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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2018, 07:05:47 PM »
We don't have enough developers to move it along faster, plain and simple. Maybe the situation was different back then (I wasn't around for that)

Maybe if more people tried to help instead of just complaining it would be already finished. Remember this is an open source project and no one is paid to work on it.
I totally agree with you and I regret we lack of more devs to help :'(

I think that users who visit this site are just concern that nothing is going on with 2.1 progress. People just like reading news rather than visiting GIT and check milestone or bug tracker. In past we had more SMF 2.0 WIP released than now.
Mine point is that maybe would be better to post a news from time to time about the progress (even when no new beta/rc are released) rather than nothing.

Personally as a viewer of GH on a daily basis, I think the progress has been going very good recently.
That's true, fingers crossed to keep with this work.

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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2018, 08:45:33 PM »
Need a bigger hammer :P
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #162 on: October 21, 2018, 08:57:13 PM »
Lol

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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #163 on: October 23, 2018, 05:37:27 AM »
A saying in Germany says:
Good things take time :)

2.1 is on the right track.




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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #164 on: October 23, 2018, 10:46:06 AM »
They should also check this link. It looks real good I think:

https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones

I don't get that, RC1 93% complete and RC2 32% complete

So two release candidates are being worked on at the same time?  :o

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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #165 on: October 23, 2018, 10:47:26 AM »
No, just some issues and stuff are tagged for RC1 while some others are tagged for RC2. RC1 tagged issues must be solved for RC1 release, and RC2 ones dont.
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #166 on: October 23, 2018, 12:13:41 PM »

I think that users who visit this site are just concern that nothing is going on with 2.1 progress. People just like reading news rather than visiting GIT and check milestone or bug tracker. In past we had more SMF 2.0 WIP released than now.
Mine point is that maybe would be better to post a news from time to time about the progress (even when no new beta/rc are released) rather than nothing.
Maybe. Though if that is done it would likely go into dev blog rather than this news section.

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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #167 on: October 23, 2018, 05:21:00 PM »
They should also check this link. It looks real good I think:

https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones

I don't get that, RC1 93% complete and RC2 32% complete

So two release candidates are being worked on at the same time?  :o

technically, yes....   dozens of versions may be worked on "at the same time"
Issues get tagged to a version for release. Those issues MAY get addressed before the release even officially starts work.... or an issue that was addressed for RC1 may have been bumped out to RC2 - and so forth.

Realistically, don't worry about anything except the next release - and even then, the stats are more fluid than fixed, given that issues can be pushed out ot brought in, depending on severity, etc.
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #168 on: October 23, 2018, 06:04:08 PM »
Fluid is right. I have seen RC1 go from 95% complete to 83% complete in the blink of an eye. All who work on it are working hard to get it out. One fix might cause two bugs and they have to be fixed and so on. It's frustrating sometimes, lol.

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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #169 on: October 23, 2018, 07:56:37 PM »
It's frustrating sometimes, lol.

Coding usually is :P... considering it's consisted of 5% of the time actually coding, 95% fixing bugs, LOL :D.
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #170 on: October 24, 2018, 12:01:47 AM »
and code just gets more annoying when you know several languages. Can't mix PHP and C#, for example.
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #171 on: October 24, 2018, 12:11:13 PM »
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #172 on: October 24, 2018, 12:23:03 PM »
That's a very nice pic. Gotta love it. :)

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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #173 on: October 24, 2018, 10:23:42 PM »
For better or worse, in Github, random contributors submit whatever they want to, whenever they want to.  Most get bent out of shape when their prs aren't mmediately tested and merged by the devs.

Which uses up dev time.   A lot of it.  (And who really wants to spend days and weeks testing someone else's stuff?)

But they don't want to discourage good contributions. 

So...   

You prioritize.  It's a basic, minimalist, workable, self defense mechanism. 

And submissions come in all over the map.

I welcome the recent focus on specifying RCs.  It sets priorities and expectations.  RC2 is a polite way of saying well look at your contribution.  Later.

It's a good thing.
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #174 on: October 26, 2018, 10:11:13 AM »
They should also check this link. It looks real good I think:

https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones

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So true!
« Reply #175 on: October 26, 2018, 10:16:33 AM »
Just in the very first topic on git hub that I open
(https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/issues/4930)
I read this:

quote:
"team should inform community better"

That hits the nail on the head.
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #176 on: October 26, 2018, 10:20:57 AM »
Different people, different opinions.
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #177 on: October 26, 2018, 10:27:04 AM »
Not sure that was the intention of the comment, but either way, I agree. The problem is we just don't have anyone focused on this because everyone is busy doing other things.

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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #178 on: October 29, 2018, 01:44:35 AM »
Loving seeing the progress y'all are making. Wish I had the programming aptitude to help out, but alas 'tis not to be.

Keep up the good work!
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Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released
« Reply #179 on: October 29, 2018, 04:18:06 AM »
There are still outdated 2.1 Beta 3 available for download, although they are outdated. Also the language packs for it. The current beta archives of Github should be offered, so that you can also test at the current state. Very often there were error messages. It turned out then sometime that it was an outdated Beta3 archive. This should also be changed. The few know that on Github already Beta4 is active. Also applies to the outdated language packs that are still recommended => https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=562247.0