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What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« on: June 25, 2018, 10:07:19 PM »
This is my list of mods, along with my comments as to whether I think the functionality is included.

I'd be happy for any corrections.  When I get 2.1 up and running in due course I want as few mods as possible, while still accomplishing the look/feel/functionality I want.   

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@mention members - default inclusion in 2.1
Like Posts - default inclusion in 2.1
Responsive Curve - Curve + this mod = replaced by Curve2

Automatic Attachment Rotation (and Resize) - ?

Copyright and Footer Links  - ?

"httpBL" and "Stop Spammer" - I don't think that there is built in spam protection of this type in 2.1, but happy to be corrected?

Image Processing Memory Limit - Is this included, or even required in 2.1 ?

Show JDALLAUI in Post and PM - Does SMF2.1 optionally display join date etc like this, or is mod still required?

Sortable Packages (and Installed Time) - is this 'filter' included in 2.1 package manager at all?

Topics Created And Participated In - does 2.1 display these without the need for a mod?

Yet Another YouTube BBCode Tag - does 2.1 automatically parse YT links to embed the video?


And these I am confident are NOT included in SMF2.1, other than by mod.
(mods either currently compatible or likely to be updated post 2.1RC)

SMF Post Prefix
Social Login
Country Flags
Google Member Map
SMF Gallery Pro
SMF Links
Downloads System
Tapatalk SMF
TinyPortal - obviously not included in 2.1, but latest version is compatible.


Please note that I am not asking whether particular mods are going to be updated etc here. I am simply trying to get my head around what SMF 2.1 can and can't do by default (moreso than what I have been able to figure out from the 'specs' posts).

Thanks for any input people are able to provide.

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2018, 02:05:53 AM »
Sortable Packages should be core now.
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2018, 05:11:46 AM »
install SMF 2.1 in a test setup and play with it, then you will get a feel for what has to offer and what mods you may need in the future. a lot of what you want which are mods, are still mods needed for you in SMF 2.1.

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2018, 06:46:41 AM »
"httpBL" and "Stop Spammer" - I don't think that there is built in spam protection of this type in 2.1, but happy to be corrected?

If bots are the only thing that worries you, use this approach, trust me, you'll never have to delete another bot again ;). Used it for months now, not one bot registered, dropped the default captcha, down to one question ;).

Yet Another YouTube BBCode Tag - does 2.1 automatically parse YT links to embed the video?

Yes, this is a default feature now, but only for YouTube videos.

So, as Illori stated, yes, you're going to require most of the mods you already have installed.
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 09:17:39 AM »
Thank you all for the feedback and tips.

I have a 2.1 test forum just trying to get it to upgrade to beta4...
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2018, 09:54:57 AM »
Download System already works in 2.1.

I've abandoned Tapatalk once Responsive Curve was installed on 2.0.
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2018, 09:57:54 PM »
Thanks Shawn.  Even after I had the responsive curve installed, I was still getting requests from some members for tapatalk.   I suspect this is mostly down to what they are used to, and being a new forum I didn't want to put people off.

I may well ditch it (at least temporarily) when I upgrade to 2.1 and see what happens...  :D 
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2018, 11:04:46 PM »
What bugs me is that the later versions of Tapatalk hijack your security...  I don't want anybody near that code.  I also have had issues where Tapatalk aggressively crawled my site - a known issue with them. 

Over the years, I have had 2 or 3 users (out of ~25K) express interest in upgrading Tapatalk, but I've simply told them no.   
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2018, 11:23:35 PM »
I know near nothing about tapatalk itself.  Any chance of pointing me to any link or discussion with these issues so I can make my membership aware of the problems,  as a precursor to removal?
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2018, 11:54:01 PM »
I forgot about Tapatalk ages ago, when I realized it actually replaced parts of the stock source code completely with it's own files to work around intentional limitations in SMF. That was all I needed to know. I don't know if it still works like that, but I wouldn't trust Tapatalk with access to my coffee, let alone my server...
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2018, 12:39:11 AM »
After using it for about a year I removed it: crappy updates, major layout updates without any notice.
When they tried to hijack the user base providing chat functionality outside my forum I felt is enough .
Left it behind and never looked back. A responsive theme is way better!

I would strongly advice against the use of Tapatalk!
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2018, 12:45:44 AM »
Thanks all.
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2018, 12:57:41 PM »

TinyPortal - obviously not included in 2.1, but latest version is compatible.


Not the case, but the next version TP 1.5.1 will have basic support for SMF 2.1 We're just testing it atm.  ;)

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2018, 01:32:47 PM »
testing for release just in time for us to completely rewrite the interface and reorder the database, right?!

(j/k)
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2018, 01:35:23 PM »
You're only reordering the database, not normalising parts of it and denormalising others? Maybe get on that before the next release! ;D (j/k)
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2018, 01:51:57 PM »
Sounds like fun, perhaps we should. Just for fun.

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2018, 02:34:30 PM »

Yet Another YouTube BBCode Tag - does 2.1 automatically parse YT links to embed the video?

Yes, this is a default feature now, but only for YouTube videos.

Hi, it was added in 2.1 beta 4?
With the beta 3 only the link is displayed.

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2018, 02:36:20 PM »

TinyPortal - obviously not included in 2.1, but latest version is compatible.


Not the case, but the next version TP 1.5.1 will have basic support for SMF 2.1 We're just testing it atm.  ;)

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2018, 03:39:00 PM »
Hobnobs.  ;)

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2018, 05:01:27 PM »
Hi, it was added in 2.1 beta 4?
With the beta 3 only the link is displayed.

Hmmm... didn't know that. Did the YouTube button exist in Beta 3?
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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2018, 05:05:36 PM »
Hi, it was added in 2.1 beta 4?
With the beta 3 only the link is displayed.

Hmmm... didn't know that. Did the YouTube button exist in Beta 3?

YouTube embed added in latest builds, its a plugin of SCEditor.


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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2018, 08:14:49 PM »
Thanks for the clarification :)

Maybe I should stop working on SP and give my full focus to TP... Do you guys have cookies ?

Yes, you should :)

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2018, 02:47:10 PM »
Hi, it was added in 2.1 beta 4?
With the beta 3 only the link is displayed.

Hmmm... didn't know that. Did the YouTube button exist in Beta 3?

YouTube embed added in latest builds, its a plugin of SCEditor.
But it is removed again with Pull Request "Sceditor update #4771". There is a problem with other tags. Maybe someone can find a way to fix this.

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Sesquipedalian commented 4 days ago    Since this PR doesn't actually fix #4763, and I've determined that the issue is with SCEditor's AutoYouTube plugin, I'm simply going to disable and remove the AutoYouTube plugin, file a bug report over on the SCEditor repo, and call it a day. If and when Sam Clarke rewrites the AutoYouTube plugin, someone can release a mod to add the AutoYouTube plugin.

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Re: What's 'standard' in 2.1 from these mods?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2018, 05:11:54 PM »
 :) YouTube function apparently remains

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Tested this PR.  Don't see any issues with the Sceditor.  Youtube bbc works fine still.  Auto youtube is taken out as expected.