work?

FACT is: 2.0 GOLD is 7 years old and 2.1 is long overdue
FACT is: the team has changed and learned from its mismanagement
FACT is: suggestions are worthless because everything is swept off the table with "it's feature-locked"

I am looking forward to seeing a release finally coming, so all these nervecutting word-wars about nothing can
finally take their end and features and improvements can be discussed again.

Thumbs up, team!

[Arantor]

FACT is: 2.0 GOLD is 7 years old and 2.1 is long overdue

Correct. It was never meant to be a big release was already overdue 5 years ago when I tried to re-rail it, though I consciously added new features to it then because a release that no-one cared about because it had nothing compelling in it was worse than no release at all. But even I never expected it to take another 5 years.

FACT is: the team has changed and learned from its mismanagement

You say this with such certainty.

FACT is: suggestions are worthless because everything is swept off the table with "it's feature-locked"

Most suggestions are not worthless because of feature lock. Most suggestions aren't worth much because they're not really suitable for a generic piece of software - many of them would be very suitable if building a gaming forum or a roleplay forum or some other specific kind of forum, but not a general purpose forum.

so all these nervecutting word-wars about nothing can finally take their end

They're not about nothing. They're just about things you don't care about - that doesn't mean others don't care.

[Douglas]

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" -- Jean-Baptiste Alphonse Karr

This is more directed to the "Jr. Member" that thinks they know everything. You don't.

"This has been a rare sighting of the Emergency Bear Activation program. Had this been a test, your chances of survival would be greatly increased."

// Back to the shadows...

[Arantor]

Hey Douglas, long time no see.

[SilverKnight]

SMF is still one of my favorite forum systems, sadly reddit is attacking the personal community structure as new users of the internet don't understand anything outside of it.

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Hi Doug!

[u3games]

NICE!! 

[Mick.]

Alright, just upgraded my dev-site to 2.1. Let's see what's under the hood shall we? 

[Kindred]

you used the github version, right?
The download version of beta 3 is WAY out of date at this point.

[Mick.]

you used the github version, right?
The download version of beta 3 is WAY out of date at this point.

Oh i didnt see you post... ol' boy just point it out your post thank you.

[406Northlane]

Question from a SMF newbie...

Safe to assume that 'eventually', 2.1 will be available via package manager?

I'm on 2.0.15 but like I said... newbie with this particular forum software. Not sure if I'm ready to tackle a manual install.

Thanks in advance.

[Kindred]

no.

2.1 will be a major release...   this means you must use the upgrade archive/process, not the patch process.
You will never be able to upgrade from a 2.0.x release to a 2.1.x release by using the package manager