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SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« on: April 08, 2019, 01:09:28 AM »
Everything else being the same...


It seems to me that I could install SMF in one database and Coppermine in another, then bridge them.


Or I could install SMF in one database and then install Coppermine in the same database, and finally bridge them.


What are the pros and cons of each approach?


Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this...

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2019, 02:18:47 AM »
As long as the prefixes are different, it’ll be fine.

There aren’t really any major differences between the two options other than convenience and tidiness, though second DB is slightly more annoying to set up and can complicate setting up the bridge, though protects you slightly better against badly written addons that don’t use prefixes correctly.

I’d generally suggest everyone in one DB because in my experience the extra setup isn’t worth the effort.
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2019, 01:12:44 PM »
I had a wordpress/smf bridged site 6 years ago. The bridge worked but it had some drawbacks. Mainly logging in and out and existing members.

If I installed coppermine and bridged will it identify existing members when they login? And will you be able to login and log out of either SMF or Coppermine?

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2019, 01:39:30 PM »
I honestly don't remember how the Coppermine bridge behaves, mostly because I never used it... in the end I just built my own integrated gallery for SMF. I am currently getting that ready for 2.1 RC2 btw.
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2019, 01:42:47 PM »

If I installed coppermine and bridged will it identify existing members when they login? And will you be able to login and log out of either SMF or Coppermine?

https://coppermine-gallery.net/docs/curr/en/bridging.htm

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 01:43:39 PM »
I am currently running a Coppermine gallery bridged with 2.0.15 - Can't remember how exactly, but Coppermine reads user data and permissions from SMF directly, and uses that data to identify users logged on to the forum ( The bridge completely disables the Coppermine's built in registration features )
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2019, 01:48:07 PM »

I am currently running a Coppermine gallery bridged with 2.0.15


So am I.

Both SMF and Coppermine sharing the same database.  And bridged. https://cameracraniums.com/forum/

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2019, 01:54:02 PM »
https://cameracraniums.com/forum/
Cool, you've got that integrated nicely - I was all too lazy to try and fine tune SMF and Coppermine to work together that well. :P
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2019, 02:40:56 PM »
https://cameracraniums.com/forum/
Cool, you've got that integrated nicely - I was all too lazy to try and fine tune SMF and Coppermine to work together that well. :P

Well I wouldn't say integrated as such. Coppermine is using its default theme which just happens to be a SMF curve lookalike.  And a few bits of code in some portal blocks to show random images and latest images, image of the week etc on home page.   I didn't go too mad as there's only about ten members using it. lol..

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2019, 02:53:33 PM »
https://cameracraniums.com/forum/
Cool, you've got that integrated nicely - I was all too lazy to try and fine tune SMF and Coppermine to work together that well. :P

Well I wouldn't say integrated as such. Coppermine is using its default theme which just happens to be a SMF curve lookalike.  And a few bits of code in some portal blocks to show random images and latest images, image of the week etc on home page.   I didn't go too mad as there's only about ten members using it. lol..

Has anybody tried embedding youtube videos? That's my main interest. I'll check out your site later on my phone too. Wondering if the Coppermine part is responsive.

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2019, 03:14:16 PM »
You don't need Coppermine for Youtube, and I wouldn't suggest Coppermine if that's your main concern.
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2019, 06:31:26 PM »
You don't need Coppermine for Youtube, and I wouldn't suggest Coppermine if that's your main concern.

Hi Aleksi, I want to do a video portal but there aren't any except for SMFHacks which isn't responsive. Why would you say not to use Coppermine? No good?

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2019, 07:06:47 PM »
You don't need Coppermine for Youtube, and I wouldn't suggest Coppermine if that's your main concern.

Hi Aleksi, I want to do a video portal but there aren't any except for SMFHacks which isn't responsive. Why would you say not to use Coppermine? No good?

Unless our dev team changed it (Id have to check) in the last version, I'm pretty sure you can't embed videos in Coppermine without installing a plugin, even then I'm not sure it's that straight forward.

Arantor's  Levgal mod does let you do this easily though.  Only issue would be the responsive stuff.

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2019, 07:08:35 PM »
You don't need Coppermine for Youtube, and I wouldn't suggest Coppermine if that's your main concern.

Hi Aleksi, I want to do a video portal but there aren't any except for SMFHacks which isn't responsive. Why would you say not to use Coppermine? No good?

Unless our dev team changed it (Id have to check) in the last version, I'm pretty sure you can't embed videos in Coppermine without installing a plugin, even then I'm not sure it's that straight forward.

Arantor's  Levgal mod does let you do this easily though.  Only issue would be the responsive stuff.

Your dev team manages Coppermine Mick?

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2019, 07:22:29 PM »
You don't need Coppermine for Youtube, and I wouldn't suggest Coppermine if that's your main concern.

Hi Aleksi, I want to do a video portal but there aren't any except for SMFHacks which isn't responsive. Why would you say not to use Coppermine? No good?

Unless our dev team changed it (Id have to check) in the last version, I'm pretty sure you can't embed videos in Coppermine without installing a plugin, even then I'm not sure it's that straight forward.

Arantor's  Levgal mod does let you do this easily though.  Only issue would be the responsive stuff.

Your dev team manages Coppermine Mick?

Not my Dev team.  I'm just one of the Coppermine team admins.  ;)

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2019, 11:06:15 PM »
I mean Coppermine is a bit too robust solution just to embed contents from 3rd party sites in my opinion.
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2019, 07:54:20 AM »
I mean Coppermine is a bit too robust solution just to embed contents from 3rd party sites in my opinion.

I agree. However, my objective is to have the video hot linked to view on my site in a clean, organized and efficient way, I don't want to send them away. I know I can make posts in a forum but I'd like my guests and members to have an open view selecting a category and seeing everything in front of them like youtube where they can see similar videos and other vid categories right in front of them without having to click topics.

But like Youtube I need it to be responsive. That's why I asked if the script is responsive.

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2019, 10:28:58 AM »
Curious about something, is coppermine a fork of smf?

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2019, 10:33:50 AM »
No, it's its own package, they just decided to make their default theme based off Curve with SMF's permission.
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2019, 10:41:34 AM »

I am currently running a Coppermine gallery bridged with 2.0.15


So am I.

Both SMF and Coppermine sharing the same database.  And bridged. https://cameracraniums.com/forum/

Checked it out. Everything is responsive up to clicking on an image on my phone. When I click on one it doesn't scale. Everything else though seems to be responsive like the index, categories etc.

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2019, 11:14:20 AM »
No, it's its own package, they just decided to make their default theme based off Curve with SMF's permission.

That's bloody strange

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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2019, 11:29:49 AM »
No argument from me on that.
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Re: SMF and Coppermine - how many databases?
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2019, 12:19:19 PM »
No, it's its own package, they just decided to make their default theme based off Curve with SMF's permission.

That's bloody strange

I guess because a few of the team use SMF, plus we use it on the support site as well.  I'll have a poke around and see if I can find the actual reason though when I get a minute.  ;)